Are you stuck in Vancouver or love it here?

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I hate the city I live in, can't leave due to not enough $$$. I feel its very dirty, crowded, traffic up the butt, lousy weather 8 months out of the year. Only nice thing is ______ let me get back to you.
Its home of the lousy baseball team Mariners.
 

vancity_cowboy

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i hate living in a city but my career demands it. i've had plenty of time to break out of that mold but i've lacked the balls
 

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I hate the city I live in, can't leave due to not enough $$$. I feel its very dirty, crowded, traffic up the butt, lousy weather 8 months out of the year. Only nice thing is ______ let me get back to you.
Its home of the lousy baseball team Mariners.
Stuck. Vancouver is my official Canadian residence in order to maintain citizenship, tax status and health care. Moving to another Province would require interrupting my treatment. When I'm healthy, I'll look at where I actually want to live. Probably Toronto as that's where many of my family live. I can't go back to China because I doubt if I could get a Doctor to sign off on a statement that I won't cost the Chinese system any money.

It's looking like I have become retired from what I do. There aren't going to be any pipelines built in BC and Shell has now put the LNG project on the back burner (actually the unlit one that doesn't work). Christie must be overjoyed.
 

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I hate the city I live in, can't leave due to not enough $$$. I feel its very dirty, crowded, traffic up the butt, lousy weather 8 months out of the year. Only nice thing is ______ let me get back to you.
Its home of the lousy baseball team Mariners.
Born here, lived in Calgary for a time, traveled extensively throughout Australasia, lived in Perth WA, traveled throughout Northern Europe and still, home is where the heart is for me.

Couldn't go back to 9 months of winter in Calgary.
Could live in Perth :thumb:

Things I like a lot about being in Vancouver is I can go to the Island for a quick getaway or up to my place in the Okanagan. The city is awesome to live in especially when people leave the city on long weekends. Cycling around the park or false creek or hanging out at dog parks.

So much to do but it really is getting insanely expensive now.
 

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Look left. Way left.
Stuck. Vancouver is my official Canadian residence in order to maintain citizenship, tax status and health care. Moving to another Province would require interrupting my treatment. When I'm healthy, I'll look at where I actually want to live. Probably Toronto as that's where many of my family live. I can't go back to China because I doubt if I could get a Doctor to sign off on a statement that I won't cost the Chinese system any money.

It's looking like I have become retired from what I do. There aren't going to be any pipelines built in BC and Shell has now put the LNG project on the back burner (actually the unlit one that doesn't work). Christie must be overjoyed.
Sorry to hear about your problems. I wish you the best with your health.
 

apl16

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Look left. Way left.
Kinda stuck. Would move elsewhere if my profession allowed it. Maybe when oil industry gets better. I will move to much better place when finances allow it.

Bad drivers. Bad traffic. Rude people. Ugly city. Too expensive. No culture. Too far from any civilized cities. As one foreign friend says "gotta get on a plane for 4 hours to get any where". Horribly corrupt government that makes many third world places look good. Intellectual desert. Educational and healthcare systems declining.

Area has some great parks, ocean, beaches, and nature in general. I do like the the island but this ferry shit is ridiculous. Build an effing bridge already!

If not for career and few close friends, I'd be long gone.
 

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I was born and raised in Vancouver, and lived there until I was 30+. I moved to a more rural part of B.C. many years ago and have no desire to return to living in the city.

I have spent time in many other cities in North and South America, but if I were compelled to live in a city again, it would be either Vancouver or Victoria.
 

westwoody

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Vancouver now is just a hilly version of any generic big ugly city.

I grew up in Vancouver in the sixties, it was great.
Robsonstrasse, little Italy, Chinatown, the docks and shipbuilding areas, the Cambie swing bridge with the barrel factory below...
All those are gone.
Now it's just chock full of snotty yuppie assholes. Jerks who think they are cool because they have too much money.
Stuck up bitches who think their shit doesn't stink because they have designer shoes/purse/Hermes scarf, etc.
Guys who can't drive, racing exotic cars their parents bought for them.
Laughably overpriced and poorly built houses.

Whatever charm it once had is long gone.
 

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Every city has its positives and negatives.

