Asian MP are going to put Escorts out of business

[JoeDick]

Look at your boss and your company while you work in your little downtown office. My company charges clients $65 an hour for my services. Do I make $65 an hour, not hardly, I make $28, then they take out money for other things, taxes, insurance, etc. I net about $20 an hour

My Income 20 divided by 65 = 30% my net take home

Micro Girl Income 100 divided by 140 = 71% her net take home

The Micro girl is netting more and her employer is netting less than us upright educated citiziens in our little companies.

Don't be a foolish bleeding heart and feel sorry for these people. They know what they do and have chosen to be there. Sure it is big business and some of the biggest crooks in this world are the large corporate ceo's who trample and walk on the backs of their employees on a daily bases. We all have our "Bosses".

Is my boss or my company a bad employer because he peddles me on the street for $65 while only giving me $28 and then deducting other misc fees so I actually only make $20?

I don't think so, I am there because I choose to be and make the best of it until a better opportunity comes along.

 

[Ghostwalker]

Taipan.......

Taipan....you seem like a decent guy and I can't vigorously dissagree with you..... generally..... regarding a micro run by mamasan....mamasans, as I understand, for the most part are somewhat if not altogether maternal with respect to their SPs and treat them with consideraton if not a consideration mitgated by a little self-interest....


....Its the papasans that I think are most likely problematic.. and where there can be a signficiant opportunity for a repressive atmosphere where the girls are constructive prisoners.....

In fact whether the place is run by a mamasan or papasan is one of the factors LE use to determine if the micro is a compelling target for an investigation

Anybody who patronizes any establishment where the woman are virtual prisoners are no better than the pimps who run the place.

 

[MustardMan]

JoeDick,

Thanks for that analogy! My sentiments exactly.

The difference btw a corporate Ho (most of the guys here) and a Ho Ho is that a Ho Ho makes more money for less work and usually gets treated better. LOL!

Believe me, in my life as a corporate Ho dealing with corporate Pimps (management) and other corporate Ho's, I have found my experiences with Ho Ho's to be refreshingly more real and genuine transactions in an all too often fake, confused, unrealistic society where everyone is trying to tell us what we should and should not do.

Save your "abused sex slave immigrant" myths for the femnazi pandering mass media looking for headlines that sell papers.

Leilani,

I just checked out your pictures and bio. I guess the Hawaiian/Chinese thing helps so your lucky to have a niche. If I was able to make money having sex with women I would try charge as much as possible too but I woudn't price myself out of the market.

All I am saying is a that in my extensive experience I have found that the most expensive providers generally give the poorest quality service. I guess it is just human nature. The longer the girls are in the business the less enthusiastic they are, the more money they want, and the less time and effort they want to put into it. If a girl is fairly new but really hot she will quickly get the attitude that her pussy is made of gold and the service just goes to shit. No matter how you look at it, the more money involved the poorer the service IMHO. As a well informed, experienced, discriminating customer these girls won't get my money. I just wish there were more guys like me around so these girls wouldn't try charge as much.

 

[Tuna]

All this slavery BS is generally perpetuated by the high priced SPs to protect their business. Let's get real. SPs are not sex maniacs who love having sex with dozens of average older men a week. They're in it for the fast easy money & the longer they're in the biz, the more jaded they become. It's not their fault, it's the nature of this biz. I'll give you an example. I've seen this SP off & on for the last 4-5 years. She's quite famous & I've seen her prices go from $180 to $300 in that period. Her service hasn't gotten any better & she sure has aged & gotten jaded over the years. When she 1st began to escort she advertised as a 22 year old university student. Now this is 4-5 years ago. Recently her ad mentions that she's now a 20 year old university student. I saw her a month ago & said "happy birthday" jokingly. When she asked me why, I said she went from 22 to 20 since the last time I saw her. She then went on an angry tirade as how she's "forced" to do this since micros are screwing up her customer base & that it's all underaged slave labour etc etc etc. It was really quite sad to see this. Here was a late 20s SP, lying about her age, charging $300 an hr giving the same serivce she was at $180 4-5 years ago & she's telling me she's "forced" to lie because the micros are "forcing" her to do so. That really ruined the mood for me & after the session I decided this was my last time with her. I mean, why pay $300 when I can get the same serivce with a younger girl for 1/2 the price. This concerned SP thinking of her sisters in distress BS is nothing more than them being scared of competiton.

 

[dualwingz]

Doesn't matter whether they are called micros or escorts, the bottom line is they are SPs.

