Hey Luckydog,
Does someone in California owe you money or something, you seem a tad obsessed wit the Cali kids.
And I'm sorry, but most people expect someone who can destroy the whole world if he feels like it can actually express himself in a way that most people can understand. That first debate made him seem like a stuttering madman who couldn't speak English properly, and it makes him seem stupid. Unfortunately for the rest of the country, his spokespeople and his main advisor Rove aren't and Kerry, although correct, was a cold fish and I will admit that. The Dems need a down to earth type guy/gal, like Clinton was.
Bush was the Governor of Texas, the state with the largest amount of illegal immigration. What exactly did he do to stem that tide? Oh, nothing, that's right, because he wants the cheap labor for his business buddies. (And I will grant you that the Dems want them for the possible votes, which is just as wrong). I wish we had a national Initiative process to toughen the immigration laws and stop the flow, and I would be happy to help you collect the signatures on the petition.
BTW, to resolve an issue on a past thread that I didn't want to revive out of respect to the tsunami victims and others on the board, I've never lived in California and have only driven through the Northern part to get to Reno. In fact, I'm a lifelong resident of Washington, born in Renton in 1970. I assume the '71 is a birth year (and I'm sorry if I'm wrong, notice how I'm hedging until I know for sure), so I've lived in Washington longer than you, so no, welcome to you. Plus, I'm a Social worker, and can barely operate a computer.
Finally, you seemed to imply by "you can't tell them much" (liberals) was some kind of potshot at my ability to reason. A friendly piece of advice, if you're gonna talk out of your ass and make assumptions about people, you might wanna wipe it first so you don't cover yourself with shit and look like a fool. This isn't the Limbaugh or Hannity show, here you have to listen to the other side and come with facts.
No ill will, but you reap what you sow.
Gonzo