Another Mass Shooting, 10 Dead

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g eazy

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What "narratives that are relevant"? Those are weasel words. I have some bad news for you, some one either did or did not murder people in a mass shooting. And that is all that matters.

Good god, narratives? Data? That is called a circle jerk.

What is God's name do you believe a "narrative that (is) relevant" would change about people shot and killed? What sort of ridiculous person would think this way?
Just because your brain can't comprehend certain concepts, doesn't make those concepts any less true. Again, they have been addressed, and if you can't go back to understand it, perhaps you should repeat grade 10.
 

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Here's a "narrative that matters". Crazed Muslim living in $800.000.00 home drive more than 40 kM to Boulder, the whitest city in Colorado. He ignores mixed cities right beside him, like commerce City, Thorton, Westminster, Lakewood, and murders 10 white people. Media silent after 1 day.

Crazed white guy kills 2 WHITE sex workers and 6 elderly Asians. Weeks later, Media still repeating multiple double digit stories even today about Asian Hate. Protest still happening even today, about Anti-Asian Hate.

Is that a "narrative that matters"? Is that how you "consume data"?
 
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Just because your brain can't comprehend certain concepts, doesn't make those concepts any less true. Again, they have been addressed, and if you can't go back to understand it, perhaps you should repeat grade 10.
I comprehend just fine little one. How about if you consume the data above, and explain to everyone about the "narrative that (is) relevant" in the previous post?
 

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Senator Lindsey Graham today apparently nixed another assault weapon ban:

“I will resist a ban on assault weapons until my dying breath. I don’t want to live in a country where a man can’t pack serious heat when he walks with another man on the corn fields in the cold moon light.”
 

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I'd like vincentinvancouver to try to dispute the numbers, or indeed, find lower numbers of the shootings and deaths in Chicago, that he implies are incorrect. He can then move on to see what's also happening in Detroit, St Louis, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc etc.

And yes, Uncle Tom is a very well done doc, that breaks down the deterioration in black communities. "No Personal Responsibility" is the mantra of the Democrats. Everything has to be blamed on someone else, and they have cornered the market on deceiving black people into voting for them, and perpetuating, or further ruining their communities with things like demonizing, and defunding police, which gurantees poorer (usually black) communities will suffer with increased crime.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Seriously dude, you are more fixated on race than any BLM advocate. It's like some weird fetish for you.

Prior to your post (#7 in this thread), the six preceding comments made no mention of race. Zero. They were more concerned about the tragedy of 10 deaths - but not you. Because you have an obvious axe to grind, you drag the thread into your very tired monologue on race. Anyone with two neurons to rub together is aware that there is a great deal of black on black violence. Duh - it's not a particularly original insight. The question I have for you is this: "why is there so much black on black violence?" Any fair and intelligent person would swim upstream to seek the real answer to that question. Instead you blame black people for the cess pool that 400 years of slavery has created - as if it could be wiped away in a generation. I'm not sure if you're willfully ignorant or just too enamoured of your own bluster to give any consideration to cause-and-effect. Too busy man-splaining shit to the great unwashed.

Why are you so threatened by anyone who wants the same privileges that you enjoy?
 
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So, which of the mass slaughters from Columbine to Sandy Hook to Charleston to Parkland to Las Vegas to Atlanta to Boulder, and all those in between . . . was the shooter a Black man?
 

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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Seriously dude, you are more fixated on race than any BLM advocate. It's like some weird fetish for you.

Prior to your post (#7 in this thread), the six preceding comments made no mention of race. Zero. They were more concerned about the tragedy of 10 deaths - but not you. Because you have an obvious axe to grind, you drag the thread into your very tired monologue on race. Anyone with two neurons to rub together is aware that there is a great deal of black on black violence. Duh - it's not a particularly original insight. The question I have for you is this: "why is there so much black on black violence?" Any fair and intelligent person would swim upstream to seek the real answer to that question. Instead you blame black people for the cess pool that 400 years of slavery has created - as if it could be wiped away in a generation. I'm not sure if you're willfully ignorant or just too enamoured of your own bluster to give any consideration to cause-and-effect. Too busy man-splaining shit to the great unwashed.

Why are you so threatened by anyone who wants the same privileges that you enjoy?
A big part of it is likely socioeconomic status. A lot of poor people do what they need to survive.
 

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Let us think for a moment.

How different would this conversation be if the perpetrators forever shooting-up schools, churches, super markets, concerts . . . killing or injuring dozens or in the case of Las Vegas hundreds of innocent strangers, church-goers, little children, in one fell swoop . . .

