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Choose the models of Honda and Toyota that are made in Canada... Civic, CR-V, Corolla, Rav4... you can't lose.
 

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IMO my vote goes for Toyota and Lexus as a winner when it comes to reliability, more thought out then competition , just engines for instance have usually timing chains rather then timing belts as belts have to be replaced on regular basis where as chains require minimal maintenance just do oil change on regular basis those things go long time. I think older Honda cars where more reliable then the new ones now. Few years ago as I recall competition tried pull this bs with some of Toyota cars that their gas pedal got stuck and car was accelerating or something like that. I noticed in Thailand you see majority of cars on the road You guessed it Toyota lol....nuff said
 

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Another option is lease. Most leases are for 2 years. Do the math on the lease and buying to compare.
 

Mrmotorscooter

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Times sure have changed in the old days we would buy one with a 6 cylinder so it was more affordable but it had to have a big back seat so we could have some fun at the drive in
 

ddcanz

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Recommend Acura.
We bought an RSX new in 2002 and it still runs like a dream with absolutely minimal maintenance beyond the norm- tires, brakes, fluids etc.
 

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As 80watts mentioned, consider leasing a Civic or Corolla even a Mazda 3. You get full warranty, you only pay for the car you use, you are guaranteed a residual value at the end, lease rates are often as cheap as financing a pre owned car, if you love it in 3 - years you can buy it out, you only pay the sales tax on the monthly amounts so you are not financing those up front, You will have no major expenditures, only regular maintenance items.
On leasing, they don't tell you up front, is any options you add one, you will pay 100% of these amounts over your lease. They are not factored in the residual value.
If you want a really fun car/SUV, consider a pre owned CPO Porsche. With the CPO they can give you a 6 year warranty. Not too shabby, but your annual service costs will be higher than the Honda/Toyoto/Mazda route.

As far as the Yaris & Fit go, they are not a whole lot less than a Corolla/Civic, mileage is comparable, but the C/C's are nicer to drive and have more room
 

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If you are seriously into bargaining for the lowest price, then wait until the end of the month. Many dealerships have quotas that sales people have to meet. If you are dealing with a sales person who needs to add another sale to his/her quota, then they are more likely to take less commission themselves in order to get you to buy from them now.
 

80watts

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What type of additional things would you get?
back up camera? not sure if this is standard now.
sunroof?
electronic mirrors?

one thing I would look for is bluetooth technology ( for hands free phone) where the buttons are on the steering wheel. Any thoughts?

Also as mentioned above, control of heating and air conditioning separate from an electronic screen. Windshield wiper controls/ light controls separate controls.
 

bobjob

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Thanks for all the tips, much appreciated. I was thinking Toyota or Honda. It's basically from A to B but I also want a car that'll be good for road trips.
You can't go wrong with either. One word of advice from someone that has bought and sold hundreds of vehicles over the years...If buying from a dealership, it is usually best to avoid a brand that is not their own. People trading in a Ford at a Chev dealer, for example, are usually unhappy with the Ford, hence buying a Chev.
 

ddcanz

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....If buying from a dealership, it is usually best to avoid a brand that is not their own. People trading in a Ford at a Chev dealer, for example, are usually unhappy with the Ford, hence buying a Chev.
This makes no sense.
A Ford is still a Ford....
A Chev is still a Chev.... regardless of which sales lot it is on.
Whether the previous owner decided they disliked Fords in favour of Chevs is irrelevant.
Even a used Ford trade in on a Ford lot could have been a lemon to the original owner and the current model for sale is more to their liking.
All car owners have their likes and dislikes.
Apples to apples- go where the best deal makes sense.
 

bobjob

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This makes no sense.
A Ford is still a Ford....
A Chev is still a Chev.... regardless of which sales lot it is on.
Whether the previous owner decided they disliked Fords in favour of Chevs is irrelevant.
Even a used Ford trade in on a Ford lot could have been a lemon to the original owner and the current model for sale is more to their liking.
All car owners have their likes and dislikes.
Apples to apples- go where the best deal makes sense.
It makes plenty of sense...if you're Ford is a piece of crap, you most likely won't trade it in on another Ford, but a Chev, Toyota, etc. If you're Ford was a great vehicle that treated you well, you will most likely trade it in for another Ford. If you have ever had friends that sold vehicles, you will know that most people trading in a Chev for a Dodge, for example, more often than not were not happy with the Chev, hence changing brands.
 

