Asian MP are going to put Escorts out of business

williewheeler

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I'm not trying to start a flame war, or even to dis' the guys who like micros and / or AMPs. I like young SPs, be they at a micro or massage joint, or escort service, or an independent. I also like asian girls, but I like caucasian and other ethnicities as well. I just plain like the female gender.

Now, is there any truth to LL's claims about slave labor and the girls being trapped into working to pay off their fee for being brought here? Gotta be. It can't be any different than the sweatshops or other low paying labor we here of these migrants being forced to perform. I am personally familiar with one micro run by a papasan with underworld ties, but his girls were Canadian born asian. However, if I wanted to use the service I made sure I was early in the day - who needs to be the 5th to 10th guy that day? Did the quality of service suffer over time? Yup, you bet. The girls got just plain worn out, but for them it seemed it was more about the money than many of the high priced SPs I've seen. They were there voluntarily sure enough, but in body only, after seeing multiples of the types of guys in this thread who were only concerned about getting their rocks off.

I like having my jollies as much as any guy, but - and maybe this comes with advancing years and/or experience - I enjoy the company of an SP who is a little more selective in the type of clientel she serves and / or the numbers of clientel she is willing to see in one day. I enjoy having the company of someone who can converse at some level of intelligence, someone who "engages" at a level other than just the sexual. So, am I willing to pay a premium for that? Yup, guess I am....

It's interesting to me that LL speaks of being "unique" in looks, so she has nothing to worry about when it comes to competition from the types of establishments discussed here; she didn't say anything about her service or care for her clients. I've not seen LL, so in fairness I won't comment on whether her service is any better or worse than what I might receive for less money elsewhere, but I will repeat that the emphasis she places on the reason why she's not concerned is interesting.

It's also interesting that no other "high priced" SPs have commented in this thread. Perhaps that means they know they provide a service that many, like me, seek and so have little worry about being priced out of the market. Maybe they are afraid of receiving the kind of "heat" that LL has, but that hasn't stopped many of them in the past. Maybe they just don't care. Whatever, it would be interesting to conduct some kind of survey to see if any of them are "suffering" from the competition.

I guess that basically it all just boils down to different strokes for different folks. The high priced massage joints downtown (Cleo's, ST, PC - did I miss any?) don't seem to be going out of business any time soon. Obviously they fill a market need, and I don't think their clientel is exlusively highly paid athletes or tourists; I do know that because of the cost it doesn't include me.

Whether "cost for services over all..." comes down or not is a question that needs more data to answer, but if I were a betting man, my bet would be "NOT!"

just my $0.02
 

leilani_luv

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williwheeler,whoo that was a long post.the reason i only mentioned my looks and not my personality or service is because.i have more than enough positive reviews about me.i guess i just assumed guys in perbland already know im a honest,deliver what i promise kind of sp

as for a flame war,dont worry about it.its not my style.i think everyone is entitled to there opinion
 

Taipan

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The "cost for services" did come down a little bit. But it takes more time and will not happen over night.
Taiwan is one of the 4 Asian dragons. They have a very strong economy.
Thailand and Philippines and many other poorer countries have sweat shops.
 

williewheeler

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Taipan:

I'm interested in your assertion the "cost for services" did come down. Can you fill us in? Where did they come down, at the micros and AMPs competing against each other, or are you aware of a higher priced SP (like LL or others) who has lowered her price because she's lost business to these cheaper places?

Facts, man, we need facts!
 

Taipan

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Everybody has loss business because of the micros.
Even the AMP has loss business to the micros.
The AMP prices has come down a bit and it's easier to bargain with them.
The micros are competing with other micros by lowering their prices $10 cheaper.
 

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Wow.... Gosh I learned so much by going through this thread, who needs to take Economics in the College or University.

Right here we have example of "Supply, Demand and Competition etc" good example of Micro-Economics

Than we have this labour being supplied in the international market etc and how it affect North America excellent sample of Macro - Economics.

Than one SP, well using propoganda rather than negative advertisement, trying to ask us the pooners to avoid them for all the reason how we are contributing to slavery etc.

I think you should become spokesperson for all those oil leaking corporations, rather than we semen leaking guys, I think we are less harm to the enviroment and human kind than what all these corporation do.

I got a kick from reading this thread... I remembered Kasey Kaseem saying from the the capital of capitalism Washington DC here's America's Top 40 this was like 15 years ago when I heared radio back in my country on AM band.

Folks do not forget we are in the Capitalist Society , Laissez Faire Economy.
 

williewheeler

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Taipan:

Your response was noticeably lacking "facts" - what you gave us was further general assertions:
"Everybody"? Don't think so....
Micros competing by "lowering prices $10"? Now that's a REAL saving; let's you buy an extra pack of smokes or maybe a couple of beers. Would you really go to one micro over another because of a $10 difference, even if it meant seeing someone who is less attractive, older, or gives poorer service?
"Even the AMP has loss business to the micros." Really? Can you name a single AMP establishment that has experienced this loss, or is it just that you have stopped frequenting AMPs in favor of micros?

