Are there more women entering the industry?

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I expect the responses to this question to be largely anecdotal unless there have been some legit studies done: due to the current economic pressures facing individuals (inflation, increases in interest rates, cost of living etc) are there more women entering the industry?

From my limited perspective I'd have to say maybe. Despite all the issues, the difference with this downturn is the employment rate is relatively low which may be diverting the potential increase of new entrants. At the same time I feel there more scammers but again this is just my subjective observation.
 

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I dunno, doesnt seem like it (in vancouver atleast). seems like there were way more escorts before covid , but I could be wrong.

becoming a sugar baby is very popular amongst woman in their early 20s though, and seems to be becoming more popular. the sugar baby route is probably the smarter route to go for younger woman these days.
 

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I thought there were less actually working in the profession.

Although the scammers seem to have multiplied.
Yeah I remember like 4-5 years ago it was so easy to book an SP, especially last minute. and alot more girls were offering quickie rates which is more of my thing if im doing full service.
These days I usually only see SPs for massage with happy ending sessions, and that seems to be a dying niche unfortunately, alot of the independent girls seem to have quit, theres rarely new girls.
If I want full service I just stick to my sugar babies these days, more variety, more options, usually friendlier, hotter and younger girls. and much more reasonable rates.
I hope im wrong, but it seems like the escort industry is dying in vancouver.
 

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I think more money is made by onlyfans, thus being an sp is not as appealing. I do think with the state of the current market more females are having side hustles using their sexuality. Im all about chasing that paper so all the power to those pursuing that money. Nothing sexier than a women with a business brain and the looks to back it up
 

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My impression, no data to back up, is that more ladies are entering the massage business in Victoria. The leolist ad section is strong and, unlike the escort section, seems legit. I attribute the growth to increased price levels and low barriers to entry.
 

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If we were to compare it to during Covid it is definitely higher but pre-covid probably not. There's some agencies but not really not as much as before. Remember there was a while where they were recycling and sharing girls within multiple agencies.

I do think the amount of money girls like Amoranth and Bella Dephine making over 30 million on OnlyFans has made more girls go that route for independence.
 

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Your comment, I'm in agreement. In my view, it seems there are far more touring ladies coming to Vancouver versus local indy ladies, whereas, 15 yrs ago, per say, there were far more local indy ladies on Perb than touring. In my view, anyway. As for Micros, parlous, hard to say. There are a lot of " fake ads so its difficult assessing them. With that being said with micros...With the population increasing, condo high-rises being built at an insane pace. Quite surprised there are not a lot more of those surfacing.

You look at PERB advertising section on a daily bases and you will notice the same ladies on there everyday. New ones.....not much. So, my answer, not so much of an increase imo. I could be wrong however with my view. What I have noticed though.... ONLY FANS sites have mushroomed out of control--- as many have also noted here. Seems like that is new way for ladies. But now, that is becoming overdone, over swamped imho

PS...What I've noticed in regards to PERB, Somehow, Asian - Fever agency has been recruiting quite a bit of new ladies as of late.



I dunno, doesnt seem like it (in vancouver atleast). seems like there were way more escorts before covid , but I could be wrong.

becoming a sugar baby is very popular amongst woman in their early 20s though, and seems to be becoming more popular. the sugar baby route is probably the smarter route to go for younger woman these days.
 
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Since Craigslist was shut down from personal service ads, in my opinion there has been a significant decline in the number of providers in the lower mainland. Along with this Lower amount of providers there also seems to be a general elimination of the mid priced independent service provider. I fully understand and respect a providers right to set their own rate and acknowledge the costs that they incur.
 
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Very few make much on onlyfans. Just like you can’t judge all escorts because a few charge 600-1000/hr.
Getting to the very top takes a huge amount of work behind the scenes, like staging sets and online marketing.
 

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I know quite a few onlyfans girls, they are making like 10-20k a month and they arent even considered huge accounts, if your a hot girl It would pro
Very few make much on onlyfans. Just like you can’t judge all escorts because a few charge 600-1000/hr.
Getting to the very top takes a huge amount of work behind the scenes, like staging sets and online marketing.
Yeah honestly I know girls who have tried onlyfans and failed lol.
but if your a hot, young, fit girl you can make 10-20k a month easy. so that may be why there arent many under the age of 25 escorts these days. The very top onlyfans girls are making crazy money but thats a very small fraction or a percent of girls on there.

that being said, most succesful onlyfans girls have to put their face out there which would negatively affect your career and dating potentials when people find out, so alot of girls wouldnt do it. same with escorting, usually people who know you will find out eventually, I know TONS of girls who go the sugar baby route, it probably is the best way to go for your privacy, but your still running the risk of people finding out about it.
 

