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Lurker21

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Racism is rooted in systemic oppression. Go cry in the corner sad little white man.
"systemic oppressions" exists against white people, and only white people. In hiring practices from the highest levels of government to the lowest, in the education from grade school to university, in set asides and special privileges afforded to non-whites, to open discrimination from white idiots that look at every other ethnic group permitted to lobby for their race, and yet if a white guy does the same thing they are called a "white superracist" and lose their jobs, their friends and their social standing.

So yes, cry a river for white people. Or at least grow a brain and observe the world around you as it is.
 

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"systemic oppressions" exists against white people, and only white people. In hiring practices from the highest levels of government to the lowest, in the education from grade school to university, in set asides and special privileges afforded to non-whites, to open discrimination from white idiots that look at every other ethnic group permitted to lobby for their race, and yet if a white guy does the same thing they are called a "white superracist" and lose their jobs, their friends and their social standing.

So yes, cry a river for white people. Or at least grow a brain and observe the world around you as it is.
This is just us trying to even out past injustice. Read a book
 
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"systemic oppressions" exists against white people, and only white people. In hiring practices from the highest levels of government to the lowest, in the education from grade school to university, in set asides and special privileges afforded to non-whites, to open discrimination from white idiots that look at every other ethnic group permitted to lobby for their race, and yet if a white guy does the same thing they are called a "white superracist" and lose their jobs, their friends and their social standing.

So yes, cry a river for white people. Or at least grow a brain and observe the world around you as it is.
One thing I noticed when applying for bursaries and grants, is there is a hell of a lot of funding out there for certain oppressed minorities.. just an observation...
 
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Lurker21

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This is just us trying to even out past injustice. Read a book
So some African who has never been oppressed in Canada walks across the border illegally, and is entitled to all sorts of special benefits and privileges that are denied to white people, and this is "evening out injustice"?

Give your head a shake. You should learn to read books first. And I don't mean the ones with pictures in them, I mean real books.

Today, for example is "Orange Shirt Day". Gee, the poor dear had to conform to a dress code, (just like white kids) and all of a sudden they get yet another day to pretend to be a victim, with accompanying large check. It's outright racist bullshit, and it really must end.
 

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One thing I noticed when applying for bursaries and grants, is there is a hell of a lot of funding out there for certain oppressed minorities.. just an observation...
Universities limit the amount of white males that can attend to a small percentage. They do this by setting aside percentages of enrollment for "minorities" and for women. This, too, is outright racist bullshit.

And try to set aside a bursary for white males, and see what happens.
 

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So some African who has never been oppressed in Canada walks across the border illegally, and is entitled to all sorts of special benefits and privileges that are denied to white people, and this is "evening out injustice"?

Give your head a shake. You should learn to read books first. And I don't mean the ones with pictures in them, I mean real books.

Today, for example is "Orange Shirt Day". Gee, the poor dear had to conform to a dress code, (just like white kids) and all of a sudden they get yet another day to pretend to be a victim, with accompanying large check. It's outright racist bullshit, and it really must end.
People like you scare the shit out of me. I used to date a black dude and let me tell you, he was oppressed EVERY. DAY. The way he was treated was insane. From people crossing the street to avoid him to getting asked for a ticket on public transit before anyone else to not getting jobs. For sure, after generations of (and continued) racism towards minorities, we should give them equal (and yes I do say equal because that’s what’s finally slowly starting to happen) opportunities. I think you’re just scared of people who aren’t white being successful and that makes me sad.
 
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Lurker21

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People like you scare the shit out of me. I used to date a black dude and let me tell you, he was oppressed EVERY. DAY. The way he was treated was insane. From people crossing the street to avoid him to getting asked for a ticket on public transit before anyone else to not getting jobs. For sure, after generations of (and continued) racism towards minorities, we should give them equal (and yes I do say equal because that’s what’s finally slowly starting to happen) opportunities. I think you’re just scared of people who aren’t white being successful and that makes me sad.
Blacks get preferential hiring treatment for jobs. Even unqualified blacks. This is preferential, not equal treatment. And gee, the poor dear was asked to show a ticket. The Horror!

Everyone must know by now you are a congenital liar.
 