. . . were virtually all Black men rather than virtually all white men?

Do you think racist Republicans would still be bleating "this is not the time to discuss guns?"

Do you think racists on message boards would not constantly remind us that Black men are behind these slaughters?

Do you think they would remind us that white people shoot people too?
 

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Let us think for a moment.

How different would this conversation be if the perpetrators forever shooting-up schools, churches, super markets, concerts . . . killing or injuring dozens or in the case of Las Vegas hundreds of innocent strangers, church-goers, little children, in one fell swoop . . .

. . . were virtually all Black men rather than virtually all white men?

Do you think racist Republicans would still be bleating "this is not the time to discuss guns?"

Do you think racists on message boards would not constantly remind us that Black men are behind these slaughters?

Do you think they would remind us that white people shoot people too?
Your missing the point, dude. Nobody is denying that people are killing each other, only that blacks killing blacks is never factored in, or as to the social reasons why? You can never really know what is in the mind of these mass shooters, or who is behind it, ect. But, the ones that happen in poor black neighborhood’s could have most likely been prevented if there would have been some political will years ago to deal with the underlying social issues that kept them in perpetual poverty. Listen to the black athletes that came from those poor black neighborhood’s and most of them will tell you that if they weren’t a rich athlete they would have ended up dead, or in jail. Most of them grew up with no role models so they ended up in a life of crime trying to survive.
 

g eazy

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"You're" missing the point dude.

I'm not denying blacks kill blacks at an atrocious rate.

I'm saying virtually all mass slaughters in the US in which a gunman has fired indiscriminately into a crowd of people at a school, church, theatre supermarket etc with the sole purpose of killing as many strangers as possible, the perpetrator has been a white male.

That is simply a statement of fact.

But the volley I get back is all of this Chicago bullshit. It's apples and fucking oranges.

All mass shootings are not mass slaughters.
Unless I am reading Shakerod's post incorrectly, I think he is actually agreeing with you and disagreeing with Cock Throppled, Lurker23, etc. Black on black gang violence is indeed a result of generations worth (or 400 years as you'd put it) of social issues. Effectively he is agreeing that the black on black shootings are part of a different narrative, despite it possibly being classified as a "mass shooting" event still.
 

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Unless I am reading Shakerod's post incorrectly, I think he is actually agreeing with you and disagreeing with Cock Throppled, Lurker23, etc. Black on black gang violence is indeed a result of generations worth (or 400 years as you'd put it) of social issues. Effectively he is agreeing that the black on black shootings are part of a different narrative, despite it possibly being classified as a "mass shooting" event still.
My apologies. I quoted the wrong post.
 

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Unless I am reading Shakerod's post incorrectly, I think he is actually agreeing with you and disagreeing with Cock Throppled, Lurker23, etc. Black on black gang violence is indeed a result of generations worth (or 400 years as you'd put it) of social issues. Effectively he is agreeing that the black on black shootings are part of a different narrative, despite it possibly being classified as a "mass shooting" event still.
No, the point I was making as Cock Throppled said is that much more media attention is focused on blacks being killed by police officers and white people. When the statistics show that overwhelmingly more blacks are killed by other blacks.
 

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Its been shown 79.65% of the time that people that pull statistics out of their asses are right 27.53% of the time.
This is from the 61.98% of the population that can understand what pulling out your ass means.
 

g eazy

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No, the point I was making as Cock Throppled said is that much more media attention is focused on blacks being killed by police officers and white people. When the statistics show that overwhelmingly more blacks are killed by other blacks.
Actually, no. This is literally what you said.

But, the ones that happen in poor black neighborhood’s could have most likely been prevented if there would have been some political will years ago to deal with the underlying social issues that kept them in perpetual poverty. Listen to the black athletes that came from those poor black neighborhood’s and most of them will tell you that if they weren’t a rich athlete they would have ended up dead, or in jail. Most of them grew up with no role models so they ended up in a life of crime trying to survive.
Are you sure you aren't just experiencing cognitive dissonance because you agree with us now? :)

You've agreed that the black on black shootings provide a different narrative than other instances of mass shootings.
 

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Well I guess the problem is about people pointing fingers. Who started it? What can be done about it? And why is everyone bitching about it, when they themselves could stop alot of the pain caused in the world by being a better human..... Ooppss meand they would have to change.... Can't have change, it disrupts your life, causes all types of problem for you....

Meanwhile mass shootings will continue for the forseeable future.... 👉
 
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