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bruce_lee

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Wanderlai and the ice man are both washed up. Both Silva and Liddel have lost their last two fights. I want to see Houston Alexander back in the ring though. And hopefully GSP wins.
 

Aerts

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I would like to see Lesnar beat the shit out of Tim Sylvia.
Jerome LeBanner from K-1 wants to fight Tim sylvia now too. I would love to see this, JLB would destroy him.
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k_soze11

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Wanderlai and the ice man are both washed up. Both Silva and Liddel have lost their last two fights. I want to see Houston Alexander back in the ring though. And hopefully GSP wins.
i wouldn't call them washed up so what if they lost 2 fights. Look at rampage jackson he lost 3 fights via knock out 2 to wand and 1 to shogun two years ago and look at him now he looks to be unstoppable. I think it's all about changing your game and covering your weaknesses.
 

bruce_lee

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First off, in the sport of MMA when you lose two in a row it is a big deal. In the light heavy weight division which is ultra competitive ONE loss is a big deal.

Chuck was handed Jardine which should have been an automatic after he lost to Rampage in order to set up the Chuck-Silva bout by Dana White. He lost that. Chuck is a one trick wonder that fighters have figured out. He uses that overhand right which Jardine quickly figured out. Granted he does have good take down defense but still was not able to counter against Jardine's leg kicks and he just does not seem as quick as he used to be.

Wanderlei, losing to respectable opponents like Henderson and Crocop is nothing to frown at. But, like many fighters (ex. Crocop) after a KO by Henderson he has not been the same. Watch his fight against Crocop and you can see why I say he is washed up.

I guess only time will tell if they are washed up but now in my opinion they sure do look like it.
 

henryhill

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Jeez Hubba! You sure do know a lot about UFC! That's awesome. You know all their stats and you are able to provide wonderful insight about the fighters backgrounds, records and other really neat stuff. Who knew? Do you and your friend(s?) wrestle around in your Mom's basement and stuff and pretend which guy you are? Don't worry, we can't actually see you so its all good. Does watching UFC make you as tough as those guys too? They sure are a burly bunch aren't they Hubba?
 

k_soze11

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First off, in the sport of MMA when you lose two in a row it is a big deal. In the light heavy weight division which is ultra competitive ONE loss is a big deal.

Chuck was handed Jardine which should have been an automatic after he lost to Rampage in order to set up the Chuck-Silva bout by Dana White. He lost that. Chuck is a one trick wonder that fighters have figured out. He uses that overhand right which Jardine quickly figured out. Granted he does have good take down defense but still was not able to counter against Jardine's leg kicks and he just does not seem as quick as he used to be.

Wanderlei, losing to respectable opponents like Henderson and Crocop is nothing to frown at. But, like many fighters (ex. Crocop) after a KO by Henderson he has not been the same. Watch his fight against Crocop and you can see why I say he is washed up.

I guess only time will tell if they are washed up but now in my opinion they sure do look like it.

a month before he knocked the hell out of fujita a guy with an iron chin. It was just a bad gameplan against crocop he came straight in throwing wide punches which was a mistake. MMA is a unpredictable sport especially for 2 guys that like to stand. You make one slight mistake u can end up getting koed because the gloves are so small. If silva wins, he can easily fight for the title.
 

henryhill

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Funny you bring up the "tough" comments because I surely made no reference to that did I?
No, you didn't. That's why I asked. You should try to stop playing Xbox long enough to read thoroughly. By the way, your ferret's litter box could use a cleaning too.

HubbaHubba said:
Merry Christmas Henry and may all your Christmas wishes come true.
All the best to you too. And give Mom a kiss for me will ya? She's always so festive at this time of year. Hey!! Maybe if your lucky, she can watch the big fight on PayPerView with you! That'd be rad!
 

bruce_lee

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So was Randy when he retired and lost to Chuck how many times? Then he came back and won the heavyweight championship. People are 2 quick to say guys are washed up and over rated. Wanderlei lost to top quality guys as did Chuck with the exception of a very poor fight against Jardine.

Both these guys are warriors who deserve a little respect. They also said the same thing about Rampage after he was KO'd by Shogun and Wand, and where is he now? That's right the champ as Randy is.

It's cool to have an opinion but the facts don't back yours up.

War Chuck!!!!!
Rampage's case of losing by KO to shogun and Wanderlei is a different scenario than Chuck and Silva. Chuck and Silva both lost two in a row. Rampage did not lose two in a row which in the UFC is a big deal. I dont think Rampage has ever lost two in a row. I never said they were overrated, at their prime they were very good fighters but as you look at crocop they just arent good as they used to be. Wanderlei is also going to have to get used to using elbows and not being able to kick while chuck is on the ground, which Crocop had a big problem with.

To be honest I think Wanderlei will have a hard time adjusting to the UFC rules which are way different from Pride, even though he has fought in the UFC before. Take a look at Shogun and Crocop who were suppose to take over the UFC lightheavyweight and heavyweight divison by storm. He is going to have a hard time not using his stomps and kicks when his opponent is on the ground and getting used to the elbows.
 

bendover baby

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GSP (Canada) beat MATT (Usa)

Wanna be and Chunky Cheese ,. Very similiar fighters will be interesting to watch. Wanna Be kicked Jackson's ass so bad. Jackson Rocked Chunky Cheese's World.


Cunt twat 2 c it!
 

Krustee

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First off, in the sport of MMA when you lose two in a row it is a big deal. In the light heavy weight division which is ultra competitive ONE loss is a big deal.

