Burner phone precautions

[GeeBeeP]

One of the friends in our group of misfits used to own a company that provided security services to the digital space, including encrypted phones for lawyers, many who were/are criminal defence lawyers. This is his take:


1. You’re using the phone to bang woman on the side, not selling illegal nuclear weapons. Authorities give less than absolutely zero fucks about your extra curricular activities.

You’re probably are a well behaved individual so while you feel guilty and dangerous for breaking some cardinal rule of thou shall not cheat, you’re not getting Batman out of the bat cave on this one.

2. If you are currently under investigation, law enforcement couldobtained a warrant, if they have enough probable cause, to investigate and obtain your IMIE information.

From this point, they would have to spend the time tracking your text messages and phone conversations and use that to build a solid case against you.

For the courts to put this much effort into investigating you, you must have really fucked up some big time shit. I’m talking running some criminal enterprise, a multiple offender of fraud, running scams on the government, extortion, racketeering, significant drug trafficking, illegal immigration etc. The point is, you’re already in a heap of shit already if this is even a possibility.


3. You could be the target of extortion if you’re a celebrity, wealthy business owner, person of public or political interest, or pro athlete. If that’s the case, you’d probably pay top dollar and use a service like SKYECC in the first place. Maybe this is you?

4. Assuming your concern is keeping yourself out of divorce court, your attention is misdirected. The phone details discussed are not the issue.

Woman are natural investigators. Probably because guys have been putting their pee-pee in places they didn’t approve of since the dinosaurs and they’ve evolved to sniff this shit out.

The act of finding a second phone on its own can be the nail in the coffin. When questioned, that guilty-as-sin look will spell disaster. A second phone with messages or history will finish you. Deleting everything and having a phone with no numbers or history also looks suspicious.

People get caught when they put the address in the car GPS. Gas receipts at a time and location that didn’t match your narrative. Having a big mouth and it finding its way back to the nest. Browser history, having a spouse friend see you at a specific time or location that sparks suspicions


We live in a highly monitored world however the attention is often caused through things we don’t think about vs what we think we should think about. Do a factory reset on your phone, get a pay as you go SIM and happy fucking.

Thanks for this, I suspected as much but it's good to hear. Glad my focus on "home front" security up to now isn't misplaced.

BTW do you personally use a burner / second pooner phone or your regular one with precautions?

 

[take8easy]

Thanks "take8easy"... although, I went on the SpeakOut website and scrolled their "Help" where it states in the fine print that they don't support photos.
Not sure about your iMessage "hack", but I'd have to use my Apple login, which defeats the purpose of having a burner phone.

I was talking about sending photos via messages on my regular non-pooning phone. I can't recall ever sending any photos to anyone using my Speakout burner phone. Having said that, I did receive photos from SP's and another friend of mine.

Regarding sending photo of an Amazon card, I faced this situation about two years ago, when an SP insisted that she wants an advance and said she accepted Amazon gift cards. I just bought one from 7-11 (or was it Safeway?), and sent her the number. She loaded it up her account to be sure and it was all good.

 

[beaveraddict]

I was talking about sending photos via messages on my regular non-pooning phone. I can't recall ever sending any photos to anyone using my Speakout burner phone. Having said that, I did receive photos from SP's and another friend of mine.

Regarding sending photo of an Amazon card, I faced this situation about two years ago, when an SP insisted that she wants an advance and said she accepted Amazon gift cards. I just bought one from 7-11 (or was it Safeway?), and sent her the number. She loaded it up her account to be sure and it was all good.

Haha... here we are, two "technology challenged" GenX'ers!
Maybe it's because my SpeakOut doesn't have a data plan? I only buy the top-up vouchers with cash. I've tried sending photos between my "civilian" iPhone and my "pooning" iPhone at home, while both were on WiFi, but no go with the SpeakOut phone. Like I said, the 7-Eleven website had a help forum and I saw something about it no supporting photos. I haven't bothered with second Apple ID as I already have a NSFW email with another ISP that I use for PERB and MFC, etc.
Maybe someone born after 1980 has a better idea about the photo-thing with SpeakOut?
Don't worry, we won't be competing over the same SPs, I like pubic hair and natural titties LOL

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Haha born after 1980. You young bucks you! Some of us here go back to landlines and answering machines with those little micro cassettes! Anyone near those retro devices could listen to your messages just hitting the retrieve button. And the cost of a 2nd line was crazy so ... the whole contacting thing was generally not by phone back in the day but real face to face. And that was a good part of the excitement then! But back on point here ...