Hey, I'm not trying to hassle you Taipan, just looking to get the straight skinny. After all, I would rather pay less for my fav SP too; so if the price really is coming down, I'll wait a little while... but I'm not holding my breath in hopes it will happen!:rolleyes:
 

Taipan

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williewheeler

I guess you're not Chinese and not getting bargains like we are.
Young, fresh, firm Chinese girls for less than $150.
And no room fees charges.

You must be a promoter for the high priced girls!
 

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$10 here, $20 there is not the issue. $$$ vs $.5 is.
Like all good economies, there is a best price for everything. A point where the buyer doesn't feel ripped off and the seller is happy. Personnally, I don't want to see micro prices drop too far, if it does, then you'll start seeing really crappy service everywhere you go.

OK, Taiwan and Korean may not have slave labour or sweat shops, but unless your the mob or a corporate bigwig, you make squat compared to what the girls get at the micros/amps here.
1 loonie = ~27 Taiwan dollars
1 loonie = ~230 Korean dollars
You do the math.
 

Sonny

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Crazyhorse, you are way, way, way out there. How about when the CAD dollar was 1200 Italian lire (in the pre-Euro days)? Italians then made diddly according to your logic. Unless you have a degree in Ec and it's plain you do not, it's better to leave the room on this one.

You are correct, tho', that girls that make nothing give nothing. However, the AMPs are not affected by micros because generally the customer base is different, just as the SP market is unaffected by the micros or AMPs as those with more $ are not influenced by price but rather by the particular experience of the SP. It's called market segmentation, and it can be seen everywhere.

As for Taipan, $140 will get you attentive FS in an AMP, room included - without mentally counting the 10 guys who did the micro girl that day before you got there (or the hundred the week before, etc. etc.), and race or culture has nothing to do with it.
 

MYNAMEISJOE

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sonny..your wrong... asian girls in micros and AMP do make a good living earning about $100/30 minutes of services.


How Do I know this.......I ask monica in the joyce micro.

the hunt continues
Joe
 

Sonny

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I didn't say girls in micros and AMPs don't make money. I said that if micros moved to lower and lower prices, then I agree that girls who see their income go down are less enthused about their work. Also, I said I don't see micros affecting AMPs or SPs in any significant way, due to the different customer bases. Asian girls in AMPs make good money and I do not see that changing.
 

Bubba Mac

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Taipan is correct about prices dropping in the amp business. Two years ago sp's were demanding and receiving $.80 plus, now the average is around $.40
 

Taipan

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Sonny

I know you probably own an AMP.
The girls at the micros does the same amount of guys per day compared to the AMP girls.
So you're saying $140 at the AMP gets me FS and the room fee included?
That means the prices at the AMP has come down.
Race has a lot to do with the prices because the Asian girls knows we Asian guys know the prices of FS and will only pay so much.
The customer base is different at the AMP because non-Asian cannot get into these cheaper micros.
 

dualwingz

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There may be possibility that the services of the AMP may go up.

The reason is in order to compete with micros, the AMP (or Escort) girls may provide better service to let the customers think that it is worth to spent extra cash.

One "add value" that AMP provides is "true" massage (for some girls) which the micro girls tent to skip.




Sonny said:
I didn't say girls in micros and AMPs don't make money. I said that if micros moved to lower and lower prices, then I agree that girls who see their income go down are less enthused about their work. Also, I said I don't see micros affecting AMPs or SPs in any significant way, due to the different customer bases. Asian girls in AMPs make good money and I do not see that changing.
 

MustardMan

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Guys,

Like the other poster said. We are not talking $ vs $.5. We are talking $ vs $$$!

Someone show me a provider who charges $$$ that is actually worth 3x or even 2x more than any one of MANY good AMP providers. "You get what you pay for" may apply to a LOT of things but whoremongering is NOT one of the.

There are good and bad AMP providers and good and bad high priced escorts but on average the value for dollar is WAY higher for AMP providers.
 

MYNAMEISJOE

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i can't believe the number of views of this topic Asian MP........

over 4000 looks wow


the search continues
joe
 

williewheeler

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Re: williewheeler

Taipan said:
I guess you're not Chinese and not getting bargains like we are.
Young, fresh, firm Chinese girls for less than $150.
And no room fees charges.

You must be a promoter for the high priced girls!
Brilliant argument Taipan! Because you cannot give actual real examples, you make an assertion (again with no facts to support it) that I am not Chinese, and that I am a promoter for higher priced girls.

Gawd, with logic skills like that, it's no wonder you are able to talk the girls into $10 off!:eek:
 

Sonny

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Nah, I do not own an AMP but I chat with owners. As for prices, when I was in Toronto, I was paying $30 for a room and $100 - $120 for FS and this was back in 1997! Maybe the prices were much higher in BC before I moved out here a couple of years ago - I don't know. Since my arrival in BC I have been paying $100 to $140 to the girl on top of room all the time, depending on the heat factor of the girl and the quality of service provided. As yes, I have been at 'cheaper' micros, particularly the one that was in the apartment building (2nd floor I think) on 71st near Oak.
 
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