Ad posting tips for SPs
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A lady will advertise to her target market to the best of her abilities. If you are not in that main focus of clientele, it's nobody's fault, just move on until you find someone that suits your needs.
There are plenty of ladies that will provide you with some form of explanation of their services if you send a brief inquiry, and there are also plenty of ladies who state upfront what they do or do not do. Some SPs choose to hide this information as they want clients who take the time to research the girls they see, so there's a better chance of making a connection. Some girls just want to be readily available with the least amount of communication in planning a date. Each to their own.
As most of the ladies here have said - if you don't like what you see, move on. No lady has to change her advertising style because someone else told her to.
There are plenty of ladies that will provide you with some form of explanation of their services if you send a brief inquiry, and there are also plenty of ladies who state upfront what they do or do not do. Some SPs choose to hide this information as they want clients who take the time to research the girls they see, so there's a better chance of making a connection. Some girls just want to be readily available with the least amount of communication in planning a date. Each to their own.
As most of the ladies here have said - if you don't like what you see, move on. No lady has to change her advertising style because someone else told her to.
lol, Every guy that pays for sex has run into the lady who insists on keeping her hand down there to "ensure the condom stays on" or manages to angle herself so that the guy would have to use force to successfully enter her. Most, the majority, of clients that an SP sees will not use force. We just leave and write off the donation as another lesson learned. That's why I don't bother with ladies that expect me to decipher "GFE" and are DNR. My experience is that I will just add to my long list of "lessons learned".
lol, Well, I will admit that some selfies in the bathroom are pretty gross. There is one lady that I've seen who posts selfies where it doesn't jump out at you that it's a selfie. She uses a tripod and a timer and has posted some pretty nice pictures.
The key to any advertising is to make sure it is always up to date. Meaning updated photos at fairly regular intervals, update on prices, services, etc. We want SPs to be as much of a known quantity as possible. Personally, when it comes to pics, I like a mix of professional and casual photos as possible, as it gets a good idea of what you actually look like in a variety of different settings and styles. A great Sp ad entices and informs. If services and other pertinent info isn't listed in the ad, make sure you link to your website (if you have one).
That's hilarious.
We have a poster here, a buyer in this market, who went through the effort to politely and eloquently communicate to the SP world how best to attract his hard earned dollars, and we have the providers here stomping on his balls telling him how wrong he is and that he's being too lazy...when he's the one spending the money and their the ones trying to sell their wares to the market place.
The points he makes are very good ones and very, very likely applicable to most guys out there. Of course none of you have to accept any of his advice - but if you want to actually earn more business I'd suggest that you at least pay attention to what he's saying if not follow some of his advice because its good advice.
I, like him, just bypass the women who can't be bothered with putting in the effort to follow most of his advice. That's ok...if an SP is independently wealthy or earning more than enough doing what she's doing while ignoring this very good market information then all the power to her and no one is worse for wear. But if an SP is sitting there wondering why she isn't as busy as she'd like and isn't earning the money she needs to then I'd suggest you reread his post again.
The excuses some of the women have given for not posting info such as services, cropped/blurred real pics, etc. all sounds like total bullshit to a rationally thinking client. Experienced pooners have all faced the rip offs in this market far too many times because of lack of information and its far more likely that if this info isn't posted that the advertiser is looking to manipulate the situation and the client (even if some of these women have no ill intentions they are in the minority) or the SP is inexperienced or ill-informed in posting their ads and don't know what info to put in them (which is why VanCity made his post).
No one at the border is going to stop any of them from travelling if you post your services and your pics are cropped/blurred. If someone wants to stalk you all they need to do is set up an appointment with you and set up the meet...stating you work in Yaletown or Delta in your ad isn't going to attract any more stalkers for you.
Most businesses in the real world don't tell their prospective clients that they should stop being "lazy"...if the client want convenience and is doing you the favor of telling you this then the prudent businesswoman will listen to what he is saying. And if there are so many providers in this market that are earning so much money that they can insult their clients and tell them to shove their demands up their asses like some of the ones in this thread have said to VanCity, then maybe there's an opportunity for the prudent businesswomen out there to start stealing their lunches and catering better to the marketplace.
So much for "the customer is always right" in this thread.
We have a poster here, a buyer in this market, who went through the effort to politely and eloquently communicate to the SP world how best to attract his hard earned dollars, and we have the providers here stomping on his balls telling him how wrong he is and that he's being too lazy...when he's the one spending the money and their the ones trying to sell their wares to the market place.
The points he makes are very good ones and very, very likely applicable to most guys out there. Of course none of you have to accept any of his advice - but if you want to actually earn more business I'd suggest that you at least pay attention to what he's saying if not follow some of his advice because its good advice.
I, like him, just bypass the women who can't be bothered with putting in the effort to follow most of his advice. That's ok...if an SP is independently wealthy or earning more than enough doing what she's doing while ignoring this very good market information then all the power to her and no one is worse for wear. But if an SP is sitting there wondering why she isn't as busy as she'd like and isn't earning the money she needs to then I'd suggest you reread his post again.
The excuses some of the women have given for not posting info such as services, cropped/blurred real pics, etc. all sounds like total bullshit to a rationally thinking client. Experienced pooners have all faced the rip offs in this market far too many times because of lack of information and its far more likely that if this info isn't posted that the advertiser is looking to manipulate the situation and the client (even if some of these women have no ill intentions they are in the minority) or the SP is inexperienced or ill-informed in posting their ads and don't know what info to put in them (which is why VanCity made his post).
No one at the border is going to stop any of them from travelling if you post your services and your pics are cropped/blurred. If someone wants to stalk you all they need to do is set up an appointment with you and set up the meet...stating you work in Yaletown or Delta in your ad isn't going to attract any more stalkers for you.
