Lesbian Hunter said:
I stand corrected,,you are more stupid for even wondering why
lesbo hunter,I'm alittle tired of you following my coat tails,,,this is a very polite"fuck off",,,you annoy me!
Anyone ever date/marry a SP or former SP?
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I stand corrected,,you are more stupid for even wondering why
lesbo hunter,I'm alittle tired of you following my coat tails,,,this is a very polite"fuck off",,,you annoy me!
Boundaries!
In all seriousness...when you get involved in sort of a "loaded" relationship in the first place meaning that you are a client, the girl is an escort...it seems to me that boundaries are very important.
The girl can't freak out when you have fights and say "hey you asshole...remember when you paid me to do you? You're a dork!" and the guy can't say "hey you nutty chickie, you bang other dudes for money and I think that sucks....get a "real" job!" Money cannot be a motivation on either side cause...well....thats just messed up I think.
The problem is..I think it takes two very mature individuals to be able to make those boundaries. Don't get me wrong...its possible but it should be a huge point of contention in my opinion. And hopefully discussed before things become serious. You'll always know what she does. You both will always remember how you met and you may both judge one another for it. DON'T TRY TO CHANGE HER. If you do....then ask youself if you want a project or a girlfriend. Are you cool with her working or are you interested in taking a girl who is in the escort profession, making her do something else and then just make her different. If there is ONE thing I ever learned from relationships is you cannot change ANYONE. Escort or otherwise.
If you can see yourself trying to change her or her being all suspicous of your actions...I say it doesn't work. If you're both all laid back....totally. It could work! You're both people right?
Then again, everyone is different. I just think its cool to make the best attempt to make sure people don't get hurt if things go bad. We all have relationship problems but if there is ONE thing I have learned is that honesty is really the best policy (freaking tough but true), and that if its broke....ya gotta fix it.
Without yapping about any experiences I've had specifically....I think its cool to date someone you met in the biz...its possible BUT you DO have a bit more riding against you than your average couple.
BUT AT LEAST YOU KNOW SHE GIVES A DAMN GOOD BLOWJOB AND SOME WICKED RCG! Okay disregard everything else I said. If she gives a crazy blowjob and rides you like a champ then who cares? Boundaries? Whatever!!!!
Best of luck
TTF
In all seriousness...when you get involved in sort of a "loaded" relationship in the first place meaning that you are a client, the girl is an escort...it seems to me that boundaries are very important.
The girl can't freak out when you have fights and say "hey you asshole...remember when you paid me to do you? You're a dork!" and the guy can't say "hey you nutty chickie, you bang other dudes for money and I think that sucks....get a "real" job!" Money cannot be a motivation on either side cause...well....thats just messed up I think.
The problem is..I think it takes two very mature individuals to be able to make those boundaries. Don't get me wrong...its possible but it should be a huge point of contention in my opinion. And hopefully discussed before things become serious. You'll always know what she does. You both will always remember how you met and you may both judge one another for it. DON'T TRY TO CHANGE HER. If you do....then ask youself if you want a project or a girlfriend. Are you cool with her working or are you interested in taking a girl who is in the escort profession, making her do something else and then just make her different. If there is ONE thing I ever learned from relationships is you cannot change ANYONE. Escort or otherwise.
If you can see yourself trying to change her or her being all suspicous of your actions...I say it doesn't work. If you're both all laid back....totally. It could work! You're both people right?
Then again, everyone is different. I just think its cool to make the best attempt to make sure people don't get hurt if things go bad. We all have relationship problems but if there is ONE thing I have learned is that honesty is really the best policy (freaking tough but true), and that if its broke....ya gotta fix it.
Without yapping about any experiences I've had specifically....I think its cool to date someone you met in the biz...its possible BUT you DO have a bit more riding against you than your average couple.
BUT AT LEAST YOU KNOW SHE GIVES A DAMN GOOD BLOWJOB AND SOME WICKED RCG! Okay disregard everything else I said. If she gives a crazy blowjob and rides you like a champ then who cares? Boundaries? Whatever!!!!
Best of luck
TTF
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I never have, and I can't imagine that I will in the foreseeable future (considering I'm now in a commited relationship, and have retired from pooning as a result), but I certainly wouldn't rule it out.
I've heard a lot of horror stories on this board, but when you get right down to it, people are people, regardless of how they earn their cash. There's no point in pre-judging anyone based on their job (well, unless it's a really hideous job, like somebody whose job is to plan or carry out genocide or something). Everyone is an individual, and you have to take people on a case-by-case basis.
