How can these people ever be civilized?
http://www.albawaba.com/editorchoice/yemen-child-marriage-human-rights-519066
http://www.albawaba.com/editorchoice/yemen-child-marriage-human-rights-519066
Barbaric/Savage/Brutal/Disgusting
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Sorry, you're dead wrong. It is cultural and religious and there-in lies the problem. Where bear baiting, burning witches and beating your wife used to be culturally acceptable, most progressive societies have evolved and moved on to make these things like that unacceptable.
Yemen had a law banning child brides and repealed it on pressure from Islamic scholars. That is willfully wanting to stay in the past when people only lived to be 40.
Multiculturalism
Another ridiculous example of the prevalent multicultural attitude and moral relativity.
Another ridiculous example of the prevalent multicultural attitude and moral relativity.
An 8 year old is raped to death and you want to talk cultural relativism? :frusty:
From Human Rights Watch:
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2011/12/07/how-come-you-allow-little-girls-get-married
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2011/12/07/how-come-you-allow-little-girls-get-married
quick, ask to have this thread deleted before the american cia gets wind of it...
next thing you know they'll be calling for missile strikes against yemen for allowing human rights abuses
next thing you know they'll be calling for missile strikes against yemen for allowing human rights abuses
It's almost impossible to have anything but a discussion that addresses the lowest common denominator on this board. Many people here read things out of context, or just don't have any brain power to understand anything except the black and white. They jump on one or two words and blow it right up out of context or perspective, there is no such thing as a nuanced understanding of things in order to see the truth. I've almost given up because the intellectual level here is often no greater than grade 7.
Poor poor girl. When I was 8 I was playing and going to school and one day my mum showed me a newspaper article talking about a 10 year old girl who got brutally raped resulting in her passing away, she was so upset. Told me not to go out to play alone anymore. In my 8 year old mind I could not understand or comprehend but I was scared enough to listen to my mother, I hope some day child marriages can be eradicated like a deathly disease. Forced child marriages are essentially promoting pedophilia.
In traditional cultures generally entering puberty is what determines when you become an adult (there is typically some sort of initiation ritual). For them, that is what determines when you can get married. The "18" thing is a modern European concept, and is something that is neither historic nor globally accepted. And in those cultures at that age they are nothing like children in the west, you can't use western standards to determine what is proper or not.
In cultures with pre-arranged marriages, that can happen at younger ages, but they are supposed to wait until puberty before consummating though.
In cultures with pre-arranged marriages, that can happen at younger ages, but they are supposed to wait until puberty before consummating though.
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westcoast555
What do you mean 'perspective'? Fucking 8 year-olds is sick. Selling off your own 8 year old daughter to be fucked by some pedophile is sick. How does the fact that it's supposedly part of their culture make any difference?
sounds like these folk don`t draw the line at young girls either...
according to the following posts by melody and sarah
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?188695-A-man-in-Saudi-Arabia-purchased-a-male-goat-for-approximately-3-5-Million-USD&p=1430922&viewfull=1#post1430922
according to the following posts by melody and sarah
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?188695-A-man-in-Saudi-Arabia-purchased-a-male-goat-for-approximately-3-5-Million-USD&p=1430922&viewfull=1#post1430922
Just playing Devil's advocate here, but what is the difference between this and the Catholic priests that raped young boys in Canada and the US? Hard to say we are any more civilized than them isn't it??? Or even factor in the abuses that took place at residential schools. Before we start judging other cultures, maybe we should work on fixing every thing that is wrong in our own country!
Well, the main points are it isn't acceptable in the religion and sanctioned by the state. It wasn't when it was done and people were prosecuted for it. There's a huge difference when it is actually allowed in a culture to where aberrant individuals break the law of the state and religion.
Yemen is a very backward country and the rape of this little girl isn't an isolated incident or morally reprehensible to a lot of the population. They actually repealed a law against it in 2009 - read it again - 2009! Not 500 years ago. Those are current legislators.
Miss Melody excusing it as, "a cultural thing. Oh, but I don't agree with it..." is just a convenient out. You've already accepted it by excusing it. It's like going to a bull fight, then saying you don't think people should go to them. Empty words.
This was you first response - "First of all they appear to be marginally civilized. Secondly it's a cultural, apparently. Some cultures find our eating meat barbaric/disgusting.
Not saying it makes what happened or happens excusable or right, in my mind. Just pointing out some things to put it in perspective. "
You are what is known as a cultural apologist. In the quest to be PC cultural apologists will first make an historical or cultural reference. Next, the cultural apologist will often say we should be more understanding. Then, they will usually say the behaviour or situation isn't what they would want, leaving the "...but..." unsaid. Then, they will end by saying those cultures also don't like what we do.
Obviously you, or anybody else here doesn't want to see an 8-year-old girl raped to death by anyone because it is appalling and horrific, but it is telling that your FIRST response wasn't anger, or horror or condemnation - it was to "put it in perspective."
And, I'm not sure what cultures you're referring to that think our eating meat is barbaric/disgusting. Virtually every culture on the world eats meat, some have religious sanctions against certain types, but even those are (ignoring the usual religious insane reasons for anything) often moveable and change over time.
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westcoast555
People who sell 8 year old girls into sexual slavery... ? I will point fingers at such people and call them names. I'm that unreasonable and close-minded.
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westcoast555
Sometimes that's how things change. A little outrage can be a good thing. That's what's gotten the national conversation around rape going in India. Hasn't it?
You're coming across as an apologist because in our society today it is deeply ingrained to not criticize other cultures even if what they are doing is totally heinous and obscene. Criticizing others is just... so... 'distasteful' isn't it? Not something an educated person would do.
After all it has to be put into cultural perspective right?
sounds like we've got a volunteer front-line soldier right here... let the games begin