Try living in Winnipeg with 7 months of awful winter weather. :pound:
It is always nice showing up to an incall and being frozen from head to toe. :rolleyes:
 

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I have no idea how any NHL free agent will choose to play in Winnipeg or Calgary or Edmonton. Players usually have lots of money which can buy toys likes nice motorcycles, race bicycles, race cars and those don't do well in snow.
 

PierreCoeur

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Definitely stuck here. There are no jobs back in Ontario that even come close to giving me the salary I earn out here. Vancouver seems to be the land of opportunity. (milk and honey) 5 years ago I was on renewable contract work, when suddenly the company went under because of the economy. I had been earning really good money back there believing life could not be better, no debt, a brand new 3200 square foot one story home with 24 acres with a gorgeous forest, great views, vacations every year and a new car every year. The economy tanked and I was on unemployment insurance thinking my world had come to an end. Same thing happened five years before that too, only I was in debt that time and out of work for several months.

Now I am earning more than double what I earned in Ontario but feeling less secure than I ever felt. I am expecting everything to come crashing down. I said that Vancouver seems to be the land of opportunity (emphasis on "SEEMS") but no place is safe from an economy that could tank on any day. I know all that is very pessimistic but with inflated land values and home prices with foreign investors snapping up condos left and right, leaving them empty and causing values to increase, eventually the real estate market is going to collapse. Then what is everyone going to do. So yes I feel as if I am stuck out in Vancouver and wishing I was back in Ontario.

Believe me every bubble eventually bursts and I would rather be back in Ontario where I have a few friends than be here when that happens. In the meanwhile I will enjoy the big dollars and bank them rather than believe they are going to continue forever.
 

thodisipagal

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Stuck. Vancouver is my official Canadian residence in order to maintain citizenship, tax status and health care. Moving to another Province would require interrupting my treatment. When I'm healthy, I'll look at where I actually want to live. Probably Toronto as that's where many of my family live. I can't go back to China because I doubt if I could get a Doctor to sign off on a statement that I won't cost the Chinese system any money.

It's looking like I have become retired from what I do. There aren't going to be any pipelines built in BC and Shell has now put the LNG project on the back burner (actually the unlit one that doesn't work). Christie must be overjoyed.
Export pipelines are not being built (not just yet), but upstream pipelines are being built in northeast BC all the time in Montney, Liard, and Horn River basins.

I'm stuck in Vancouver. I'd go to Venice, but I hear the SPs there are snotty and do not offer GFE as the hot Vancouver SPs do.
 

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Export pipelines are not being built (not just yet), but upstream pipelines are being built in northeast BC all the time in Montney, Liard, and Horn River basins.

I'm stuck in Vancouver. I'd go to Venice, but I hear the SPs there are snotty and do not offer GFE as the hot Vancouver SPs do.
Upstream pipelines are usually temporary and associated with (these days) with Shale Oil and Gas production. It's not what I do. The field is over populated and there is a lot of churn as companies discover just how marginal the business is.

The Export Pipelines, Keystone, Gateway and Kinder Morgan, aren't going to be built in the near future. All of the potential investment has been pulled back and there really isn't much interest in additional cash burn in the Canadian regulatory environment. I think that if Canada wants Export Pipelines, the Canadian Government will end up having to be the main contractor. Too much money was burned up in futile efforts over the past few years for investment to be attractive again. It's why investment in Refineries is not in the cards, same regulatory environment.

The real solution to having less Carbon dependency is Nuclear Power. Again, the Canadian Government would have to be the prime contractor. BC, because of the Earth Quake profile and the fact that Hydro Electric is easily available is not viable for Nuclear Power. However, the Prairies, Ontario, Quebec and Newfoundland would be good candidates. What Japan proved is that you really can't trust profit driven corporations to impose the maintenance and safety protocols that Nuclear Power requires. Old technology Nuclear Systems that use heat transfer into water are too location dependent. (need access to large bodies of water for their heatsink) Liquid Metal cooling technology is a proven system with a 50 year safety record and doesn't need water. Every unit of heat can be harvested and converted into energy.
 

thodisipagal

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Upstream pipelines are usually temporary and associated with (these days) with Shale Oil and Gas production. It's not what I do. The field is over populated and there is a lot of churn as companies discover just how marginal the business is.