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There is a proverbial flood of ladies into "sex work" but not necessarily escorting. As mentioned, online avenues are massive, cam sites, only fans, the online only options are bigger now than they have ever been. For some, it's a gateway into dancing, or FSSW, but not for all. For the top 1-2%, the numbers are super lucrative. for 98% of them, it's a side gig or hustle. For the smart escort, it's excellent advertising and building a fan base. A local SW I follow on IG posted a story of her payouts on OF not long ago, and makes more than most lawyers I know. 40-50K a month. She only now sees the clients she wants to see and her rates for those encounters went from 300 to 1200 per hour in less than a year. She's stated she will be retired and done with it all, with masters degree and 4 million house paid off before she turns 28.

Sugar baby sites are also growing and the hypocrisy at play there is astounding. Nearly all of them 100% facilitate pay for play scenarios, but many rigidly ban anyone who openly mentions or discusses sex for money. Many sugar babies view themselves as above FSSW, even though that's exactly what they are doing.

The smartest of smart are playing all of the angles. They have a sugar daddy or two, they escort and use OF/twitter/cam sites to build their brand.
 

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There is a proverbial flood of ladies into "sex work" but not necessarily escorting. As mentioned, online avenues are massive, cam sites, only fans, the online only options are bigger now than they have ever been. For some, it's a gateway into dancing, or FSSW, but not for all. For the top 1-2%, the numbers are super lucrative. for 98% of them, it's a side gig or hustle. For the smart escort, it's excellent advertising and building a fan base. A local SW I follow on IG posted a story of her payouts on OF not long ago, and makes more than most lawyers I know. 40-50K a month. She only now sees the clients she wants to see and her rates for those encounters went from 300 to 1200 per hour in less than a year. She's stated she will be retired and done with it all, with masters degree and 4 million house paid off before she turns 28.

Sugar baby sites are also growing and the hypocrisy at play there is astounding. Nearly all of them 100% facilitate pay for play scenarios, but many rigidly ban anyone who openly mentions or discusses sex for money. Many sugar babies view themselves as above FSSW, even though that's exactly what they are doing.

The smartest of smart are playing all of the angles. They have a sugar daddy or two, they escort and use OF/twitter/cam sites to build their brand.
This is 2022 in a nutshell, it's becoming extremely normalized and common place for girls in their early to mid twenties to make millions from sex work, whether online or not and i don't blame them. Climbing to the peak of the corporate ladder or grinding out a business is very, very tough and usually is decades in the making versus 3-5 years for sex work and likely a much funner journey. There is a girl i know locally in her late twenties who pulls in 70k/m from sex work, just shy of 1 million a year and i believe she only declares a small portion of it, mostly tax free though she is actually a bit of a recluse and is clearly a bit off socially with most regular people you see daily in the real world, but she does drive a very nice car and lives in a sub-penthouse in Burnaby LOL

EDIT: To answer OP's question: Good news is that if/when these people produce children, we will likely have a fresh new flood of young girls/their daughters on the market. The apple usually doesn't fall far from the tree! Good for the overall availability of options within the hobby. We will likely see this take place within most of our lifetimes (two or three decades)
 
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I think for every successful girl who makes hundreds of thousands a year thru sex related work there are way more who barely make a decent living forcing them to quit and look for another profession. Even though Vancouver has a lot of money to be spent there is way too much competition for most girls to succeed financially for a long time. On Seeking there are a lot of cheap ass flakers according to some girls I know who joined that site. Of course that works both ways. While there are other ways to make money selling your body besides sex, the competition is fierce and the duration to make money can be short. Every year there is someone new who's younger, prettier, and will steal customers away.
 

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Imho COVID-19 caused a MAJOR pullback in providers however supply will normalize within a year from now 😉
 

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What I have noticed is that a lot girls have stopped completely, and didn't even fall into the onlyfans craze as a rebound either. Some are only still seeing the occasional regulars without advertising, but a lot of ads more often than not are seemingly the scammer types.
 
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For most younger ladies this is not going to be a career; rather a way to earn some money to take care of bills and get a start financially. It is not resume material nor is it particularly conducive to developing serious romantic relationships. I have read numerous accounts of ladies challenged by the need to live a lie to family and friends. I don't want to come across as mansplaining, just reflecting on what I have read in comments by ladies. As pointed out by others, the online opportunities have less baggage and are more lucrative.
 

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For most younger ladies this is not going to be a career; rather a way to earn some money to take care of bills and get a start financially. It is not resume material nor is it particularly conducive to developing serious romantic relationships. I have read numerous accounts of ladies challenged by the need to live a lie to family and friends. I don't want to come across as mansplaining, just reflecting on what I have read in comments by ladies. As pointed out by others, the online opportunities have less baggage and are more lucrative.
Yeah I've read too many Reddit threads of girls being outed by coworkers, managers, family or friends for doing this. It's a means to an end.
 
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