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Referring to black people as “blacks” just shows how inherently problematic your opinions are. Is it fucking 1950? Jesus Christ my guy.

and yes just because we live in a system that has historically and continues to discriminate against minorities does not mean minorities cannot succeed. It is rarer though because of things like residential schools, ghettoisation, difficulties in having access to or being recognised in academic settings, and a lack of role models to aspire to emulate. Things are changing slowly and I can’t imagine people who don’t look forward to more diverse, equal representation everywhere. To disagree with wanting that is simply saying you prefer whiteness and that’s *jazz hands* racist.

anecdotal experience does not negate proven trends and statistics.
 

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To say that racism doesnt exist is laughable , to start....to say that a black SP has to see black pooners is ridiculous. We still live in a country of free choice, people. There are a lot of good arguments here but really, I doubt that an SP would turn down customers due to race unless it meant that it might be harmful for her. It is probably a difficult decision, but as was pointed out earlier , people die because of this shit. That should never happen
 

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This is just us trying to even out past injustice. Read a book
While I don't necessarily agree or disagree with affirmative action (another can of worms), I don't agree that trying to "even out" injustices is the right logic to take. Two wrongs don't make a right.

To those crying about this "systemic oppression against white males": biases are incredibly, incredibly difficult to measure. Racial quotas fill a best effort to undo these biases. Are they perfect? Hardly, but they are a starting point.
 

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Referring to black people as “blacks” just shows how inherently problematic your opinions are. Is it fucking 1950? Jesus Christ my guy.

and yes just because we live in a system that has historically and continues to discriminate against minorities does not mean minorities cannot succeed. It is rarer though because of things like residential schools, ghettoisation, difficulties in having access to or being recognised in academic settings, and a lack of role models to aspire to emulate. Things are changing slowly and I can’t imagine people who don’t look forward to more diverse, equal representation everywhere. To disagree with wanting that is simply saying you prefer whiteness and that’s *jazz hands* racist.

anecdotal experience does not negate proven trends and statistics.
Calling black people blacks is racist??? If it was 1950 I would refer to blacks the same way Martin Luther King did, which was a neutral term that is no longer in favor. A term, BTW, no different than Caucasian or Asian, until idiot activists made it otherwise.

As an experiment ( and you can repeat this yourself) I entered the term "no black" into the search engine on Leolist Vancouver. For TODAY and only today, it returned 85 separate profiles. And the day is not over. The SP's were Caucasian, mixed, Asian, Hispanic, East Indian and black. Around 20% black. Do you really think all these SP are racist, or are there some other experiences they have had that cause them to set boundaries this way?

Are you sure you want to start talking about statistics? You will be very unhappy with the results if you went down that path.

To say that racism doesnt exist is laughable , to start....to say that a black SP has to see black pooners is ridiculous. We still live in a country of free choice, people. There are a lot of good arguments here but really, I doubt that an SP would turn down customers due to race unless it meant that it might be harmful for her. It is probably a difficult decision, but as was pointed out earlier , people die because of this shit. That should never happen
I'm not sure who your post is directed at, but I certainly never suggested anything like what you are stating. But since you doubt an SP would turn down customers because of race, maybe you can hazard an explanation as to why the 85 SP's on leolist in Vancouver today have "No Blacks" in their ads. Including at least 20 black SP's.
While I don't necessarily agree or disagree with affirmative action (another can of worms), I don't agree that trying to "even out" injustices is the right logic to take. Two wrongs don't make a right.

To those crying about this "systemic oppression against white males": biases are incredibly, incredibly difficult to measure. Racial quotas fill a best effort to undo these biases. Are they perfect? Hardly, but they are a starting point.
If these biases are hard to measure, then why do racial quotas exist in the first place?

And open racial hostility towards white people is everywhere in Canada, and codified into law. See Section 15.2 of the Constitution, or the Employment Equity Act. Or that fatuous idiot Assistant PM Chrystia Freeland trying to have white people declared a Global Threat at the UN. Or the aforementioned discrimination against white people in education, hiring, and open hostility to white history.

As was discussed with Miss Hunter above, even though grants and bursaries are available everywhere SPECIFICALLY for non white people, try to start a grant specifically for white people, and let me know the results.

Then tell me against that there is no open discrimination and oppression of white people in Canada.
 

