C36 Merged thread, everything goes here

Who/where/why will be the first victim ?


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Alabama Blaze

Bill C-36 has too many contradictory issues. What will happen to the boards under this law?

It's hard to tell from reading Bill C-36. The term "material benefit"is used to cover 3rd party sites that are selling and advertising services. They use the word "knowingly" advertising for the purpose of selling sexual services.

What do you define as "knowingly"? Does "knowingly" mean, being aware that sexual services are being sold regardless of how it's advertised.
 
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Alabama Blaze

Peace Guy,

Do you think the authorities in Alberta even have the resources to enforce Harper's Law? Edmonton's and Calgary's budgets are spread thin as it is. I can't imagine taxpayers in Alberta are keen on allocating more money for the Police to enforce bill C-36.

I don't think the Harper gave any consideration as to the cost of enforcing this bill.
 

vancity_cowboy

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I can't imagine taxpayers in Alberta are keen on allocating more money for the Police to enforce bill C-36.
alberta is the one place i CAN see taxpayers being behind something bizarre that the cons have dreamed up. it was at the conservative convention in calgary last year that the party expressed it's desire for harper et al to implement the scandinavian model of enforcement asap

sure enough, the scoc gave them the opportunity with the bedford decision within a month, and here we are, a year later, about to become criminals
 
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Alabama Blaze

alberta is the one place i CAN see taxpayers being behind something bizarre that the cons have dreamed up. it was at the conservative convention in calgary last year that the party expressed it's desire for harper et al to implement the scandinavian model of enforcement asap

sure enough, the scoc gave them the opportunity with the bedford decision within a month, and here we are, a year later, about to become criminals
Edmonton will be differnt from Calgary. I don't think anyone is happy with the property taxes increases that are already in place in Edmonton. Most of our new police resources are going to the new arena district. Mayor Ivenson has already put his plan into place with a new licensesing system for MP's and escorts in Edmonton. We'll have to see what the city hall hearing in January yeild as far as any more changes.

Calgary Politicians seem more apt to jumping on the Bill C36 bandwagon.

Edmonton only really cares about keeping the industry/hobby out-of-sight; out-of-mind.

Regardless, this bill will get shot down by the Canadain Supreme Court.
 
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Alabama Blaze

Hate to sound paranoid, but that's just so unnerving. Calgary has been a city I've loved to visit, and not being able to go much at all now that I'm back in the grind of school has been pretty sad for myself, and some wonderful gentlemen I've come to know. Was going to go back after exams finish in December, but now I'm seriously re-thinking my decision. People may be disappointed, but I hope they aren't offended, and that they also think about this bill when elections come up!!! Unfortunately, I feel I have too much to lose to risk going to Alberta (if anyone has advice or suggestions, PM me). Maybe I'll change my mind after more thought. VPD seems much more logical on this matter, and appear to care more about risk-management/actual abuse rather than politics. There are so many wonderful ladies and gentlemen who make this fun world of ours so lovely, and this bill is just a real pain for responsible, respectful individuals in a consensual, and fun situation... Also, frankly, as a proud Canadian, I'm kind of embarrassed we have something like this on the books. Gosh darned it!
Miss Mani,

You may be able to use one of the local MP's as an Incall location for clients in Alberta. Unfortunately you'll have go throught the licensing process in Edmonton. Several touring SP's have used MP's for an incall location. There's also several agencies in Edmoton that are legally licensed to operate under the new laws.

I'm not sure about what's going to happen in Calgary. The policitains and LE in Calgary seem very keen about enforcing C36.
 

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Let's all calm down and suck a dick/pussy....

http://www.straight.com/news/777406...law-wont-change-policing-priorities-vancouver


Canada's new prostitution law won’t change policing priorities in Vancouver
by Carlito Pablo on Nov 26, 2014 at 11:01 am
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Const. Brian Montague says enforcing Canada's new prostitution law is "a last resort" for the Vancouver Police Department.

For the first time in Canada’s history, buying sex will be a criminal offence starting December 6 this year.

That’s when the country’s new prostitution law comes into effect, following the passage of legislation introduced by the federal Conservative government.

