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bill C11... will this affect online streaming

AmethystAngel

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I wondered if anyone has heard about this.
How will this impact the adult industry? Should I have a pint and not worry so much?
No rush on reply.
 

Man in Submission

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This is a lot to worry about. They are trying to regulate what you watch in the Internet - specifically shows that go against the government's narrative, like Alex Jones Infowars, Brighteon, the Highwire, Great American Vagabond, David Icke, and much, much more. The Liberal maggots led by that Pablo blowhard have rammed it through the house but it still has to go through the Senate this fall, and there has, is and will be a MASSIVE amount of public blowback.
 

AmethystAngel

Sweet bohemian princess
Jul 31, 2015
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Well said. At least we have time to block it. It's painful listening to the House debate this. They have no clue how a site like YouTube works. I am super patriotic but CRTC regulations would be overkill on the site.
 
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Marksman69

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Just so 'Crime Dictator Trudope' can insulate himself against criticism....I doubt he has plans to take away the porn at all.
I wouldn't consider myself a Conservative but I don't like Justin Trudeau at all. If he keeps on getting his way like this I am seriously considering leaving this country.

Call me a tin-foil hat person or whatever but I do believe he really doesn't like us and is a serious problem.
 

Amerix

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What a pathetic joke. The only argument for the CRTC and content requirements was that there were only so many broadcast channels available. There is no limit on streaming on the Internet. If you want to find Canadian content go for it. If the government wants to subsidize Canadian content they have taxes for that.
 

Noob888

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Let’s not forget those lovable Conservatives brought us C-36. Shit on Trudeau all you want but check your rear view mirror and know your history.
Most voters and many people quickly forget and choose to only see what they want to. They block everything else out.
 

Forum mod

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The NDP and the Bloc supported this as well. They will 100% go after streaming and even porn, they have said as much. Great time to start a porn production company in Canada, hire only Canadian Talent.
 

Noob888

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I still don't know what all the fuss is about with this Bill. When the time comes, it'll be posted everywhere if it's noteworthy.

But right now, I'm not happy Amazon will start charging PST and GST.
 

susi

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So we did make a submission to the Digital Citizen Initiative last septmeber. This bill seems focused on Canadian content and french language inclusion...

but they are talking about the creation of a new regulator - Digital Commissioner - and advisory bodies etc.... all the things that could try to eliminate sex work from the internet...

we made a submission which is the following ( it also included a preamble about the human rights act which had been revised with additions but i cut it for posting here);

Establishment of new Regulators


Canadians agree that the current “wild west” status of the internet causes problems on many levels and that some form of regulation is required in order to protect people from all of the harms outlined in the proposed processes.

However, nowhere in the proposed mechanisms are sex workers or adult entertainers mentioned.

Given that a minimum of 100,000 ( up to approx. 250,000) Canadians rely on adult entertainment as their sole source of income to feed and house themselves and their families, consideration must be given to the perspectives and experiences of these workers and legal industry.

The adult entertainment community of workers and entrepreneurs are asking for the following additions and changes to the framework as outlined in both the Discussion document and Technical document;

Module 1(a) – New Legislative and Regulatory Framework

Recognize that OCS is used by more than 100,000 Canadians as their sole means of income in the legal adult entertainment sector.
Addition to (c) - Consider that the hatred spread online often has a disproportionate impact on women, Indigenous Peoples, members of racialized and religious minority communities and on LGBTQ2 and gender-diverse communities, persons with disabilities and people working in the adult entertainment sector;

Application

The Act should include definitions of content which is NOT harmful to ensure that legal work in the adult entertainment sector is not impacted by ideological opinions and efforts to counter exploitation or “end the sex industry”. Specific definitions to ensure that this safe, legal employment sector is not undermined by hateful expressions of myths about sex workers lives. That truth about sex work and adult entertainment, ethical research which meets the test of the Tr-Council Policy Statement (2) are only used to inform any actions taken to counter exploitation in the adult sector.

The Act should specifically state that impartiality is a critical feature of any regulation of the adult sector and that sweeping statements, based in hatred, are not entertained or allowed to influence any regulation of or enforcement against this legal employment sector.

Module 1(B): New Rules and Obligations

General Obligations
– 10(a) -The Act should provide that an OCSP must take measures to ensure that the implementation and operation of the procedures, practices, rules and systems, including any automated decision making, put in place for the purpose of moderating harmful content that is communicated on its OCS and that is accessible to persons in Canada, do not result in differential treatment of any group, including adult entertainers and sex workers, based on a prohibited ground of discrimination within the meaning of the Canadian Human Rights Act and in accordance with regulations. (this addition needs to be specifically added so as to prevent misuse of rules by anti sex work zealots)

14. The Act should provide that an OCSP must generate and provide reports on a scheduled basis to the Digital Safety Commissioner on Canada-specific data about:
(f) – How they monetize harmful content – should read “how they monetize content” - harmful content assumes the OCSP is purposely monetizing harmful content and reflects an inherent bias from the onset of this proposed regulatory body.

Incident response protocol

18. [D] The Act should provide the Digital Safety Commissioner with the authority, with the approval of the Governor in Council, to establish an Incident Response Protocol for the purpose of implementing the Christchurch Call to Eliminate Terrorist and Violent Extremist Content Online and reducing the online communication of content relating to terrorist activities. The Incident Response Protocol would respond to an act or omission as described in the definition of “terrorist content” tied to an emergent, ongoing, or recently concluded real-world attack in Canada, or outside of Canada when content is shared on one or more Canadian-based OCSs.