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This is the type of attitude and behaviour that is problematic in our current world.

Charlee is correct in that he’s just afraid that other ethnicities, or women are going to start “taking jobs”, Or “school placements“ etc, that he thinks should only be for “white men”.

Lurker21 is probably upset that the Chinese are coming to Vancouver and buying up all the properties and houses in “his neighborhood”.

At least the Chinese are paying for the land. Did you not remember how back in the day, your great ancestors came over here and handled out blankets with small pox. Real, true gentlemen.

So some African who has never been oppressed in Canada walks across the border illegally, and is entitled to all sorts of special benefits and privileges that are denied to white people, and this is "evening out injustice"?

Give your head a shake. You should learn to read books first. And I don't mean the ones with pictures in them, I mean real books.

Today, for example is "Orange Shirt Day". Gee, the poor dear had to conform to a dress code, (just like white kids) and all of a sudden they get yet another day to pretend to be a victim, with accompanying large check. It's outright racist bullshit, and it really must end.
 

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This is the type of attitude and behaviour that is problematic in our current world.

Charlee is correct in that he’s just afraid that other ethnicities, or women are going to start “taking jobs”, Or “school placements“ etc, that he thinks should only be for “white men”.

Lurker21 is probably upset that the Chinese are coming to Vancouver and buying up all the properties and houses in “his neighborhood”.

At least the Chinese are paying for the land. Did you not remember how back in the day, your great ancestors came over here and handled out blankets with small pox. Real, true gentlemen.
Ok.....first of all, blankets intentionally laced with the Small Pox virus is complete bullshit.
In the time your speaking of, they didn’t understand how Viruses spread, they thought it was from bad air....they did understand that close proximity to an infected person may have made you sick.
The blankets where manufactured in Europe, and it took 6 to 8 weeks to sail them over.
If you think about it, the virus would have to be obtained here in North America, which wouldn’t have been hard to find.....but the people handling the blankets would have to occupy a village, or individual that was infected, then transport the blankets carrying the virus by wagon, to another population.....without being infected themselves, ( they where not immune btw) ....and surviving week long wagon rides, while carrying the infection laced wool product.

The fact is that infected blankets are most likely a myth, and the Small Pox virus was transferred by the Traders themselves....to a population who‘s genetics couldn’t even begin to fight the infection.
Once the Virus took hold in the Aboriginal villages.....sadly, it’s death rate was 90%
There was absolutely no understanding in the Colonial era, how viruses transmitted within populations....
The First Nations had an efficient system when it came to trading, and wool blankets where a valuable commodity....the myth is that they where intentionally infected as a biological weapon to depopulate.....yet if you talk to historians here in the interior, you can track the Small Pox trail and decimation via Native Trading routes, and into areas that no Caucasian trader had yet been.
It was spread from village to village unintentionally by everyone, Native and non-Native.

Jeffery Amhurst tried it in Pennsylvania, I believe in the 1700’s as a military tactic....it didn’t work as far as the official documents show.
Smallpox was everywhere, travelling throughout North America.....it didn’t need any help killing people.
 
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Lurker21

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This is the type of attitude and behaviour that is problematic in our current world.

Charlee is correct in that he’s just afraid that other ethnicities, or women are going to start “taking jobs”, Or “school placements“ etc, that he thinks should only be for “white men”.

Lurker21 is probably upset that the Chinese are coming to Vancouver and buying up all the properties and houses in “his neighborhood”.

At least the Chinese are paying for the land. Did you not remember how back in the day, your great ancestors came over here and handled out blankets with small pox. Real, true gentlemen.
This post is perfect. An absolutely perfect example how fabricated history has been weaponized into Hate Whitey bullshit. And about how government enforced anti-white racial preferences has something to do with "fear" rather than fact. So is Charlee's response bawling about imaginary "white supremacy", when she is unable to to point to anything I wrote that is not true and accurate. All of which points out that there is no such thing as "white supremacy" in Canada, there is only the opposite. So to Charlie, pointing out the facts about how white people are openly discriminated against is "white Supremacy".

No one handed out smallpox blankets to anyone. That is one great big fat Hate Whitey Lie. What actually happened is that during the French and Indian war the French and their Indian allies laid siege to Fort William Henry. After considerable fighting, the British agreed to surrender and disarm themselves under French protection. However, since the Indians did not make war that way, they were outraged that they could not take slaves and the spoils of war. So the Indians began to attack the unarmed British men, women and children, massacring and scalping close to 1,500 of them.

