I get what you are saying, but unfortunately Newsweek's data is wrong. They claim there were 80 mass shootings in the last DECADE. In point of fact, there have been 103 mass shootings since the start of 2021. And yes, not all, or even a lot were AR-15's
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But just to further support your largely correct post, most of these mass shootings in the US happen when 2 blacks start arguing a a club, a party, a BBQ, or something similar where they have to be in close proximity to their intended target. Does anyone with a brain in their head think these people will come to the club with an AR-15, compared to a handgun concealed in their pants?
But just to further support your largely correct post, most of these mass shootings in the US happen when 2 blacks start arguing a a club, a party, a BBQ, or something similar where they have to be in close proximity to their intended target. Does anyone with a brain in their head think these people will come to the club with an AR-15, compared to a handgun concealed in their pants?
No, they said they examined the last 80 mass shootings, including the one in Boulder. They didn't say there were only 80 mass shootings in the past decade.
Keep in mind the variation with what the definition of "mass shooting" is. The article I linked to defines a mass shooting as a shooting that takes place in a short amount of time, in a public setting, by one gunman with a minimum of three deaths. This rules out lots of gang violence and disputes. By the larger definition of "mass shooting" where four or more people are killed, home violence is nearly 50% of all mass shootings.
Well, again, if they examined the last 80 mass shootings they would only get to January of 2021, and wouldn't have included Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, Columbine, Orlando, or the Colorado theatre shooting.
Also, the article refers to the statement below, which is where I concluded they are referring to the last decade
A Newsweek analysis found that the semi-automatic rifle was used in 21 mass shootings over the past decade
I agree the definition of mass shootings is problematic, and not all major sources define it the same way. However, there is only 1 piece of legislation that defines a mass shooting, the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012. This Act defines a mass shooting as whenever three or more people are shot (injured or killed), not including the shooters.
So since it's law, and the others are not, in my view it makes the most sense to use that one. If we followed the definition you provided, the Trenton Arts Festival shooting with 2 killed and 22 injured would not qualify as a mass shooting. That's a little hard to swallow.
I looked through the law and it only defines "mass killing". If it defines "mass shooting", I'm all ears. We agree in essence, but our details do not, which is fine as we both can agree that "99%" of mass shootings are NOT in fact carried out with an AR-15. I would still like to know your source for the "103" figure.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/2076/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/2076/text
Right, agreed. The act refers to 3 or more killed as a Mass Killing, rather than mass shooting. I read the wiki link about mass shootings definition, and was foolish enough not to look at the legislation they linked. I should know better than this.
Still, common sense would refer to a number of people shot at the same time/place, whether they were killed or injured. As I previously stated, what would you classify 22 wounded and 2 dead, if not a mass shooting?
I get my number from gun violence archive. They have a link to each and every incident from local news sources, so you can read for yourself and check a) Is it Real? and b) Who is doing the shooting?
Gun Violence Archive
You're welcome. Gun Violence archive uses the standard of 4 or more casualties, dead or wounded. I think that is sensible for a mass shooting definition. If they want to classify the other incidents as mass KILLINGS, they should state that.
Just in case anyone was still interested in this topic, from Friday until today there have been 7 mass shootings. Ask yourself why these shootings are not getting the same coverage as the multiple weeks long Hate Whitey Fest associated with this Asian Spa killing spree.
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Do yourself a favour and watch the documentary Uncle Tom. It was done by one of the most respected black leaders in the US, Larry Elder. He not only has statistics backing up the fact that over 90% of black deaths are black people killing other black people, but also gives the reasons why? They live in poor communities and in most cases their father has abandoned them leaving no role models, thus they end with no hope and on the street in gangs. This has been going on for decades, but because it mostly goes on in Democrat run cities, and because it is not white people or the police shooting them it doesn’t fit the narrative. I thought all black lives mattered?...not just the blacks that are killed by the police and white people. Trump was trying to deal with some of the systematic problems facing the black community. Elder talks about them in his documentary.
Just because someone brings up another side of the story doesn’t make them a troll. You are making yourself look very foolish and uneducated with your comments.
I'd like vincentinvancouver to try to dispute the numbers, or indeed, find lower numbers of the shootings and deaths in Chicago, that he implies are incorrect. He can then move on to see what's also happening in Detroit, St Louis, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc etc.
And yes, Uncle Tom is a very well done doc, that breaks down the deterioration in black communities. "No Personal Responsibility" is the mantra of the Democrats. Everything has to be blamed on someone else, and they have cornered the market on deceiving black people into voting for them, and perpetuating, or further ruining their communities with things like demonizing, and defunding police, which gurantees poorer (usually black) communities will suffer with increased crime.
The US has a very large gun problem.
To diminish the problem of white males slaughtering large numbers of innocent strangers because 'those n*****s in Chicago are shooting each other too' is frankly crazy and the sort of fucked up racist logic that prevents the US from fixing its very large gun problem.
To diminish the problem of white males slaughtering large numbers of innocent strangers because 'those n*****s in Chicago are shooting each other too' is frankly crazy and the sort of fucked up racist logic that prevents the US from fixing its very large gun problem.
Hilarious. He's right back at it. After being shown that there is no "problems of white males slaughtering large numbers of innocent strangers", and that whites are the LEAST likely to be involved in such behavior as a percentage of the population, he starts in right away with his racist BS.
This guy is a hardcore Hate Whitey Racist, and quite delusional.
7 Mass shootings this weekend. All committed by blacks. Several of which were blacks opening up on people they didn't know, killing at least 1innocent black girl Deshayla E. Harris in Virginia. And so what does this venomous misfit start bawling about?
Why white people, of course.
Just to update, the Chicago tally is now 707 shot, 127 shot and killed. That averages a black person shooting and shot every 2.17 minutes
The reason why nobody has continued to entertain the nonsense is because the circlejerkers have continued to ignore the narratives that are relevant and are just yelling "data! data! data! look at me!". It's already been elaborated by multiple posters but they keep pounding the same bullshit just pointing out the one guy who's blindly yelling "white male bad!".
If this is how you use data, you don't have an inkling of capability to consume data.
If this is how you use data, you don't have an inkling of capability to consume data.
What "narratives that are relevant"? Those are weasel words. I have some bad news for you, some one either did or did not murder people in a mass shooting. And that is all that matters.
Good god, narratives? Data? That is called a circle jerk.
What is God's name do you believe a "narrative that (is) relevant" would change about people shot and killed? What sort of ridiculous person would think this way?
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