But as far as the Vancouver Police Department is concerned, there’s not a whole lot that’s going to change in the way it deals with the sale and purchase of sexual services in the city.

“Our officers will still be guided by the principles and policies and procedures outlined in the sex-work-enforcement guidelines that we have,” Const. Brian Montague told the Straight in a phone interview.

The VPD spokesperson was referring to a set of directives adopted by the police force in January 2013 that states: “Sex work involving consenting adults is not an enforcement priority for the VPD.”

When asked if Vancouver police will be mounting sting operations against buyers of sex, Montague responded: “If you read our policy…I think the best way to put it is enforcement is a last resort for us.”

Montague also noted that the VPD has the same approach toward marijuana laws: the VPD does not place a high investigative and enforcement priority on possession of cannabis as a singular offence.

“We want to make sure that other options are explored, and I think the best way to describe it is the fact that our officers have a great deal of discretion when dealing with a variety of circumstances, whether it’s prostitution laws or drug laws,” Montague said. “Enforcement isn’t necessarily always the most appropriate option.”

However, Montague pointed out that as provided for in the VPD’s guidelines, high priority for intervention are cases involving violence against sex workers, minors, human trafficking, and connection with criminal gangs. Montague said: “At any time that we’re looking at crimes where children are involved, where people are being exploited, obviously…enforcement might be appropriate in those circumstances.”

Business as usual. Use common sense, practice safely within your means, and enjoy!!
 

vancity_cowboy

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Right. I don't know too much about those areas and law enforcement, but am sure glad I'm in Vancouver.
they are all policed by rcmp

stings on street cruisers were actually practiced in burnaby and surrey - raids on massage parlours in richmond

depending on what occurs after dec. 6, it wouldn't surprise me to see a lot of operations moving into the city of vancouver
 
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Alabama Blaze

Should Bedford out Politicians for hiring Escorts

I thought this article was quite interesting. Bedford has seeking feedback from escorts across the country to decide if she should release details about various MP's and members of senate whom have hired escorts in an aim to show how much hypocrisy exists on Parliament hill.

Do you think Bedford should expose the Canadian Politicians that have purchased services from escorts?

http://ww2.nationalpost.com/m/wp/ta...to-prostitutes&pubdate=2014-11-27&t=bill-c-36
 

uncleg

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I thought this article was quite interesting. Bedford has seeking feedback from escorts across the country to decide if she should release details about various MP's and members of senate whom have hired escorts in an aim to show how much hypocrisy exists on Parliament hill.

Do you think Bedford should expose the Canadian Politicians that have purchased services from escorts?

http://ww2.nationalpost.com/m/wp/ta...to-prostitutes&pubdate=2014-11-27&t=bill-c-36

Bin der, done dat........ search for ....susi....
 
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Larry Storch

How it all went down:
http:// openparliament.ca/bills/41-2/C-36/
Didn't think I should hot link it, but maybe that's MY paranoia.
 
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Alabama Blaze

I agree with most of this, except for lately Edmonton has cracked down on license enforcement for Indy girls. Jenna Fransico posted her experience this summer, of the cops coming to her hotel room :/ it's on the baby cow board. But I know there's been more than just her getting harassed, based on feedback from other girls.
What can say about Edmonton Melody, I agree our LE is stickler for getting their licesning registrations and fees. They don't like it when escort by-pass their paperwork. Rather than C-36 I guess our LE is hoping the paperwork will be enough to fustrate some touring SP's.
 

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After reading most of this thread, I'm starting to wonder if many ladies or agencies who are located outside the Vancouver vicinity ( Metro town, Richmond ) etc etc, will now consider moving into Vancouver territory? Seems the V.P.D is a lot more on the " open minded " side and will turn a blind eye to this ordeal. Unless mind you dramatic harm is being done or underage immigrants are being brought it. I expect them then NOT to stand by and do nothing.

I tend to be in Susi's comments on this. :clap2:
 

uncleg

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I was just thinking the same thing, will be a migration to vancouver.
....and then the NIMBY crowd will start getting vocal.......then guess what happens....
 
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