I'm sure some micros are controlled by gansters and treat the girls poorly. However, I'm sure some escorts out there are controlled by gansters as well.

What really matter is who operate the business and whether the girl get what they think she should get. If a girl don't mind providing the service for $100, that's their decisions. If she think she should charge $300, that her decision as well.

I don't believe the escort SP will report all their income to the goverment, right?? So in both case, they are breaking the laws in Canada.

As I said before, the micro are not forcing the escort out of business. If you think your services worth $300, then go ahead and charge it as long as someone is willing to pay. It is a fair trade, so the market will determine the price.

Just like the mp business. For example, mp like Madame Cleo can still charge $300-$400 per session while the AMP can be as low as $160 a session. They've been co-exist for ages.

 

[CallMeJack]

Doesn't matter whether they are called micros or escorts, the bottom line is they are SPs.

I'm sure some micros are controlled by gansters and treat the girls poorly. However, I'm sure some escorts out there are controlled by gansters as well.

What really matter is who operate the business and whether the girl get what they think she should get. If a girl don't mind providing the service for $100, that's their decisions. If she think she should charge $300, that her decision as well.

I don't believe the escort SP will report all their income to the goverment, right?? So in both case, they are breaking the laws in Canada.

As I said before, the micro are not forcing the escort out of business. If you think your services worth $300, then go ahead and charge it as long as someone is willing to pay. It is a fair trade, so the market will determine the price.

Just like the mp business. For example, mp like Madame Cleo can still charge $300-$400 per session while the AMP can be as low as $160 a session. They've been co-exist for ages.

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I share the same view as you.

 

[Sonny]

An accountant's breakdown of a massage store goes like this. The owner gets $40 to $50 for room rental. If the day is decent 15 customers will render $600 to $750 per day. He pays inflated rent, utilities, advertising, cleaning, towels & supplies and more as well as the taxman. A poor day of 6 to 8 customers may get him as low as $240 for the day. The service he gives is providing a clean, safe and convenient place for girls and customers to hook up without the trials of appointments - surely worth a return. He also has a purchase investment to recover. So much for the myth of the middleman getting all the cash. The girl will make $100-$140 per customer, at 3 to 6 customers a day she can get as much as $840. Typically the girls make $10,000 to $25,000 per month clean and no sight of the taxman. So who gets the cash? SPs are supposed to be extra attractive women providing superior interactive service at a deservedly raised rate, which is sometimes true and sometimes not. Now, micros are a mixed bag of a lot of things, often criminal (don't fool yourself with wishful thinking) with the girl getting very little (mamasan or papasan makes no difference) but some are of course not. Class is now recessed.

 

[asian dragon]

There may be micros out there that are run by gangsters but most are probably not. The ones that I have been to, the girls are free to come and go. If the rate is i.e. $.40, the house gets .40 room charge and the rest goes to the girl. Are there slave type micros out there, definitely, but not all.
Just my 2 bits worth.

 

[leilani_luv]

just to clarify things.im not saying all micros are the same.some of the girls are trapped and only getting room and board or just 20 -40 dollars as there cut.some have to pay of a big debt for being smuggled here illegally.some get promised that they will be brought to canada to be a waitress,nanny,or even to study english or go to university.they get told that women have rights in canada and they can go to school and get an education and get good high paying jobs do something with their lives.but instead some are forced to prostitute and told if they tell le they will be deported back to asia or even get death threats towards them and their famalies.

if you guys dont think stuff like this happens.you are wrong.i know from experience.it just doesnt happen to just fresh off the boat asian girls.it happens to underage canadian asian girls to.

 

[asian dragon]

This type of thing does happen to all areas of SP's. Just look at the low track. You get these young girls hooked on various drugs and are forced to prostitution to pay for their habit. Their pimp/boyfriends beat them if they do not make enough money. Not much difference to what happens to some of the asian girls.

 

[leilani_luv]

tuna,i wouldnt consider myself a high priced s/p tying to protect my business.like i said before.no asian girl in vancouver looks like me.im one of a kind and proud of it.

your comment about the sp you see on a regular basis.she probably raised her rates because she doesnt want to see as many clients as before maybe shes burnt out and should retire or go on a vacation.

to be honest,this job can really burn out a girl.when i feel burnt out sometimes i take up to a week off and just do whatever i want...nails,hair,massage,clubbing,family,shopping etc...

