Actress Brittany Murphy died. Full Cardiac Arrest. Age, 32

[bigben]

So to all you on this thread who insisted that she died from drug abuse - think before you write! R.I.P. Brittany.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/04/brittany.murphy.death/index.html?hpt=T2

Actress Brittany Murphy's death was an accident caused by a combination of pneumonia, an iron deficiency and "multiple drug intoxication," the Los Angeles County coroner said Thursday.

The short statement issued by the coroner's office Thursday did not list the drugs involved, but assistant chief Ed Winter told CNN no illegal drugs were found in Murphy's system.

The primary cause of death was "community acquired pneumonia," but drugs found by the toxicology screening were believed to "play a role in her death," said coroner's spokesman Craig Harvey. "They just were not the primary cause, so they figured into the cause of death, so that's why it's an accidental death."

 

[Adriana✿]

pfffft uh huh

 

[Thatotherguy]

So to all you on this thread who insisted that she died from drug abuse - think before you write! R.I.P. Brittany.

Hm, "multiple drug intoxication" sounds like an OD and/or drug abuse to me. Probably accidental (ie. she didn't know that something she was taking interacted with something else, or she unknowingly took too much), but still.

 

[Adriana✿]

Hm, "multiple drug intoxication" sounds like an OD and/or drug abuse to me. Probably accidental (ie. she didn't know that something she was taking interacted with something else, or she unknowingly took too much), but still.

Exactly! Poor girl. Hollywood takes no prisoners.

 

[mercyshooter]

definitely not drug abuse! they are all prescibed. Means drugs are necessary. Probably doctor's order for her long suffered illness!
Unfortunately she got the cold and didn't re-see the doctor. So, R.I.P.

 

[bigben]

No, she did not die of an OD - if she did the results would have stated that she died from drugs, with her other conditions as a contributing factor - read the results again. What the results mean is: she died of pnemonia and tried to treat her symptoms with over-the-counter drugs when she probably should have seen a doctor right away because of her anemic condition. That's why the cause of death as stated is death by pneumonia - with anemia and non-presecription drugs as a CONTRIBUTING factor - not the cause. Read anything you want into it, but the results are what they are.

A more important point: If you know someone who is sick and has a medical condition, or is showing symptoms out of the ordinary (or if you are personally) - seek medical attention right away, don't wait and hope they go away on their own. Happens often with heart attacks, strokes, pneumonia, allergies.

 

[HubbaHubba]

I bet you it was!!!!

Looks like i won!!!!!

 

[HubbaHubba]

Hm, "multiple drug intoxication" sounds like an OD and/or drug abuse to me.

Sounds like but isn't.

 

[HubbaHubba]

The real issue in this is not a dead woman, it's how the media just salivated over all of this...anxiously waiting to deliver the news that she had indeed overdosed. After all, it's impossible that a fit young woman just MIGHT have an illness we aren't aware of. It really shows what a bunch of douchebags the media are when it comes to the personal lives of "stars".

dood I like this new uber aggressive attitude you have been showing lately. I haven't agreed with everything you've said but a good 90% of it. On this one, you hit the nail on the head!

 

[Thatotherguy]

No, she did not die of an OD - if she did the results would have stated that she died from drugs, with her other conditions as a contributing factor

Actually, that's not quite true. When the cause of death is listed in an OD case, it's usually cardiac arrest (or something similar) with the drugs being listed as either a proximate cause of the cardiac arrest (or whatever), or as a contributing factor. Of course, in this particular case, since the primary cause was pneumonia, it's a little different.

That's why the cause of death as stated is death by pneumonia - with anemia and non-presecription drugs as a CONTRIBUTING factor - not the cause.

I'm not sure you understand what "contributing factor" means. It means that the drugs and other contributing factors are not the primary cause of death, but they are a cause of the death. It means that without the contributing factors, death would likely not have occurred. Without the drug intoxication she would likely still be alive. Same with the anemia.

 

[Thatotherguy]

Sounds like but isn't.

So you would say that multiple drug intoxication is a result of using all of the drugs involved in the manner in which they are intended? Because if not, it's drug abuse, intentional or not. Drug abuse doesn't just mean using drugs you don't need, or using too much of drugs you do need in order to get high. Taking the wrong drugs accidentally, or taking drugs that interact with other drugs you're taking (with or without knowing about the interaction) are also forms of drug abuse, just not the kind that requires an intervention.