I have always taken the route that hiding in plain sight is the single best way to navigate the cruel waters of the woman scorned. I agree with a lot of what has been posted here too, especially that women tend to be damn good at sniffing out nefarious things we men tend to do. So even though the chances of a GF picking up my phone and scrolling through things is rare, I have found a few simple rules seem to work well:

• Obviously password protect your phone and if you have a hidden file etc, really really hide that!
• I have MS Office on my phone including the various utilities as part of the suite. Notes is a great spot to keep snippets of info and for my regulars list, I have created a technical note related to my business. It has some specs and a couple of calculations that I actually could use in my day to day, then about 6-7 full screens of blankness then my regulars list. The chance of anyone opening that up if they were snooping is very remote (I have about 50 or so notes in there at any one time and my special note is buried in the midst. The chance of them scrolling down multiples of blank screens is pretty much zero.
• I stay diligently on my text, signal, whatsapp and call apps and make frequent use of the delete button of the actual interaction.
• But just deleting the actual call, text etc record is not enough because there is a record in the LOG. So I delete the logs regularly. Repeat, DELETE THE LOGS REGULARLY.
• The one outlier than has happened, and seems to have happened more this past year than anytime in the past is if an SP from the past decides to call or text. Holy fuck, mother of god, sweet thundering geeesus - the heart palpitations when that happens can send an older guy like me into a cardiac event!! An immediate block is then put on that number but if it is a semi regular I get a note back right away and tell them to never do that again etc, but since you called how about a nice BBJ2CWS date? So far (knock on wood) those have never happened when I am with someone where the outcome could be bad.

So as I have posted before, no burner or 2nd phone for me - I strongly believe its presence would be the most damning thing any snooping GF/partner/spouse could find.

Happy Pooning!!

 

[GeeBeeP]

Haha born after 1980. You young bucks you! Some of us here go back to landlines and answering machines with those little micro cassettes! Anyone near those retro devices could listen to your messages just hitting the retrieve button. And the cost of a 2nd line was crazy so ... the whole contacting thing was generally not by phone back in the day but real face to face. And that was a good part of the excitement then! But back on point here ...

I have always taken the route that hiding in plain sight is the single best way to navigate the cruel waters of the woman scorned. I agree with a lot of what has been posted here too, especially that women tend to be damn good at sniffing out nefarious things we men tend to do. So even though the chances of a GF picking up my phone and scrolling through things is rare, I have found a few simple rules seem to work well:

• Obviously password protect your phone and if you have a hidden file etc, really really hide that!
• I have MS Office on my phone including the various utilities as part of the suite. Notes is a great spot to keep snippets of info and for my regulars list, I have created a technical note related to my business. It has some specs and a couple of calculations that I actually could use in my day to day, then about 6-7 full screens of blankness then my regulars list. The chance of anyone opening that up if they were snooping is very remote (I have about 50 or so notes in there at any one time and my special note is buried in the midst. The chance of them scrolling down multiples of blank screens is pretty much zero.
• I stay diligently on my text, signal, whatsapp and call apps and make frequent use of the delete button of the actual interaction.
• But just deleting the actual call, text etc record is not enough because there is a record in the LOG. So I delete the logs regularly. Repeat, DELETE THE LOGS REGULARLY.
• The one outlier than has happened, and seems to have happened more this past year than anytime in the past is if an SP from the past decides to call or text. Holy fuck, mother of god, sweet thundering geeesus - the heart palpitations when that happens can send an older guy like me into a cardiac event!! An immediate block is then put on that number but if it is a semi regular I get a note back right away and tell them to never do that again etc, but since you called how about a nice BBJ2CWS date? So far (knock on wood) those have never happened when I am with someone where the outcome could be bad.

