Are things slowly getting back to normal?

[take8easy]

Are things VERY slowly getting back to normal?

I know it might sound as if I am seeing things but I have been noticing that traffic is slowly getting heavier, especially since this past Friday.

Nice to hear that trends are promising in BC but I am sure we are ways away. I guess just like everyone else, I am waiting for life to get back to normal for me and for those who are going thru tough times.

But obviously the storm will not be over till a vaccine is found and almost everyone has recovered and/or vaccinated.

Being Cautiously Optimistic.

T8E

 

[OneLuckyGuy]

Are things VERY slowly getting back to normal?

I know it might sound as if I am seeing things but I have been noticing that traffic is slowly getting heavier, especially since this past Friday.



But obviously the storm will not be over till a vaccine is found

What if there is no vaccine? Ever wonder why there is no vaccine for HIV? Mainly because the HIV antigenic ( signals that alert the immune system) properties keep morphing so any vaccine becomes redundant before it can be effective. We could have Covid19 around for a long time. I'm hoping what happened with the Spanish flu will happen with Covid19 in that it just died out and never resurfaced and no one can explain why. interesting thing is that the Spanish flu and Covid-19 are both Coronavidae species so maybe they will exit the same way. I too would life to get back to normal.

 

[wetnose]

I think some things will never get back to normal but hopefully change for the better.

Public opinions/legislation toward senior care homes are going to be changed a LOT.

 

[westcoastrider1982]

Also makes you wonder how many people have had covid and recovered with little to no symptoms and are now possibly immune to it? Perhaps this will be a way for it to “die out”?
I’m not a biologist so don’t really know.

The numbers we see only includes the number of people tested.

 

[PuntMeister]

There will be no back to normal.

There won’t even be a new normal (a stable situation with a few tweaks from the old normal)

There will be a New Abnormal. A changing, evolving situation that will bring dramatic changes to work, society, travel, and social gatherings/entertainment. It won’t settle down for years. Even with a vaccine, expect changes upon changes.

We walk through the threshold to a cautious new world.

I hope to see much more appreciation, collaboration, and humanity on the other side.

-Punt.

 

[VanessainVictoria]

I wish! When they re-open my Starbucks I will then consider a return to "normal""

 

[uncleg]

There will be no back to normal.

There won’t even be a new normal (a stable situation with a few tweaks from the old normal)

There will be a New Abnormal. A changing, evolving situation that will bring dramatic changes to work, society, travel, and social gatherings/entertainment. It won’t settle down for years. Even with a vaccine, expect changes upon changes.

We walk through the threshold to a cautious new world.

I hope to see much more appreciation, collaboration, and humanity on the other side.

-Punt.

I doubt it....get the feeling that too many people will be looking to make up for lost time and money, particularly money and they they won't care who they step on to make it up.

 

[Lo-ki]

The virus will be the new common cold that kills you.
There is no vaccine for the common cold that doesn’t kill you.

 

[giddyup]

One thing alarmists need to keep in mind is the mortality rate for Covid is estimated to be about .5% (that's taking into account confirmed cases and those who have had the virus but not tested - asymptomatics and those with very minor symptoms) Personally I can't get too worried about a virus that i have a 99.5% chance of surviving.

Care homes were mentioned above. Did you know that 69 of 103 deaths in BC were in long term care, assisted living facilities So only 34 deaths weren't there I'm not saying the lives of people in those facilities are less valuable than others. Of course not. BUT they aren't mingling in general society. They aren't going to restaurants and concerts and festivals and bars and workplaces etc etc I think the metrics of how ready a jurisdiction is to carry on with life needs to factor in the number of people effected who are or aren't in general society

I'm also not as pessimistic about a drug to treat the virus and a vaccine to prevent it from happening.

Anyway, I for one am going to enjoy the new freedoms that will be coming to us soon in BC and I am not so dystopian to think that we will never have normal life like we did before again. Honestly, if I thought that I would probably off myself THIS life we have now is not worth living. IMHO The expression cure is worse than the disease pops into mind.

Hang in there everyone and look forward to pooning again soon

 

[Lets Review]

I, for one, welcome our new Covid overlords, and look forward to the new reality!

 

[OneLuckyGuy]

And, you're entirely wrong about never returning - H1N1 came back and caused quite a stir in 2009 when it was known as the "Swine Flu" - another pandemic.
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Sorry I beg to differ. H1N1 is phenotypically similar to the Spanish flu but it is not the same virus. They are all related with different variants to SARS and the lesser publicized MERS ( Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome). Virus need a host and once the host is unavailable it just dies out. Happens all the time with regular influenza which is on an annual world wide cycle generally appearing in this part of the world in late fall early winter. Every year it's just a little bit different which is why you need an annual vaccine.

 

[g eazy]

I wish! When they re-open the Starbucks I will then consider a return to "normal""

There are some that are still open...

 

[take8easy]

I wish! When they re-open the Starbucks I will then consider a return to "normal""

I thought some were but only with drive thru.

 

[204fun]

Here in Manitoba they just announced the first phase of their re-opening plan for the Province for May 4th and it's surprisingly extensive considering they just extended the state of emergency in the Province about 2 weeks ago. Almost all retailers are able to re-open with some form of social distancing and restaurant patio's are eligible to re-open as well. I still plan on maintaining my current level of quarantine until the end of May, but this does make me somewhat cautiously optimistic.

 

[VanessainVictoria]

There are some that are still open...

I thought some were but only with drive thru.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. When my neighbourhood Starbucks reopens and I can go back to my morning Starbucks run, then things will be back to normal. Right now I have to take the bus downtown to save on Pandora Starbucks to get an espresso.

 

[giddyup]

There are some that are still open...

Best bean in Vancouver is Milano and I live near the one on Denman Street. Open. Max 2 customers inside at a time, rest of us outside.
I begin each day with a short walk from my home to Milano. Sweet.
It is nice to live near Stanley Park during this nonsense I must say

 

[take8easy]

Yes, traffic is definitely, albeit slightly, busier than it was till about a week ago.

 

[Mikehma]

Count on it not going back to normal until fucking Trudeau has all our guns, complete control,and his UN Security Council seat. Can't think of a Cabinet that I've hated more, and I've seen a lot of them.

 

[Miss Hunter]

Things won't magically return to what they were. Extensive damage has already been done. Countless people have lost their jobs permanently. Sure some people still have jobs to return to but not everyone. Many small businesses have gone out of business permanently. We're going into not just a recession but a depression. It's going to take many years for the economy to heal from this.

The super rich aren't hurt by this, they don't care. If anything they're making more money. And many people (not all but many) in the low income category don't care either because many of those people's benefits have increased.

The middle class are the ones suffering the most.

Imagine working your entire life to build and grow your own business, OR you were running your family's multi-generational business. And now you've lost everything, or are currently at risk of losing everything...

god I sure hope we don't end up with another shutdown this fall/winter.

 

[g eazy]

If anything, this pandemic has shown that everyone is all for hot takes. There's always plenty of blame to go around, and no opinion is heard unless it's from left field.

Things aren't great, but they'll get better. I hope the success of CERB has more people warming to the idea of UBI. We can't simply "fix" this and lose sight of long-term goals (ie. income equality).