Oh yeah, and it looks like porcelianprincess won your bet.

 

[hunsperger]

So you would say that multiple drug intoxication is a result of using all of the drugs involved in the manner in which they are intended? Because if not, it's drug abuse, intentional or not. Drug abuse doesn't just mean using drugs you don't need, or using too much of drugs you do need in order to get high. Taking the wrong drugs accidentally, or taking drugs that interact with other drugs you're taking (with or without knowing about the interaction) are also forms of drug abuse, just not the kind that requires an intervention.

Oh yeah, and it looks like porcelianprincess won your bet.

game, set and match, thatotherguy...

a thorough and efficient dismantling of Hubba...

good work...

Hubba probably didn't get a chance to respond, because he's been in the gym all day working out...

that, and your post went over his head anyways...

 

[bigben]

The better guess is that the intelligent people moved on to a more practical use of their time than arguing about a celebrity's death. Having said that, I do have one last statement:

Brittany Murphy did not die of drug intoxication.

The toxicology report clearly states that the cause of death was pneumonia. With anemia and multiple drug intoxication as contributing factors - not as the cause of death.

If she had died from drug intoxication, the toxicology report would have listed "acute intoxication" as the cause of death (as they did, for example, in the cases of Michael Jackson and Heath Ledger). It did not.

Once again: the listed cause of death was pneumonia. The cause of death was not listed as acute intoxication.

To those who still didn't get it: The listed cause of death was pneumonia. The cause of death was not listed as acute intoxication.

 

[Thatotherguy]

Having said that, I do have one last statement:

So to summarize: you still don't understand what "contributing factor" means, despite having had it explained to you in simple terms just a couple of posts above this. OK, I thought it was pretty clear before, but here it is from a different angle, maybe you'll get it this time. If there's a medical condition which didn't have anything to do with causing a person's death, it doesn't get listed on the report at all. If it's listed, it's one of the causes of death. If it's listed as the primary cause, then it's the most significant factor, if it's listed as a contributing factor, then it's less significant, but still partially responsible. Is that still too complicated for you to figure out?

 

[bigben]

I have no interest in debating this further. For those who do, seek the advice of a qualified medical professional for an understanding of pneumonia and for clarification of terms, or consult a medical dictionary for the meanings of "contributing factor", "cause of death", and "acute intoxication".

Take care of your health, everyone - when in doubt of your health, always seek medical attention, and always remember to read the label on your medicine bottles.

Over and out, I will not back to this thread, which really should be locked up by the mods since it's clearly run its course.

 

[mercyshooter]

I have no interest in debating this further. For those who do, seek the advice of a qualified medical professional for an understanding of pneumonia and for clarification of terms, or consult a medical dictionary for the meanings of "contributing factor", "cause of death", and "acute intoxication".

Take care of your health, everyone - when in doubt of your health, always seek medical attention, and always remember to read the label on your medicine bottles.

Over and out, I will not back to this thread, which really should be locked up by the mods since it's clearly run its course.

Dude, it's about logic. It's like hockey. Yes, you score. But without other's passing you the puck, you won't score!
So, scientifically speaking, without the help of the other drugs, just pneumonia alone won't kill you.
In other words, the drugs help pneumonia to speed up the killing process.
Like I said, if you have other symptoms than you originally have, then you need to see the doctor. In this case, she didn't.
Like the report says, it's a combination of factors and it's an accident!

 

[Thatotherguy]

Dude, it's about logic. It's like hockey. Yes, you score. But without other's passing you the puck, you won't score!
So, scientifically speaking, without the help of the other drugs, just pneumonia alone won't kill you.
In other words, the drugs help pneumonia to speed up the killing process.
Like I said, if you have other symptoms than you originally have, then you need to see the doctor. In this case, she didn't.
Like the report says, it's a combination of factors and it's an accident!

Exactly! Sheesh, I'm glad some people understand simple language...

 

[Big Dog Striker]

She could have been perfect for the lead role in that recent When in Rome movie. Kristen Bell has no star power yet to bring in the crowds.