I can probably say that most SPs are people who I wouldn't date, based purely on personality, but I'm sure there are some gems out there (and based on posts and private messages, I think some of those gems are right here on perb) who I would potentially go out with.
While I can understand that most guys are probably too insecure to go out with a girl who has sex with other guys on a regular basis, I don't necessarily think that would be an issue with me, as long as everything else in the relationship was firing on all cylinders. Of course, I'm saying this from my armchair... If the situation did come up, who knows how well I'd do with it? Maybe I'd end up freaking out and trying to get her to quit. I'd like to think I'm more mature than that, but since I've never been in that situation, I can't tell for sure.
I've heard a lot of horror stories on this board, but when you get right down to it, people are people, regardless of how they earn their cash. There's no point in pre-judging anyone based on their job (well, unless it's a really hideous job, like somebody whose job is to plan or carry out genocide or something). Everyone is an individual, and you have to take people on a case-by-case basis.
I can probably say that most SPs are people who I wouldn't date, based purely on personality, but I'm sure there are some gems out there (and based on posts and private messages, I think some of those gems are right here on perb) who I would potentially go out with.
While I can understand that most guys are probably too insecure to go out with a girl who has sex with other guys on a regular basis, I don't necessarily think that would be an issue with me, as long as everything else in the relationship was firing on all cylinders. Of course, I'm saying this from my armchair... If the situation did come up, who knows how well I'd do with it? Maybe I'd end up freaking out and trying to get her to quit. I'd like to think I'm more mature than that, but since I've never been in that situation, I can't tell for sure.
one major problem....
I did date a sp for close to a year out east and the main problem I had with it all was there was not much US time. the god damm phone would ring. I mean I do understand yes it is a biusness and calls need to be taken and if bills needed to be paid or what ever. other than that I didn't mind sex is sex and a relationship is on a different level. GOD damm cell phones.
I did date a sp for close to a year out east and the main problem I had with it all was there was not much US time. the god damm phone would ring. I mean I do understand yes it is a biusness and calls need to be taken and if bills needed to be paid or what ever. other than that I didn't mind sex is sex and a relationship is on a different level. GOD damm cell phones.
I was in a relationship with a SP for a couple of years. Financially I suppose no different than any other woman with a straight job. I try to forget about the cash I spent but a lesson learned. Really, can you with no guilt or reservations tell yr family and friends that yr girlfriend is a SP ? If yes and she always takes precautions then do it.
I have dated a few sp's and they were great relationships. It is very true what Tianna says. The main problem is if she is really good at her job when she comes home she won't want to be too sexual or, she might not want to do her job.
I personally suggest doing something like web cam for couples or something else. That is really your best chance.
Girls who are sp's can have the biggest heart and really want a relationship. Some of them are so afraid of the guy becoming jealous of the other guys. There are so many guys that are after a sp's emotions not even realizing what exactly they are doing or the complications involved for that sp.
I try to keep things physical. It is too easy to become emotional.
Personally I have given up a great sp because I became emotionally attached and we didn't work out. Sex just wasn't the same with her anymore.
I personally suggest doing something like web cam for couples or something else. That is really your best chance.
Girls who are sp's can have the biggest heart and really want a relationship. Some of them are so afraid of the guy becoming jealous of the other guys. There are so many guys that are after a sp's emotions not even realizing what exactly they are doing or the complications involved for that sp.
I try to keep things physical. It is too easy to become emotional.
Personally I have given up a great sp because I became emotionally attached and we didn't work out. Sex just wasn't the same with her anymore.
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I don't say this is impossible, but I would guess it is so hard to find that I would be surprised if a woman would ever admit it, in order to find out if it was a man who could live with it. You would get hurt so many times that the pain would outweigh any gain.tianna said:
Having said that, Tianna, what you do does not define who you are. It is possible to find someone for you to be in a relationship with, and who will accept who you are and what you do. You just have to decide if the search is worth the result, if you continue to do what you do.
Of course, this advice is pretty useless coming from someone who is proud that he has never been in a relationship in 35+ years and has never made that commitment. Friends with women yes, but anything more than that is beyond my comprehension.