Sex workers and adult entertainers would like to point out that the attacks in Toronto and Atlanta against massage parlor workers would qualify under this provision. This would require the removal of hateful/ untrue/ malicious content by anti sex work organizations and which has lead directly real world acts of violence and terror against the Canadian sex working community.

Content created by those groups actively promoting hatred of sex workers is wide spread and widely available in Canada and after an attack like the Toronto attack, we would hope to see those OCSP who host this kind of hateful content held to account and that content removed.

We would also hope to see any funding of these individuals and organizations via public money stopped in respect of the inherent threat they pose to the sex working community in Canada.

Module 1(C): Establishment of the new regulators
Digital Safety Commissioner

Establishment and Function

35. The Act should provide for the establishment of the Digital Safety Commissioner, whose functions are to:
(a) Oversee and improve online content moderation, by:
1. Administering and enforcing obligations;
Ensuring balanced and unbiased consideration of complaints about the legal adult entertainment sector and which reflects an understanding of the negative impacts actions taken may have on the lives and safety of Canadians working in adult entertainment and their families.
2. Engaging with and considering the particular needs of and barriers faced by groups disproportionately affected by harmful online content such as women and girls, Indigenous Peoples, members of racialized communities and religious minorities and of LGBTQ2 and gender-diverse communities, persons with disabilities and people working in sex work or the adult entertainment sector; and
2. Supporting platforms in reducing harmful content affecting peoples in Canada.

Composition

38. The Act should provide that a person appointed as Commissioner or Deputy Commissioner must declare any conflict of interest, in particular any history of a private interest in the abolition of the sex industry, and must not be a shareholder of an OCS or OCSP.
 

susi

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Digital Recourse Council of Canada
Composition


46. The Act should provide that the Digital Recourse Council of Canada will be composed of no fewer than three (3) and no more than five (5) members, appointed by the Governor in Council. The Governor in Council will designate one (1) member as the Chairperson and may designate one (1) member as the Vice-Chairperson. The Act should provide that in appointing members, the Governor in Council shall take into consideration the importance of diverse subject-matter experts reflective of the Canadian population, particularly inclusive of women, Indigenous Peoples, members of racialized communities and religious minorities, of LGBTQ2 and gender-diverse communities, persons with disabilities and sex workers.

Sex workers note that the proposed limit of commission members is 5 but the stakeholder groups number 8. This is a fundamental flaw with the proposed Commission and the number of members should reflect the number of groups identified by the government and sex industry representatives.

48. The Act should provide that the Digital Recourse Council of Canada’s members must declare any conflict of interest, including a private interest in the abolition of the sex industry, and must not be a shareholder of an OCS or OCSP.

Sex workers know that those people who promote hatred of our community are lining up to be appointed to this committee/ council which will have power over our lives and safety. Any person who holds a private interest in the abolition of the sex industry must NOT be granted a position on the Council. It is a conflict of interest and has inherent tangible value to those who base their income and power on the oppression of the sex industry community via promotion of hatred, bias assertions and the ideology of all sex work being violence

Adult Entertainment and adult film work are legal in this country and represent a large percentage of people employed via use of OCSP. Any actions proposed which could undermine our lives, safety, ability to feed and house ourselves and our families must consider those impacts and seek feedback/ input from our community before being adopted.

The legal adult entertainment sector must have a place on this Council and be recognized as critical to the success of it's stated goals.

Advisory board

71. The Act should provide for the establishment of an Advisory Board composed of no more than seven (7) members who are appointed by the Minister at pleasure. The Act should provide that the Minister consider the importance of inclusive membership of the Advisory Board reflective of the Canadian population, particularly inclusive of women, Indigenous Peoples, members of racialized communities and religious minorities, of LGBTQ2 and gender-diverse communities, persons with disabilities and sex workers.

72. The Act should provide that in appointing members, the Minister take into consideration the importance of having members that are knowledgeable about or have experience related to law, technology, equity and social science, and are drawn from advocacy groups, including civil liberties, equity or victim advocacy organizations, the online communication industry, adult entertainment workers and academia.

Conclusion

Canadian Adult entertainers have been disproportionately impacted by the pandemic and many have turned to OCPS to feed and house themselves and their families via legal income. From the beginning the adult industry has had a large presence on the internet and has provided safer work options for sex working people in Canada.

Any regulation or regulator being created must include representatives from this legal industry and ensure that ideological opinions and goals of a few anti sex industry zealots do not undermine the human rights of Canadians who work or are entrepreneurs in this sector.

Those people who hold a private interest in the abolition of the sex industry must NOT be given power over our lives and safety. They have proven time and time again to know no depths when it comes to achieving those personal private interests and have no ethics in how they reach those goals.

This Submission outlining some of the issues with the proposed regulatory framework only begins to highlight the glaring omissions of these provisions and proposed mechanisms. The potential for biased and dangerous actions against the sex industry community are predictable and overt.

The only solution is sex industry representation and inclusion in both the Canadian Human Rights Act and the development of the regulatory processes being outlined here.

I will remind the reader that as public servants, you have sworn an oath of office. That oath binds you to impartiality and preventing the appearance of a conflict of interest. I have seen 4 different Codes of Conduct which demand that the sex industry is represented and included and that hate crimes/ hate speech against our community is addressed. The rules governing Conflict of Interest also demand that those groups and individuals who hold a private interest in the abolition of the sex industry must not be given power over our lives and safety.

I am available at any time to discuss these issues and how Canada can respect the rights and safety of all citizens in this work to address harmful content on the internet in particular as it relates terrorism against and promotion of hatred of my community, sex workers.

Susan Davis
Director
BC Coalition of Experiential Communities
 
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