Clark's Liberals will certainly be put to a non-confidence vote almost as soon as the Legislature reconvenes -- a CBC article described her as "chastened", which I found quite dramatic. Nonetheless, this is the end of, what, 15-16 years of provincial Liberal government in BC? It will be interesting to see what happens next with a new (presumably) coalition government.....
BC Elections : Predictions Anyone?
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Good point. The risk of FN court challenge is a significant risk, despite the claims of NEB that it "adequately" consulted with FNs during its panel hearings, despite the government's own three-member speacial panel (Kim Baird, Tony Penikett and Annette Trimbee) that Trudeau put in place to give the NEB's panel report a second look, refusing to declare the project in public interest, saying it was not on their mandate from the government. FN leaders have complained that adequate consultation, as required pursuant to s. 35 of the Constitution Act of Canada, has not been done. And, as I have said in one of my previous posts Tsleil-Waututh and Kwantlen Nations have already filed court challenges. If nothing else, court challenges erode investor confidence as they know court proceedings can drag on for years, especially on matters of Constitutional jurisdictions (s. 35). Plus, regulatory permitting is still a 100% provincial jurisdiction (and there will most likely be a new premier who is opposed to the Trans Mountain Expansion project).
All said and done, project could still be built, but one has to be out of mind to claim or declare that it will be built, like Rachel Notely did the other day. At least Trudeau retrained his rhetorics and only said that the project is in Canada's interest and he has a duty to balance economic growth and environmental protection.
Albertans like Rachel Notely and all the conservatives and their die-hard fans don't realize this one thing -- it's not about the carbon emissions and climate change that the British Columbians are scared about (afterall, it's not specifically only BC's concern; it's everybody's concern, despite the opinion expressed by Kinder Morgan's head that there is no evidence that climate change is caused by human actions). The risk to BC is not even so much from the pipeline and numerous watercourse crossings. The main risk to BC is from the four-fold increase in Aframax marine tankers to 444 every year that would be in the narrow Burrard Inlet. Rachel Notely and the cons wouldn't give a damn if BC's coast were to see an Exxon Valdez of our own.
(Note: Some PERB members have noted that pipeline projects are within federal jurisdiction. Not all. They are within federal jurisdiction only if the pipeline crosses provincial or international border (like Trans Mountain, Northern Gateway, Keystone XL, etc.) or have a marine transportation component. There are many other pipelines that are entirely within BC (mostly natural gas pipeline from the Monteney shale gas formation in the North East BC that are strictly within BC's jurisdiction, regulated not by the National Energy Board, but by BC's own Oil and Gas Commission.)
Additional Note: In addition to the numerous provincial permits that is 100% within provincial jurisdiction, certain regulatory authorizations are within federal jurisdiction (e.g., those under Fisheries Act, Navigation Water Protection Act, etc.) Just thought I'd make that distinction.
One wonders why any corporation would even bother trying to build something that faces so many regulatory processes and so many challenges. Kinder Morgan must expect that pipeline to generate huge revenue, for it to be worth their while.
Protests by 1st Nations peoples.....give me a fucking break.It is not a protest it is a contest to see how much much money they can shake out of it for themselves and whilst doing so continue to neglect their own people.There are 350 Indian "Chiefs" in Canada who are all millionaires.They got rich looting the largesse provided by the Federal Government via outright theft etc or just plain financial mismangement.Good example is Attiwapiscat in Northern Ontario.The Chief Theresa Spence goes on a "hunger strike" because the reserve is in such dire straights....well first off she looks like she has never missed a meal in her life....next up is that the school is falling apart.....funny how they have a brand new hockey arena with an NHL worthy scoreboard and a brand new Zamboni that had to be trucked in to the reserve in Northern Ontario.
The Harper government did pass and enact a First Nations financial accountabilty law that would have shown to all First Nations people where the money their respective bands were getting and to where it is being spent and to who was getting paid.The first thing the Shiney Poney did was to get rid of that legislation......in the true Socialist mindset of "do as I say not as I do" which ALL of the Indians at the top of the proverbial money chain got right on board.
When it comes right down to it all of the proposed pipeline projects in Canada should have been done 20 years ago when I first moved to Alberta in 1997 when the price of oil was recovering after the price crash brought about by that douchebag Pierre Trudeau and his National Energy Program in the 1980's.Well before the massive rise in oil prices as well as well before the utter bullshit Climate Change sham that is being foisted onto Canadians and also well before American special interest groups such as the Tides Foundation started to interfere with the Canadian electoral system.Personally I consider any Canadian who would take money from an American special interest group to work against the National interests of Canada such as energy development and the infrastructure associated with it to be a seditious traitor and people like that deserve to be in jail at the least or prefferably executed for outright treason.
