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White people did not create it, but we ENDED slavery.
I love quotes like this. 'We' ended slavery. I'm willing to bet you didn't do jack shit.

Slavery started being abolished in China and India thousands of years ago. Rome passed laws to treat it's slaves in a more humane manner after the 3rd slave uprising. Dude named Spartacus. Various countries had started taking steps to eliminate slavery all together over the last few centuries.
In North America, the US and Brazil were among the last countries to abolish slavery. Mostly due to pressure from Great Britain and it's navy blocking slave ships from sailing.
Slavery still exists in the Gulf Arab states, and in the west, still exists through the trafficking of women for prostitution.
 
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US Constitution, 13th Amendment 13. A foundation of the penal-industrial complex disguised as an abolition of slavery.
 
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Saying white people ended slavery is like a serial killer saying they put an end to their own killing spree. Good for you, you still have a body count.
HarDeHar-- So once again, all the NA Indians, The Moors, The Barbary Pirates, the African tribes, all of them who had no contact with white people and yet still kept slaves only did so because white people from the future infected their minds?

And you genuinely think you are not a racist icehole?
 

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I love quotes like this. 'We' ended slavery. I'm willing to bet you didn't do jack shit.

Slavery started being abolished in China and India thousands of years ago. Rome passed laws to treat it's slaves in a more humane manner after the 3rd slave uprising. Dude named Spartacus. Various countries had started taking steps to eliminate slavery all together over the last few centuries.
In North America, the US and Brazil were among the last countries to abolish slavery. Mostly due to pressure from Great Britain and it's navy blocking slave ships from sailing.
Slavery still exists in the Gulf Arab states, and in the west, still exists through the trafficking of women for prostitution.
Slavery exist to this day in open markets in Libya. As far as "I didn't do shit", well gee, I wasn't alive 200 years ago when white people, and only white people ended slavery.

slavery was very specifically for black people
That is a lie. I guess you didn't read up on Anthony Johnson, did you? And as far as Africans sold into slavery, shouldn't you be blaming the African Kings of Dohomey, who spent hundreds of years selling their fellow Africans? Most of whom went to South America and the Caribbean, BTW. By a margin of some 10:1.

But facts aren't really all that important to you, are they?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histo...rned his forces,capital from Abomey to Allada.
 
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As far as "I didn't do shit", well gee, I wasn't alive 200 years ago when white people, and only white people ended slavery.
Yes, you didn't do shit, but doesn't stop you from taking credit for other peoples actions by saying 'we'.
Again, it wasn't only white people (Europeans, is what I'm assuming you're trying to say) that ended slavery. Last I checked, Indians, Chinese, and Ottomans weren't 'white'.

The Moors, The Barbary Pirates, the African tribes, all of them who had no contact with white people
The Moors, Barbary Pirates, and African tribes in West Africa were all in regular contact with European cultures. North Africa was part of the Roman Empire. The Moors ruled Spain and Portugal from around 730AD to about 1490AD. Carthage invaded Europe and marched on Rome under Hannibal. Didn't you study history?

Slavery exist to this day in open markets in Libya
white people, and only white people ended slavery.
Try and reconcile those 2 statements of yours. Slavery still exists in North America and Europe through the trafficking of women.
 
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I guess you didn't read up on Anthony Johnson, did you?
I had never heard of him. Had to look him up. Apparently brought over as an indentured labourer, not a slave, 40 years before slavery officially became legalized in Virginia.
Doesn't contradict anything I said. In North America, only black people were considered slaves. There were no white slaves, Chinese slaves, or Indian slaves. Only black people.
There were free blacks as well, who would own other blacks as slaves.

And as far as Africans sold into slavery, shouldn't you be blaming the African Kings of Dohomey, who spent hundreds of years selling their fellow Africans? Most of whom went to South America and the Caribbean, BTW. By a margin of some 10:1.
No one has exonerated African rulers who would enslave foreign tribes and sell them to European traders. They were never freed from blame. All their countries were invaded, colonized, wealth appropriated by European countries. I don't recall anyone on this thread trying to exonerate them. You're engaging in 'whataboutism', to deflect from the issue being discussed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
 
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People who claim slavery didn't exist, or in the past it only existed because slavery was promoted by the slave nations themselves, are the most stupid people alive.
 