- TR
I agree that the job doesn't make the person... but there is alot of evolution you have to fight when your mate works in this field... darned that our manly brain cells haven't worked them selves out of the cave man era yet...
to be defined
I don't think that what I do at all defines who I am as an individual..as there are so many different types of girls in this business.. and I actually find myself to be different from many girls that I have met.. however I am what I am and dating is just difficult because of what I do, and frankly not everyone in the world can be as accepting as others. The individual who I met, and saw for a while, before all the emotions and what not got involved.. thinks that I left the business, and that I have no ties with it at all anymore.. even though he met me that way, and was accepting at first.. he pushed me to leave the business, so all in all from my point of view dating is just so complicated while working as an sp.... do I long for an so?? god yes.. however I believe that when the time is right things will fall into place, and as of right now I would rather stay where I am put all the energy I have into myself and those close around me.....
ps I'm up for holiday fun.. just give me a call for details kisses
tianna
I don't think that what I do at all defines who I am as an individual..as there are so many different types of girls in this business.. and I actually find myself to be different from many girls that I have met.. however I am what I am and dating is just difficult because of what I do, and frankly not everyone in the world can be as accepting as others. The individual who I met, and saw for a while, before all the emotions and what not got involved.. thinks that I left the business, and that I have no ties with it at all anymore.. even though he met me that way, and was accepting at first.. he pushed me to leave the business, so all in all from my point of view dating is just so complicated while working as an sp.... do I long for an so?? god yes.. however I believe that when the time is right things will fall into place, and as of right now I would rather stay where I am put all the energy I have into myself and those close around me.....
ps I'm up for holiday fun.. just give me a call for details kisses
tianna
LOL nothing like opening up and then putting in a advertisement.tianna said:
I have never asked a sp to quit so there are some of us out there that can deal with it. There are even some sps that are married etc.
When I am married though I wouldn't want my wife doing that or anything where others are involved.
Money is just money.
well, this is certainly an interesting topic. I have asked SPs out. Never happened. Would I be okay with it? Don't know. I do try to have a regular SP so that atleast we are "friends" and i feel more comfortable seeing them but I try not to fool myself into thinking it is more. I have met SPs that I would totally date and have a relationship with but I don't think I could get over the other clients even though that's how I met the girl and accept the "terms".
I guess what I am saying is, my heart accepts that SPs are people and that there could be a natural, loving connection but my mind wont accept the thought of my "girlfriend" seeing other men on a regular basis. Most women that become a girlfriend have had other boyfriends and have had sex with those others but not currently when you are seeing them.
I'm babbling but yeah, I would get too jealous thinking about it but the head and heart don't always agree.
I guess what I am saying is, my heart accepts that SPs are people and that there could be a natural, loving connection but my mind wont accept the thought of my "girlfriend" seeing other men on a regular basis. Most women that become a girlfriend have had other boyfriends and have had sex with those others but not currently when you are seeing them.
I'm babbling but yeah, I would get too jealous thinking about it but the head and heart don't always agree.
I guess that's why I like a GFE so much. Treat her like a GF and get reciprocated but not the emotional "hassel".
Tianna, you are gorgeous...want to go for coffee? hee hee
Tianna, you are gorgeous...want to go for coffee? hee hee
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ok well I do have about three family dinners and all kinds of stuff going on however if I get the time... sure im all up for it just give me some notice and if I can I'll just throw on the cape and the tianna mask and fly down to meet you k kisses and sweet dreamssexdemon207 said:
This is why I don't like the GFE treatment!
However Tianna sure does look good. Maybe you should go on tour! Just no mushy stuff for me!
The last thing I need is to get hooked and keep flying to Van city. Then again roller blading in Stanley Park is always nice.
However Tianna sure does look good. Maybe you should go on tour! Just no mushy stuff for me!
The last thing I need is to get hooked and keep flying to Van city. Then again roller blading in Stanley Park is always nice.
An important variable.....
FAMILY.
What us ladies do with our families is one thing. Now what are YOU going to do with the lady if you do date her? What are you going to tell them?
Its totally cool when YOU accept the situation and the profession for what it is but its friends and family that get all meddley. AND if you have to start making up weird stories like "yeah she's got big fake tits and hair down to her ass and she has all this cash in her pocket and lives in a place she somehow bought at like 22 and drives a Mercedes but yeah she's a student....a rich student...ok she won the lottery.....ok she's a student who won the lottery but also she makes crazy money at a restuarant..... and has a rich family.... she's a student who won the lottery with a rich family who chooses to work in a secret location....but don't ask them what she does or call her work.....cause they are private and they are mutes....here is the restuarants name BUT.....just don't go there to try to find her......what restuarant?....um....its hidden...they have no phone number....and the address is secret.....WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME SO MANY QUESTIONS????"
This is inevitable if you get involved with a dancer or an escort. Questions. Who is this hot chick you are with and why is she so capable with her own money and she pays for her own school and she has her own realestate or WHATEVER. People just feel entitled to ask....especially families. And you have to ask yourself if you are okay with being honest with them about it and if you are, if you will be okay with the reaction
If you're cool with it GREAT. Then she's cool with it. GREAT. Its the other perceptions of outside influences that can really cause trouble. Call me old-fashioned but families don't TEND to take the "yeah my girlfriend/wife is an escort but you know....we work it out. I'm okay with it. She isn't on Main and Hastings...seriously...um....pass the potatoes please!" Families are a bit of a variable.