The Export Pipelines, Keystone, Gateway and Kinder Morgan, aren't going to be built in the near future. All of the potential investment has been pulled back and there really isn't much interest in additional cash burn in the Canadian regulatory environment. I think that if Canada wants Export Pipelines, the Canadian Government will end up having to be the main contractor. Too much money was burned up in futile efforts over the past few years for investment to be attractive again. It's why investment in Refineries is not in the cards, same regulatory environment.

The real solution to having less Carbon dependency is Nuclear Power. Again, the Canadian Government would have to be the prime contractor. BC, because of the Earth Quake profile and the fact that Hydro Electric is easily available is not viable for Nuclear Power. However, the Prairies, Ontario, Quebec and Newfoundland would be good candidates. What Japan proved is that you really can't trust profit driven corporations to impose the maintenance and safety protocols that Nuclear Power requires. Old technology Nuclear Systems that use heat transfer into water are too location dependent. (need access to large bodies of water for their heatsink) Liquid Metal cooling technology is a proven system with a 50 year safety record and doesn't need water. Every unit of heat can be harvested and converted into energy.
Upstream pipelines are as temporary or permanent as export pipelines are or will be. Upstream pipelines in NEBC will be their and needed as long as there is gas extraction from the basins. They will be decommissioned only when the gas fields dry up.

Investment is pulled back not because of the regulatory environment; it's because of the plummeting oil and gas prices in the world markets. Energy regulations under NEB actually were streamlined merely three years ago, in 2012. If you want to see example of more onerous regulatory regime, you should look up the BLM's regulatory regime in the US, which split up licensing/leasing and environmental assessment processes into two parallel streams under two separate new agencies after the former MMS agency drew flak after the Deep Water Horizon disaster for managing two conflicting processes under one single agency. Canada's is much friendlier environment.

Markets are and will always be volatile. If you are in the industry, you would remember KM LNG project used to be import project (terminal in Kitimat and pipeline from Kitimat to Summit Lake) when the LNG in Asian countries was cheap. When the Asian prices went up, the KM LNG promoters changed their project from import to export infrastructure (liquifaction plant, instead of the originally conceived gasification plant in Kitimat, and Summit Lake to Kitimat pipeline, instead of the other way around). Shell has delayed final decision not because of the regulatory regime, but because of the low LNG prices.
 
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I hate the city I live in, can't leave due to not enough $$$. I feel its very dirty, crowded, traffic up the butt, lousy weather 8 months out of the year. Only nice thing is ______ let me get back to you.
Its home of the lousy baseball team Mariners.
Dirty and crowded?? How many cities have you been to?
 

Stamkos

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Vancouver now is just a hilly version of any generic big ugly city.

I grew up in Vancouver in the sixties, it was great.
Robsonstrasse, little Italy, Chinatown, the docks and shipbuilding areas, the Cambie swing bridge with the barrel factory below...
All those are gone.
Now it's just chock full of snotty yuppie assholes. Jerks who think they are cool because they have too much money.
Stuck up bitches who think their shit doesn't stink because they have designer shoes/purse/Hermes scarf, etc.
Guys who can't drive, racing exotic cars their parents bought for them.
Laughably overpriced and poorly built houses.

Whatever charm it once had is long gone.
Wow, so much negativity. Feel sorry for you and others who hate it here. Do us all a favour and leave!!

Have travelled all over the world and there isn't a more beautiful city than Vancouver. Always love coming home.
For those of you with the pissed off attitudes, look in the mirror, it's not the city!!!
 

87112

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Dirty and crowded?? How many cities have you been to?
Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Bangkok, St. Petersburg Russia. Mexico City. Wuhan. Hong Kong. NYC, Montreal, Boston, Milwaukee, St. Louis. Minneapolis, LA, SF, Tijuana, Kunming, Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Green Bay. Denver, Ottawa, Jersey City, Miami. Chicago. Las Vegas, Reno. Atlantic City. Philadelphia. Washington DC, Baltimore. Orlando. Houston. Toronto. Buffalo region. Sacramento. Cheyenne Wyoming. El Paso Texas, Ciudad Juarez, Mexico ( once the murder capital of the world, I went during the day)

And a few small towns here and there.

I don't think Spokane, Portland, Victoria, Van counts LOL since its so damm close.
 
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