The Indians then invaded the abandoned Fort William Henry, and murdered and scalped all the men in the infirmary. They also proceeded to dig up and scalp all the recently dead in the burial plot. Unfortunately for the Indians, the men in sick bay and the people who had recently died all died of smallpox. So in carrying the scalps back to their camp the Indians brought live smallpox with them, and killed half their tribe.

It wasn't just the British who were disgusted by this savage behavior, (including eating their enemy) the French troops refused to fight alongside their "allies" any longer. So it was in this context that Amherst wrote his letter wondering whether or not the smallpox that had proven so effective in wiping out these butchers might be deliberately used against them.

But it simply did not happen. Instead we have low information Hate Whitey Idiots who parade this around as if this fantastic lie is a "fact". And worse, this idiocy is taught to helpless school children.

Now, every single word I wrote is completely correct and extremely well documented. The problem is that you Hate Whitey idiots will find these facts so unnerving that even mainstream summaries like the Wiki entry linked below will be considered "white Supremacist".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_William_Henry
 

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This post is perfect. An absolutely perfect example how fabricated history has been weaponized into Hate Whitey bullshit. And about how government enforced anti-white racial preferences has something to do with "fear" rather than fact. So is Charlee's response bawling about imaginary "white supremacy", when she is unable to to point to anything I wrote that is not true and accurate. All of which points out that there is no such thing as "white supremacy" in Canada, there is only the opposite. So to Charlie, pointing out the facts about how white people are openly discriminated against is "white Supremacy".

No one handed out smallpox blankets to anyone. That is one great big fat Hate Whitey Lie. What actually happened is that during the French and Indian war the French and their Indian allies laid siege to Fort William Henry. After considerable fighting, the British agreed to surrender and disarm themselves under French protection. However, since the Indians did not make war that way, they were outraged that they could not take slaves and the spoils of war. So the Indians began to attack the unarmed British men, women and children, massacring and scalping close to 1,500 of them.

The Indians then invaded the abandoned Fort William Henry, and murdered and scalped all the men in the infirmary. They also proceeded to dig up and scalp all the recently dead in the burial plot. Unfortunately for the Indians, the men in sick bay and the people who had recently died all died of smallpox. So in carrying the scalps back to their camp the Indians brought live smallpox with them, and killed half their tribe.

It wasn't just the British who were disgusted by this savage behavior, (including eating their enemy) the French troops refused to fight alongside their "allies" any longer. So it was in this context that Amherst wrote his letter wondering whether or not the smallpox that had proven so effective in wiping out these butchers might be deliberately used against them.

But it simply did not happen. Instead we have low information Hate Whitey Idiots who parade this around as if this fantastic lie is a "fact". And worse, this idiocy is taught to helpless school children.

Now, every single word I wrote is completely correct and extremely well documented. The problem is that you Hate Whitey idiots will find these facts so unnerving that even mainstream summaries like the Wiki entry linked below will be considered "white Supremacist".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_William_Henry

https://vancouversun.com/news/local...f-b-c-apologizes-to-indo-canadian-colleagues/
This is not even history, it happened only a few years ago.

If you like Wikipedia articles I am posting a couple of incidents in Canadian History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komagata_Maru_incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Oriental_riots_(Vancouver)
 
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I have also been accused of being a "racist apologist" for being vocal about supporting other ladies freedom of choice. But IGAF. I have a very thick skin.

Without a thick skin, this line of work would have destroyed me years ago. This industry can be quite gritty at times. The root of the reason why I feel freedom of choice is so important. Everyones story and experiences are different. Just let the SPs run their business in whichever way works for them.
Everyone in this world has a thick skin, everyone justifies their choice and you are neither different nor special. Your experiences or opinions don't make you more right.

Your logic can then be applied to any business where people could say they only serve people of certain ethnicity.
Have you ever heard how the Britishers had sign boards outside European clubs in British India saying "Dogs and Indians Not Allowed".

People who believe White people are the only people who don't hate other races and only other races conspire against them are bunch of self righteous buffoons.
 
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