The reason I know this is I have lived it. Its all good for your guy to be cool with what you do. YAY! But he has to also engraciate you into his world and be willing to stand up to those who may not be so cool ie friends and family.
So lets pose a question to the ladies and certainly the sexy and lovely Tianna....do you stay with a man, okay with your profession but NOT okay with telling his friends and family who you are and what you do? Its a toughie. I actually don't have the answer to this one. I'd sincerely love for the girlies to give me some of their perspective on this one.... Like I have really no clue cause you can really see his point of view not wanting his friends to know what you do (should they come see you) and not wanting his family to judge you (should they hurt your feelings) CLM.....you know it all biatch....care to weigh in?
Then its another question.....lets say that your family knows what you do and accepts you. Does the man get to then be a part of YOUR friends and family's life but you are not a part of his? Its a toughie I think.
FAMILY.
What us ladies do with our families is one thing. Now what are YOU going to do with the lady if you do date her? What are you going to tell them?
Its totally cool when YOU accept the situation and the profession for what it is but its friends and family that get all meddley. AND if you have to start making up weird stories like "yeah she's got big fake tits and hair down to her ass and she has all this cash in her pocket and lives in a place she somehow bought at like 22 and drives a Mercedes but yeah she's a student....a rich student...ok she won the lottery.....ok she's a student who won the lottery but also she makes crazy money at a restuarant..... and has a rich family.... she's a student who won the lottery with a rich family who chooses to work in a secret location....but don't ask them what she does or call her work.....cause they are private and they are mutes....here is the restuarants name BUT.....just don't go there to try to find her......what restuarant?....um....its hidden...they have no phone number....and the address is secret.....WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME SO MANY QUESTIONS????"
This is inevitable if you get involved with a dancer or an escort. Questions. Who is this hot chick you are with and why is she so capable with her own money and she pays for her own school and she has her own realestate or WHATEVER. People just feel entitled to ask....especially families. And you have to ask yourself if you are okay with being honest with them about it and if you are, if you will be okay with the reaction
If you're cool with it GREAT. Then she's cool with it. GREAT. Its the other perceptions of outside influences that can really cause trouble. Call me old-fashioned but families don't TEND to take the "yeah my girlfriend/wife is an escort but you know....we work it out. I'm okay with it. She isn't on Main and Hastings...seriously...um....pass the potatoes please!" Families are a bit of a variable.
The reason I know this is I have lived it. Its all good for your guy to be cool with what you do. YAY! But he has to also engraciate you into his world and be willing to stand up to those who may not be so cool ie friends and family.
So lets pose a question to the ladies and certainly the sexy and lovely Tianna....do you stay with a man, okay with your profession but NOT okay with telling his friends and family who you are and what you do? Its a toughie. I actually don't have the answer to this one. I'd sincerely love for the girlies to give me some of their perspective on this one.... Like I have really no clue cause you can really see his point of view not wanting his friends to know what you do (should they come see you) and not wanting his family to judge you (should they hurt your feelings) CLM.....you know it all biatch....care to weigh in?
Then its another question.....lets say that your family knows what you do and accepts you. Does the man get to then be a part of YOUR friends and family's life but you are not a part of his? Its a toughie I think.
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if he was cool then sure
as long as I felt that I was important .. with all the extra's I'm sure that all women know what it is that I'm talking about..and if the partner was open minded in a sense that he could accept it and treat me like gold. then what his friends may think makes no difference to me as they... my not be of the same bread as myself and the partner that I chose,, and at times I think that u should leave those in the bubble that they live in.. pick and chose the battles.. lots are just not worth it.. I M H O
as long as I felt that I was important .. with all the extra's I'm sure that all women know what it is that I'm talking about..and if the partner was open minded in a sense that he could accept it and treat me like gold. then what his friends may think makes no difference to me as they... my not be of the same bread as myself and the partner that I chose,, and at times I think that u should leave those in the bubble that they live in.. pick and chose the battles.. lots are just not worth it.. I M H O
My very best friends know totally that I see escorts.
I would just tell my family I bought her all that stuff cause I am crazy. To be honest I don't know what I would do either.
Most of the time I have dated a girl that is in this profession she has quit on her own and done something else.
I would just tell my family I bought her all that stuff cause I am crazy. To be honest I don't know what I would do either.
Most of the time I have dated a girl that is in this profession she has quit on her own and done something else.