Chuck was handed Jardine which should have been an automatic after he lost to Rampage in order to set up the Chuck-Silva bout by Dana White. He lost that. Chuck is a one trick wonder that fighters have figured out. He uses that overhand right which Jardine quickly figured out. Granted he does have good take down defense but still was not able to counter against Jardine's leg kicks and he just does not seem as quick as he used to be.

Wanderlei, losing to respectable opponents like Henderson and Crocop is nothing to frown at. But, like many fighters (ex. Crocop) after a KO by Henderson he has not been the same. Watch his fight against Crocop and you can see why I say he is washed up.

I guess only time will tell if they are washed up but now in my opinion they sure do look like it.
I'll agree with BL on this I've watched UFC since before Dana took it over
Of the fights that I've watched for Silva & Liddel I would have to say that the last fight we saw with the "Iceman" against "the Dean of Mean" Jardine was not the Liddel that we should have seen he was definaltely off his game, but that does not mean he is on permanent vacation.

Concerning Wanderlei "Axe Murderer" Silva, he is a very tough & tenacious fighter. Keep in mind that of these people Silva is the only one to beat Rampage.
Anybody that can beat Rampage, the toughest man the UFC today, is in my book a certifiable Bad Ass.

How do I see this one?

My money is on Silva but this is without a doubt one of the best fights we will see this year.


So was Randy when he retired and lost to Chuck how many times? Then he came back and won the heavyweight championship. People are 2 quick to say guys are washed up and over rated. Wanderlei lost to top quality guys as did Chuck with the exception of a very poor fight against Jardine.

Both these guys are warriors who deserve a little respect. They also said the same thing about Rampage after he was KO'd by Shogun and Wand, and where is he now? That's right the champ as Randy is.

It's cool to have an opinion but the facts don't back yours up.

War Chuck!!!!!
This fight between Liddel & Silva will be a skillful match-up.
Both men have had the opportunity to study each others style.
Personally, I agree that Chuck is limited in his fighting skills.
The tools he has are;

Striker - he has a hell of a right hook
Defensive - he has excellent counter to being taken down.

If Liddel gets down he is in trouble. (unless he has learned new ground skills)

Wanderlei Silva is one tough, agressive fighter his skills are;

Striker - very good striking
Stand-up grapple - Silva is devestating with his knee to the head in a tie-up.
Ground skills - Silva is a wrestler if he needs to be & THAT just may be the trick he uses to defeat Liddel.

Jeez Hubba! You sure do know a lot about UFC! That's awesome. You know all their stats and you are able to provide wonderful insight about the fighters backgrounds, records and other really neat stuff. Who knew? Do you and your friend(s?) wrestle around in your Mom's basement and stuff and pretend which guy you are? Don't worry, we can't actually see you so its all good. Does watching UFC make you as tough as those guys too? They sure are a burly bunch aren't they Hubba?
Once again henry you have shown what a complete prick you are.

I'll get in the ring with you anytime. :D

I promise I won't hurt you, I'll just toy with you & embarass you because everyone should see what a little man you really are. :rolleyes:
 

Krustee

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Silva is a black belt in brazilian jiu jutsu, so is Chuck if I recall correctly.

btw. it's Jiu-Jitsu


From Wikipedia:

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) is a martial art and combat sport that focuses on grappling and especially ground fighting with the goal of gaining a dominant position and using joint-locks and chokeholds to force an opponent to submit. The art was based on early 20th century Kodokan Judo,[1][2] which was itself then a recently-developed system (founded in 1882), based on multiple schools (or Ryu) of Japanese Jujutsu.
Grappling refers to the gripping, handling and controlling of an opponent without the use of striking, typically through the application of various grappling holds, choke holds, and counters to various hold attempts. Grappling forms an important part of both ground fighting and standing clinch fighting. Sports that use grappling include Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Judo, mixed martial arts and Wrestling. FILA uses the term grappling interchangeably with the sport of submission wrestling.[1]

Grappling is a mode of fighting used by many different martial arts around the world. It is not a distinct martial art, but rather, similarly to striking, a collection of techniques and strategies aimed at defeating an opponent, these can be subdivided into:

Throws (as used in Glima, Judo, Jujutsu, Shuai jiao and Sambo).
Joint locks (as in Aikido, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Hapkido and Malla-yuddha).
Pinning Techniques; a victory condition in Wrestling and Judo and as as transitional technique in others.
Most include all of the above aspects while others focus one. There is no definite dividing line between the sections as locks may be used in throws and a throw may lead directly to a pin. A possible fourth category are sweeps and escapes, used to improve position in ground fighting either escaping from or moving into a position where a lock or pin may be better applied.

So, what was wrong with my post?
 

Krustee

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Liddell's a former Div 1 collegiate wrestler...so Silva being a "wrestler when he needs to be" means fuck all by comparison.
Well I'm on record as stating that Silva will win.

I suspect that he will win by breaking Liddel's defensive ground skill & submit him.

By this I am definately saying that Silva will be dominant on the ground.

I guess that means fuck all though.
 

Wet My Noodle

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He has to get him there first. Which won't happen.

If Randy Couture couldn't do it Silva has no hope.


Yes, your opinion means fuck all.


Silva by KO in round 2.


Ya, that is kinda hard to believe that Liddel beat Randy Couture Twice.

I must say however it goes, it's not going to be a quick one.

It's going to be a browl.


Somebody's Gonna Get HURT>

Rampage Jackson Dominated Iceman Liddel.

At the same time. Silvia, gave Rampage Jackson a beating.

Silva, Has Hope.. JUST watch the fight.



GSP , will win against Matt Hughes.
 
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