Most businesses in the real world don't tell their prospective clients that they should stop being "lazy"...if the client want convenience and is doing you the favor of telling you this then the prudent businesswoman will listen to what he is saying. And if there are so many providers in this market that are earning so much money that they can insult their clients and tell them to shove their demands up their asses like some of the ones in this thread have said to VanCity, then maybe there's an opportunity for the prudent businesswomen out there to start stealing their lunches and catering better to the marketplace.
So much for "the customer is always right" in this thread.
What do you think? Do you "really believe" I said this in a figurative sense or in a literal sense?
Seriously...some people need to just take a breath and think a little.
If you're going to posit questions like your last one then don't worry about considering.
Seriously?
Try telling a SP that the customer is always right. Let us know how that works out for you.
We pooners make our own choices based upon the SP's ads, websites and through connections we make here on Perb. When I visit an SP I can usually be quoted as saying "your house, your rules". I would never state I am the customer and I am always right. Generally speaking I am pretty well respected amongst the ladies I have met and continue to visit because I am easy to get along with during our dates.
Telling an SP how to run their business is a non starter IMHO.
I am not telling anyone how to run their business. They can run their business however they like.
If they want to earn more business then maybe they should listen more to what their clients in the marketplace are telling them. Because they are losing business and money to SPs who do. Not every potential client is an easy touch patsy who does anything that a provider tells them to do.
And how exactly do you know this to be a FACT? Are clients giving SP's their ideas on marketing too?
Are you dense? The OP wrote this post exactly as an idea/advice on how to market themselves.
All the OP stated can be simplified as follows:
1. He as a client wants a clear understanding of what it is that he is purchasing.
2. In an SP's advertising please communicate as clearly as possible what it is that you are selling to him and what your offer does not include (pics/services/location). The clearer you can do this the better.
3. Do not make him jump through hoops to find this information - do not make him phone, and do not make him drive all the way to your incall/set up an outcall appointment before he receives all this info. His time is valuable and he is not going to waste it if the SP cannot be bothered.
4. If you do not communicate this information clearly it is unlikely that he, like many other clients, will call you.
Now...if you think that what he is communicating is unreasonably demanding then you're either a handler, have way too much spare time on your hands, or a far too easy touch. There is nothing here that he listed that the market doesn't expect for most other service offerings in the marketplace and if you don't know this as a "FACT" then you're beyond help.
An SP can take this advice or leave it. No harm and no foul. But for these SPs to come on this thread and stomp all over this guy for simply communicating what he is seeking is just plain disgusting.
Hi Jessica,I've branded myself very carefully and my marketing is directed specifically at the type of gent I want contacting me. I know it's working because I'm compatible with the gents who visit, my inbox is continuously receiving messages & the number of negative experiences I've had is minimal.
Tailoring your marketing style to achieve this sort of success does take time however.
One other thing I've learned is that many gents don't read the complete advertisement, or the whole website, and even when they do they still want confirmation or clarification of the information they did read. I've made numerous changes to my site as I've learned things, including removal of the "menu" long ago. Gents either read my reviews or contact me for more detailed information regarding services and restrictions. This type of initial communication sets the ground work for a successful meeting, because boundaries are clarified, rates are confirmed, and there's usually time for some friendly banter & flirting.
Happy hobbying everyone
Don't mistake gentlemen asking you to confirm information that you had already published on your posting (such as services/restrictions etc.) as the same as them not having read the info on the ad. You need to realize that there are so many misleading ads out there that many experienced guys will reconfirm with a phone call what it is that they are reading as one step to ensure that they are not being lured in with false advertising. You might see this as a time-wasting exercise but there are guys who do this because they've been burned more than once and hearing it from the lady first hand after reading it makes them more comfortable that they are going to get what they expect.
The thing about not posting your services is that there are many guys out there who might not contact you to begin with then. Now if you have reviews posted outlining the services then this isn't necessarily a big deal then. And if you are getting enough traffic and business then it doesn't really matter then. But if you are seeking new ways to increase traffic, margins, prices and business then I would suggest that this is an avenue to explore.
So the phrase "I would suggest that this is an avenue to explore" is being bossy now??? Overly sensitive? Were you beat up a lot as a child?
I dont mind when I get questions about myself or what I offer because it gives me the opportunity to get a sense of the person I may be alone in room with and I can then decide if I want to go forward with things. Both sides are taking a chance and it's important that we are on equal playing fields and I get to know a bit about who that might be. So yes I can understand your need to know what your walking into!
As for advise on advertising, I take mine from other SP's that I can resonate with, are happy and I respect.
As for advise on advertising, I take mine from other SP's that I can resonate with, are happy and I respect.
That's only a good tip for an SP who can expect to get repeat customers... For a lot of the, um, less reputable SPs the exact opposite would be a good tip.
I guess this discussion did turn a bit ugly (ba-bye huggzy - again) but the OP's point was that ladies don't listen to or care about the gentlemen, and that's just plain not true. Most ladies are actually quite capable of attracting the gentlemen that they're looking for. A pooner, starting a thread, telling the ladies how he thinks they should advertise (for his and others' benefit) is just laughable. As Ms. Sarah has posited, many of us "seem to have found it."What he says is true imho. SP's who are business savvy and know how to market their services effectively are far more successful than those who carelessly throw an ad together.
We all need to find a way to give the clients what they want, without compromising what we're willing to give, and I seem to have found it.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/posited
I believe the OP would have made more friends, had he stated honestly that this is what he'd like to see, because he just really didn't wanna work that hard!