ddcanz

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It makes plenty of sense...if you're Ford is a piece of crap, you most likely won't trade it in on another Ford, but a Chev, Toyota, etc. If you're Ford was a great vehicle that treated you well, you will most likely trade it in for another Ford. If you have ever had friends that sold vehicles, you will know that most people trading in a Chev for a Dodge, for example, more often than not were not happy with the Chev, hence changing brands.
Again- what does this have to do with a random person looking for a Ford F-250 with X- amount of options and low kms?
Best deal for the used truck they want could very well be on a Toyota lot.
Who cares if the previous owner was unhappy with it and traded it in towards a Rav 4- or as you say- changed brands.
I don't base my choice on what some unknown and random previous owner feels- for all I know some midget couldn't see over the dash or reach the pedals and needed an import so they could reach the steering wheel with their stubby alligator arms.
People don't just trade vehicles away because they might be a POS- could be it didn't suit their lifestyle etc.
And the progression of technology means more advancements and features in many other brands.
 

apl16

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Look left. Way left.
Find a mid to late 90's Camry with a 2.2 engine with under 200k on it.

Lots of older folks bought and babied them. They will run cheaply for years!

Always get cars checked out by a mechanic before you buy it. it's worth a few bucks to know it's not a lemon.

I checked out a nice Honda Accord about 10 years ago. The car was about 6 years old at the time. It looked great and drove well. The salesman at the Hyundai dealership showed me the list showing all of the things that they checked out after they took it as a trade in.
I nearly bought it but decided to take it to my mechanic to have a look.

The car had a long list of problems of which they showed me. I showed it to the salesperson and gave him shit. He had the balls to ask me if still wanted to buy it.

I laughed at the fucktard and told him to stop wasting my time!

The money I paid for having it checked out saved me a lot of headaches.
 

bobjob

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Again- what does this have to do with a random person looking for a Ford F-250 with X- amount of options and low kms?
Best deal for the used truck they want could very well be on a Toyota lot.
Who cares if the previous owner was unhappy with it and traded it in towards a Rav 4- or as you say- changed brands.
I don't base my choice on what some unknown and random previous owner feels- for all I know some midget couldn't see over the dash or reach the pedals and needed an import so they could reach the steering wheel with their stubby alligator arms.
People don't just trade vehicles away because they might be a POS- could be it didn't suit their lifestyle etc.
And the progression of technology means more advancements and features in many other brands.
If you reread original statement, I said "usually", not always.

"If buying from a dealership, it is usually best to avoid a brand that is not their own. People trading in a Ford at a Chev dealer, for example, are usually unhappy with the Ford, hence buying a Chev."
 

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I've never in my life bought a vehicle based on the brand name. It's always been based on whether it's equipped to do the job I need done. At the moment our family owns four vehicles, representing the North American big three manufacturers. Three of them were manufactured in the last century. They're still doing the job.
 

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Don't this personal but I have found over the years that people who buy north American 1st thought is repairs & it's true IE I had dodge pick up 30,000 km needed a whole new brake job?? Told service manager I thought this was a peace of junk?? Those that buy Japan or Europe don't even think about repairs cause in general if you do your reg service it's going to be a long long time before you need worry about repair--IE when I had a Toyota pick up before the dodge it had 74,000 KM original back brakes 60% Front 45% no other repair at all still new?
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100% agree. They are intentionally under engineered by Chrysler.

Several class action lawsuits over the past 2 decades for failing brakes at < 30K km

I was a pain in the ass at Richmond Chrysler in the service Dept. Several other disgruntled customers were chiming in about their shitty brakes. Service rep said it was my driving. I pointed out my Japanese cars had same brakes with > 75K km's.


I couldn't wait to dump that lease back on their lot.

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit...774-dodge-journey-brake-class-action-lawsuit/
 
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