Climate Change is a Socialist sham....evil greenhouse gas emissions right now are at 380 parts per million.....and 475 million years ago they were 8000 parts per million and well before mankind even evolved and never fucking mind the industrial revolution.The earth got through that and worse over it's billions of years worth of existence including in the last couple of millenia of the newest infection which is mankind.The planet can shake us off like a bad case of fleas.Cue up an earthquake mother nature say in Vancouver and a real bad one...well theres a few million gone as the Left Coast drops into the ocean....perhaps a flood in India....maybe a volcano spewing it's worst in the Philipines.....how about a few dozen twisters in the southern USA.
At the same time how the fuck does charging Canadians a tax to heat their homes in one of the coldest countries on the planet actually CHANGE anything?It CHANGES nothing...it is still fucking cold and Canadians have to heat their homes....that or freeze to death.
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All that the Electric Car has been waiting for is batteries that will provide a decent range and recharge overnight on household current. The Chevy Bolt shows how close the technology has come to replacing gas automobiles. Even if the owner is in a Condo and can't plug in, the new Toyota Prius has better fuel economy than the previous Prius models.
There is an economist that is saying that Oil will be stuck at less than $50 which makes Shale Oil, the Oil Sands and deepwater Oil all too expensive to exploit.
A reserve is not a Nation. A reserve is a land reserved by Crown for the purposes of dwelling by First Nations community members. A First Nation can have one or more reserves for this purpose. Not all community members live on reserves; some choose to live off reserves.
A Nation is a group of people sharing common heritage, culture, language, religion, origin, way of life, physical features, etc.
First Nations are people who came before everyone else.
Pipelines do not go through a reserve. They may go though a traditional territory of First Nations. The chance of a pipeline going through a reserve is as good as s highway going through your living room.
Chiefs and councils do not have monopoly on the affairs of the First Nations. For major issues affecting e lives of the community members, the decisions of chiefs and councils have to be ratified by their community members.
So much bitterness. So much ignorance. And so much ideology-based insults and hate.
Didn't somebody suggest Prozac?
Money, my friend, money. And there's a lot of it. But you answered your question yourself.
To get an idea about to what length oil companies can go to extract oil from the earth or seas, just watch the Netflix documentary Deepwater Horizon.
one problem we have is that almost our only customer for oil is the US, and they would prefer to keep it that way because they don't pay market price for our oil, they pay a lot less
if however we were able to develop the export market for our oil, the US would be faced with a higher oil price and of course our other overseas customers would be paying market price with a positive benefit to our oil industry
would be nice to see the shareholders, government taxes, workers, suppliers all benefit from these higher prices, higher margins
pipeline is a safer way to transport oil, tankers either rail or by road are far less safe
if however we were able to develop the export market for our oil, the US would be faced with a higher oil price and of course our other overseas customers would be paying market price with a positive benefit to our oil industry
would be nice to see the shareholders, government taxes, workers, suppliers all benefit from these higher prices, higher margins
pipeline is a safer way to transport oil, tankers either rail or by road are far less safe
well aint that typical....I notice you did not actually come up with an arguement/rebuttal for the facts I mentioned.
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When somebody prefers to assume facts not in evidence, I prefer not to engage. There's no point.
If you take a northern road trip you will find mounting evidence of climate change. One of the games up there is to throw matches into sink holes to watch them burn.
Canada produces 2% of the worlds greenhouse gas emissions(CO2) and that total includes transportation which includes cars/railroads/public transit etc.It also accounts for manufacturing/agriculture/oil and gas and everything else we do as a nation.At the same time Canada's northern boreal forest CLEANS up 50% of the worlds greenhouse gas emissions.Canada should be imposing a tax on other countries for the sustainable logging practices out industry uses instead of taxing Canadians to heat their homes via a carbon tax.
As for the carbon tax it will be implemented starting in 2018 at $10 a ton which means 50 cents per gigagoule of natural gas.It will be raised incrementally by $10 a year by 2022 at a cost of $50 a ton or more meaning fully $2.50 a gigajoule for natural gas which at current prices is damn near the same cost of that tax as your natural gas will cost you which will double your gas bill if not more as the GST gets stacked on top.Will that lower the emissions of the evil greenhouse gas that is CO2......no it wont lower it it will just tax Canadians from coast to coast whilst the Lieberals virtue signal and then continue with the tax and spend more agenda.Eventually the government will start buying "carbon credits" because they are not reducing emissions.The money to buy them is tax payer money and it will be given to undeveloped countries and it will achieve nothing other than wealth being transferred from Canada to other countries via the Socialist sham that is Climate Change.
The biggest plank with the Paris accord is to stop the levels of CO2 from rising and they are currently 380 PPM(thats parts per million) and in 1960 which is the baseline the UN IPCC chose as a baseline they were 260 PPM.....so in 57 years the worlds CO2 level has not even doubled yet the climate alarmists are spouting that the world is in imminent danger.Funny how if you go back 475 million years and the worlds CO2 was 8000 PPM and 3 quarters of the globe was covered in ICE and mankind did not even exist yet and wow the planet turned out just fine.