So as I have posted before, no burner or 2nd phone for me - I strongly believe its presence would be the most damning thing any snooping GF/partner/spouse could find.

Happy Pooning!!

I like the Notes idea.
My method for keeping info for regulars and potentials is a email account. I've got an account that no one knows about (as I'm sure we all do) that I only log into when needed, logged out of the app at all other times. I keep my notes in the Drafts folder of the email account. A drafted email with no recipient in it so it can't be accidentally sent has all the notes, numbers, web addresses that I might need. The inconvenience of having to log in all the time is worth it because the info is easily accessible but nothing is stored on the device should a prying eye stumble upon it.

 

[AMG-GTR]

Thanks for this, I suspected as much but it's good to hear. Glad my focus on "home front" security up to now isn't misplaced.

BTW do you personally use a burner / second pooner phone or your regular one with precautions?

I use a regular phone with precautions. I don’t have a reason to hide anything but if I did.....

....I’ll just PM you. Secrets that actually work stop working when everyone gets a broadcast.

 

[BDB9IN]

One of the friends in our group of misfits used to own a company that provided security services to the digital space, including encrypted phones for lawyers, many who were/are criminal defence lawyers. This is his take:


1. You’re using the phone to bang woman on the side, not selling illegal nuclear weapons. Authorities give less than absolutely zero fucks about your extra curricular activities.

You’re probably are a well behaved individual so while you feel guilty and dangerous for breaking some cardinal rule of thou shall not cheat, you’re not getting Batman out of the bat cave on this one.

2. If you are currently under investigation, law enforcement couldobtained a warrant, if they have enough probable cause, to investigate and obtain your IMIE information.

From this point, they would have to spend the time tracking your text messages and phone conversations and use that to build a solid case against you.

For the courts to put this much effort into investigating you, you must have really fucked up some big time shit. I’m talking running some criminal enterprise, a multiple offender of fraud, running scams on the government, extortion, racketeering, significant drug trafficking, illegal immigration etc. The point is, you’re already in a heap of shit already if this is even a possibility.


3. You could be the target of extortion if you’re a celebrity, wealthy business owner, person of public or political interest, or pro athlete. If that’s the case, you’d probably pay top dollar and use a service like SKYECC in the first place. Maybe this is you?

4. Assuming your concern is keeping yourself out of divorce court, your attention is misdirected. The phone details discussed are not the issue.

Woman are natural investigators. Probably because guys have been putting their pee-pee in places they didn’t approve of since the dinosaurs and they’ve evolved to sniff this shit out.

The act of finding a second phone on its own can be the nail in the coffin. When questioned, that guilty-as-sin look will spell disaster. A second phone with messages or history will finish you. Deleting everything and having a phone with no numbers or history also looks suspicious.

People get caught when they put the address in the car GPS. Gas receipts at a time and location that didn’t match your narrative. Having a big mouth and it finding its way back to the nest. Browser history, having a spouse friend see you at a specific time or location that sparks suspicions


We live in a highly monitored world however the attention is often caused through things we don’t think about vs what we think we should think about. Do a factory reset on your phone, get a pay as you go SIM and happy fucking.

OMG can't believe I missed this thread.
YUP, I've got to agree with all of the above.

I work in the IT industry and I don't have any issues using my regular phone to do this.
Luckily I live on so not worried about family.

Law enforcement have far bigger issues to worry about than us.

 

[BDB9IN]

Terrorists need burner phones not Pooners.

 

[Crookedmember]

Due to the growing problem SIM jacking, I bought a second cell line. I use my main number for people and places I trust, and my bank and investment accounts.

The second line is for SPs, online shopping that requires a #, twitter, facebook and email verification and anything else that I feel shouldn't have my 'real' number.

It costs me $13 per month, which is nothing.

 

[zoomer]

phone app such as textnow/textme. Saves the issue of explaining a second phone, can be logged out when not using so no embarrasing cold calls