 

[MYNAMEISJOE]

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[fanichio]

Personally, I think that it's amazingly hippocritical for anyone to say "well, that's no good because they're held as slaves and have no where to go". First of all, we live in a society built on the backs of other people from other countries. Every time you buy a piece of clothing, when was the last time you say "made in canada" or "made in the USA"? No, it's made with slave labour in taiwon. Where did your TV come from...oh, that was the sweat shop in Korea. Where did the beef for your big mac come from? The cattle being raised on cleared parts of the rainforest.

" the micro girls were doing the same business in their home land, I am sure now they have found their customers in North America are much nicer and paying a lot more. Agree?"

I'm thinking that 9 times out of 10, this is the case. This industry is huge back in asia, but do you think they make even a fraction of the money there that they make here? Or that there they are safe? You're talking about countries with totaltarian communist governments that can just kill you for any reason they feel like. And that's the government, nevermind the criminals! I may not be the best job in the world, but as was said above, what percentage of our fees or the amount that our employers make off us do we get? 40%? And then how much more does the bloody government take? 40-50% of that? So altogether, we get 25 or 30 % of what we earn. So we get 25%, and they get 75%, who's the one who needs the sympath again?

 

[crazyhorse]

Permit me to take the low-road view (minus any comments on global/regional morality and humanity issues).

Simply put, I like young, natural SPs in their 20's (any nationality). I've been to Cleo's, the Touch & the Club. I've seen some of the Foxes. There are very few young SPs at these places. Why should I pay $$$ for something I don't want? If I call up a number from the GS or BnS that claims to be in their 20's and aren't, I won't stick around.

My best experiences by far have been at AMPs and Micros. The girls are (in the majority) young, un-altered and best of all attentive. SPs at AMPs and Micros, being Asian and recently imported plays a large part in all these attributes (IMO).

I wish there was a more diverse range of SPs that fit my liking. (I love redheads, but it's not the same when they're Asian.) I also wish I lived in Montreal.

 

[magoomba]

I don't see how girls at a micro or even an AMP can provide the same level of service given that they're probably seeing way more clients and an independent SP. It becomes mechanical and routine. Think assembly line and "Ford-ism".

I suppose if you're lucky and find a girl who's just starting out, she may give you more to get some referral business.

 

[crazyhorse]

I don't see how girls at a micro or even an AMP can provide the same level of service given that they're probably seeing way more clients and an independent SP.

What is meant by "level of service"? I certainly don't care for the fancy DT/YaleTown/beachside locations, I don't think a cold bottle of water is that big a deal and it's all about the deed, right? Well, the AMPs and micros certainly stack up and often exceed in that last department (been to one lately?).

Independents are now charging for the infamous "GFE" of up to $100! If their service is better, why the GFE charge? Have I done something wrong to not deserve GFE? Plus, there seems to be many comments on the board on how varied GFE can be, so once again, you may not get what you paid for. Have you been to a micro where GFE is an extra? They'd be out of business as soon as word got out.

It must be the high cost of WestCoast Living, cause you sure get a lot more in Montreal. Check this site out, it gets updated regularly and I've found it to be pretty accurate.
http://www.sexwork.com/montreal/spreadsheet.html

 

[magoomba]

I should re-word that. I am not referring to the types of service being offered. But more along the lines of how responsive they are to the customer.

I could be wrong, but my impression is that micros see more traffic. Hence the girls would be seeing more customers per day. Therefore, it becomes more of a job and less enjoyable for them.

The whole GFE thing is to try to differentiate between the micros and the independents. We assume that GFE means more friendly interaction, less clock watching, more privacy (obviously), etc.

 

[MustardMan]

crazyhorse,

Yes, Montreal is great. The French really do know a thing or two about hedonism and pleasure! The real gems of the Montreal scene are the French speaking agencies. They tend to have the lowest prices and best attitudes.

Getting a drop dead gorgeous young french only speaking Quebec country girl with a great attitude for $100CDN in the privacy of your own home or hotel room is something you can't even come close to in terms of value for the $ on the Westcoast. You could be damn sure I would learn enough french for that activity if I lived there.

The caucasian SP's in Vancouver really are WAY overpriced on average IMHO.

If your into Asian girls and don't mind the AMP venue then Vancouver does ok.

 

[JoeDick]

Yea Baby Right There!!!! Yea Rub it Baby!!!

Massage and some nice fs in what I consider good service. Many SP don't do massage. The AMP (Asian Massage Parlor) are great all round relaxation, works out several kinks.

 

[MYNAMEISJOE]

In conclusion:

Micros provide the best value...there are pluses and minus but ultimately...........its cheap and this will bring down the market cost for services over all.........no doubt

i am currently scouting richmond....pm me if you know any numbers.that needs to be checkout.

end of story......the hunt continues
Joe