Climate change is a sham and the science behind it is dodgy to say the least.Al Gore predicted that New York would be under water by a few years ago and funny enough the Big Apple is still there and doing fine.As for the assertions that there is no feathering of nests via First Nations Chiefs and the Band council members.....try visiting a few reserves and take a look at the Chiefs house as well as the council members homes and then compare them to what everybody else on the reserve lives in......big contrast to say the least.
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Good article by Martyn Brown in the GS explaining possible upcoming scenarios for the BC legislature
http://www.straight.com/news/921736/martyn-brown-anticipating-bcs-ultimate-knock-knock-joke
http://www.straight.com/news/921736/martyn-brown-anticipating-bcs-ultimate-knock-knock-joke
SR you would be better start your own thread about climate change deniers and another one for Indian affairs reform as you are getting sidetracked . What you are talking about has nothing to do about bc politics.
That "Canada produces 2% of the worlds greenhouse gas emissions" figure is often quoted by the oil industry, the deniers, the rest of the do-nothing lobby.
Canada has 0.5% of the world population. So using the 2% figure, that means we produce 4x the average emissions per-capita.
But on your second point, I'd dispute the "50%" figure for our boreal forest - but if your point is to say we should not be cutting any more of it down, then yeah, we shouldn't. The under-reported portion of the climate-change issue is how much deforestation is still going on, damaging our ability to remove atmospheric carbon. (And yeah, Canada doesn't have a great record on that front either.)
If it comes to the idea of putting sanctions on imports from countries that are carbon villains - on the emissions production side and the deforestation side - I'd support that too. It should not benefit them to produce things the cheap & dirty way. But that means we still have to clean up our own act if that's going to work.
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The term "97% of scientists agree" that climate change is happening and is real is the biggest load of horse shit ever said.Yes 97 % of scientists agree that climate change is happening and they also agree that it has always happened.Do the 97 % agree that the planet is on a collision course to it's death because of "man made global warming"...well no they dont agree on that.That is when the pigs at the trough start labelling other scientists as "deniers" because those people dont back up what they pigs at the trough have to say and at the same time those same pigs at the trough got busted via "Climate Gate" where thousands of emails were leaked that showed the skewing of data/omission of data as well as outright lies and also the emails to act in collusion to discredit all scientists that did not agree with the people that submitted the false information.After "Climate Gate" it was no longer called "Global Warming"...the gears got shifted and thusly "Climate Change" was the new moniker.The usual shills were still there selling the emperors new clothes such as Suzuki/Gore and they are of course still busy feathering their nests.So funny how Al Gore is a champion against "Climate Change" yet he wont tele-conference or skype to address one of the fancy climate change accord meetings...that is because he WONT get PAID because he was not there in person.Same thing goes for that douchebag Suzuki.They are charlatans preying upon the public that are spoon fed the leftist crapulence by the media.
Is the climate changing?Hell yes it is...it changes all the time as it has done so for the billions of years this planet has been around.Thus far "Mother Earth" has survived earthquakes/tectonic shifting/solar radiation/sun flares/forest fires/floods/mud slides/meteorites/asteroids(including the one that wiped out the dinosaurs)/Ice ages/droughts/solar radiation/gravitational shifts/Tsunamis/human habitation which includes the age of industrialization as well as warfare such as the development of atomic weapons as well as the very well tested developments of those same atomic weapons.Oh yeah and throw in as many natural dissasters I forgot to name.As far as "Mother Earth" is concearned mankind is like a bad case of fleas to be dealt with anytime "Mother Earth" wants to scrape a bunch of us off the planet.Perhaps a volcanic eruption or say a tidal wave that hits Indonessia.Throw in an earthquake in India as well as an ice storm in Quebec.Perhaps an extra long monsoon season in Thailand combined with no fucking rain on Canada's Prairie region or for shits and giggles a volcanic eruption in the Phillipines which is on the Earths Ring Of Fire.
To have the audacity to think that MANKIND can control the planets climate is a fucking joke considering we cant reliably predict the fucking weather on a day to day basis.When it comes down to it the Shiny Pony(Trudeau) will saddle Canadians with a Carcon Tax come 2018 which is just 1 year before the next election but it wont rise until he gets another term.If he gets another term and the Carbon Tax rises those taxes will go to buying "Carbon Credits" and Canada will not actually lower and emissions.It will all be done on paper and tax payers money will be sent to less developed countries....hence the Socialist SHAM.
Storm rider my friend it is time to live up to your name and go invest your life savings in Miami on properties in one of the AE zones . Go experience their regular high tides and their king tides as well as riding their higher than normal frequency in terms of storms and hurricanes . Once done get back to us .
If you borrow just a bit you might get a few good lots for your kids and grandkids . Let us know how it pans out in 10 or 20 years .
If you borrow just a bit you might get a few good lots for your kids and grandkids . Let us know how it pans out in 10 or 20 years .
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. He didn't say climate change wasn't real. He questioned the actions that politicians would have you believe is solving the problem.
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