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On a different note - do any white providers ever discriminate against white men by saying I am white so I won't be seeing white clients as it may lead me to run into someone I know.

I get it, this business has a lot of complexities but when a provider says I won't see a person of certain ethnicity it is plain wrong. It may not be systemic racism but it is a bias based on little knowledge and appreciation of human diversity. With proper screening and efficient communication risk of running into someone you know can be minimized but plainly not accepting clients of a certain race is not right. Even if it is a person of the same race.
 

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Due to the intimate nature of this business, an SP has the right to decline any business for any reason. And they don’t need to explain why to anyone.


is there not enough other issues in the world for SJWs to focus on or do they also need to police other people’s sex lives?

is “my body my choice” only applicable to abortion?
 

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On a different note - do any white providers ever discriminate against white men by saying I am white so I won't be seeing white clients as it may lead me to run into someone I know.

I get it, this business has a lot of complexities but when a provider says I won't see a person of certain ethnicity it is plain wrong. It may not be systemic racism but it is a bias based on little knowledge and appreciation of human diversity. With proper screening and efficient communication risk of running into someone you know can be minimized but plainly not accepting clients of a certain race is not right. Even if it is a person of the same race.
Have you ever heard of honour killings?
 
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I had never heard of him. Had to look him up. Apparently brought over as an indentured labourer, not a slave, 40 years before slavery officially became legalized in Virginia.
Doesn't contradict anything I said. In North America, only black people were considered slaves. There were no white slaves, Chinese slaves, or Indian slaves. Only black people.
There were free blacks as well, who would own other blacks as slaves.



No one has exonerated African rulers who would enslave foreign tribes and sell them to European traders. They were never freed from blame. All their countries were invaded, colonized, wealth appropriated by European countries. I don't recall anyone on this thread trying to exonerate them. You're engaging in 'whataboutism', to deflect from the issue being discussed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
You have never heard of Anthony Johnson because you are too stupid to read the previous comments in this thread. And this is my last post to you, because clearly you are incapable of honest debate. And I have nothing to "reconcile" because you live in Bizarro World.

What on earth does the fact that white people abolished and criminalized slavery in white nations 200 years ago have to do with non-white slavers today? Good god!

Wait, never mind. You can reply to others, if you like. Your responses indicate you not are smart enough to reply to me, so from this point forward your responses will be ignored, at least by me.

Best to you
 
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stupid hill to die on but at least you’re dead
To you, certainly. As are you to me.

I'm not really all that much into racism, and I hope the men who would consider seeing you are not into racism, either. I hope they read your posts when they are thinking about this. But it's your choice, and their choice, too.

Best to to you.
 
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To you, certainly. As are you to me.

I'm not really all that much into racism, and I hope the men who would consider seeing you are not into racism, either. I hope they read your posts when they are thinking about this. But it's your choice, and their choice, too.

Best to to you.
I do quite well without racist clients like you thanks ??‍♀
 
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What on earth does the fact that white people abolished and criminalized slavery in white nations 200 years ago have to do with non-white slavers today? Good god!
Slavery has NOT been eliminated. Not in North America, not in Europe. 'White slavery' still exists.

Your responses indicate you not are smart enough to reply to me
I actually had a chuckle at that.
 

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you are too stupid to read the previous comments in this thread. And this is my last post to you, because clearly you are incapable of honest debate.
I don't frequent white supremacist sites, so I'm not familiar with the talking points and names that get thrown around. But I am familiar enough with history to know that the people of Africa and Europe have interacted for many thousands of years. Your information in regards to that was so far off, I'm not comfortable that this name you dropped is any more accurate. There is a page in Wikipedia, but if you had read it, you would have noticed this qualifier:

" Historians have some dispute as to whether this was the Antonio later known as Anthony Johnson, as the census lists several "Antonios."

I guess I'm just too stupid to simply parrot random trivia that feeds into my confirmation bias.

BTW, the 13th Amendment re-established institutionalized slavery in the USA. As was mentioned above.
 
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Anyone else just never book with an Asian provider based on the fact that a whole lotta bunch of their pictures are fake? Well and 50 in Asian=22 in Caucasian?
90% of the Asian ads in Winnipeg are fake.
 
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