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dipsett

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does a negative review on perb really have an effect on a sp's clientele?

i was always under the impression that forums like this only represent a small margin of patron's who are interested in writing reviews and researching a provider before they see them & what not, usually that is a specific type of guy..

but i take it the vast majority of other's simply don't have time to do that, or are just not keen or interested in using forums.

anyway maybe this topic has been discussed, but i have noticed name/number changes directly adjacent to bad press and it made me wonder..
 

Lo-ki

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Check your closet..:)
Just use PERB as you see fit for yourself.
 

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Every provider will at some point get a negative review. It's how they handle it professionally that makes the difference. Let's assume for a minute that the negative review was totally justified.

I have off work days, I assume you do too and given the difficulty of handling this job; I assume some SP's will work through a rough work day when they should really use the line "I woke up not feeling well at all and would like to reschedule at a later date".

Nothing wrong with saying it one bit. It's the ones who need to work that day who will get the poor reviews because their Service and Attitude was lacking.

Now the provider who responds positively and professionally to a negative review is the sort I will go see because it indicates to me that she cares about having great service and perhaps she wasn't on her game that day. I can think of a few that did exactly that in a poor review and turned out to be amazing. Conversely, ones who do not reply, or attack the OP, or make up a lame excuse that their phone has been acting up are the ones to avoid or at least raise a red flag that something might not be adding up.

Now the ones who don't give a rats ass will repeatedly change their names and get a new disposable phone to assume yet another name. Those are the threads you need to look out for in the reviews area.
 

odonnell

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A great many service providers can be advertising their services for many years and never get reviewed. Most clients just don't bother posting reviews if they are leaving content and happy with the lady. I suspect there might also be many who leave unhappy who won't bother posting about it. If a lady you are considering seeing has some reviews to look over, that might help you make your decision about seeing her, but the lack of a review usually means most clients are happy with the lady. If you see someone with no reviews, do consider taking one for the team and posting one for her and do monitor it and report anyone who is responding to it in a clear effort to demean you or the lady just for their own egos. A good review is not an invitation for those who have not seen the lady to make snide comments about how they would never see someone who is that big, or old or whatever. The ladies can also report posts in a review that are totally uncalled for and rude so the moderators are made aware of what is going on.
 

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One bad review of an SP that has tons of excellent reviews will not affect her much. A girl who only has one good review and a bunch of bad reviews, well that's different.
Depends on where it is posted too. The other board does not allow any bad reviews so you have to double check them against this one.
This question would not even be allowed there LOL
 

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Addendum: totally disagree with the idea that a lack of reviews means most customers are content. That is insane and defies common sense, without information you cannot assume anything. She may have no reviews because she is new, or nobody has seen her, or she is so bad that nobody would believe an accurate review.
 

badbadboy

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A great many service providers can be advertising their services for many years and never get reviewed. Most clients just don't bother posting reviews if they are leaving content and happy with the lady. I suspect there might also be many who leave unhappy who won't bother posting about it. If a lady you are considering seeing has some reviews to look over, that might help you make your decision about seeing her, but the lack of a review usually means most clients are happy with the lady. If you see someone with no reviews, do consider taking one for the team and posting one for her and do monitor it and report anyone who is responding to it in a clear effort to demean you or the lady just for their own egos. A good review is not an invitation for those who have not seen the lady to make snide comments about how they would never see someone who is that big, or old or whatever. The ladies can also report posts in a review that are totally uncalled for and rude so the moderators are made aware of what is going on.
I generally agree with this post based upon a few SP's that I have repeated with many times. I along with a select few clients repeat consistently and they are not really the type to encourage reviews. I am sure if there were a negative review from someone it would be like I said that they may not have been on top of her game that day or it was a YMMV scenario.

There is also the selfish part of a pooner's mind too. It's like if I crow about the awesome service I received, I may not be able to see her again for a month because of all the people wanting to see her. :doh:

One bad review of an SP that has tons of excellent reviews will not affect her much. A girl who only has one good review and a bunch of bad reviews, well that's different.
Depends on where it is posted too. The other board does not allow any bad reviews so you have to double check them against this one.
This question would not even be allowed there LOL
Exactly. If they have a string of positive reviews and there was a poor connection which the pooner blamed on the SP in a negative review the other satisfied clients would surely chime in and let them know they had a positive experience.

If I see a string of negative reviews and all of a sudden a glowing review pops up, I assume its either a Self Review by the SP under a new name, a Shill from a friend or some guy didn't know a good session from a bad one and was just happy to have popped his nuts.

Addendum: totally disagree with the idea that a lack of reviews means most customers are content. That is insane and defies common sense, without information you cannot assume anything. She may have no reviews because she is new, or nobody has seen her, or she is so bad that nobody would believe an accurate review.
Or it could mean she discourages reviews. Not DNR but really some of the reviews do get a bit too much like a Penthouse Forum letter which can make the SP very uncomfortable even if its a positive review.

Or it could mean that nobody on this forum or any other forum has seen her nor has an interest in seeing her :eyebrows:

Now that is a topic for you. An SP who has no reviews anywhere to be found either positive or negative and yet is very much present.
 

odonnell

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Thanks for that input odonnell. It for helped me to understand the process a little better.... I have been a member here for awhile, but only recently participating on the forum so I am still learning how things really work here, and I appreciate what you had to say here.
Thank you and I should have also clarified that the ladies can only post their responses to a review in their own review and not a review of another lady. That is an important point that most ladies know already, but some may not have read all the rules so I don't want to mislead them in that regard.
 

odonnell

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Addendum: totally disagree with the idea that a lack of reviews means most customers are content. That is insane and defies common sense, without information you cannot assume anything. She may have no reviews because she is new, or nobody has seen her, or she is so bad that nobody would believe an accurate review.
Having talked to a lot of the mature providers, I can assure you they don't get reviews to the same extent that the younger ones do and many ladies don't post ads on review sites thus are not attracting clients who post reviews or even know there is such a thing as reviews. Many sites have view counts on their ads so the readers seeing a high view count in the thousands know she is not new. I imagine anyone giving very poor service would get complained about before too long to either the sites they post on or in a review, however, the great majority of the ladies are in business to stay in business and offer the best services they can to their clients. Clients do need to do their homework to ensure the lady they choose does indeed offer the specific services wanted and not make assumptions as we know some do and are then disappointed.
 
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Addendum: totally disagree with the idea that a lack of reviews means most customers are content. That is insane and defies common sense, without information you cannot assume anything. She may have no reviews because she is new, or nobody has seen her, or she is so bad that nobody would believe an accurate review.
Lack of reviews could also mean Hidden Gem. No one wants her worn out and jaded by pooners. There's always a few gems out there.
 

randomlife

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does a negative review on perb really have an effect on a sp's clientele?

i was always under the impression that forums like this only represent a small margin of patron's who are interested in writing reviews and researching a provider before they see them & what not, usually that is a specific type of guy..

but i take it the vast majority of other's simply don't have time to do that, or are just not keen or interested in using forums.

anyway maybe this topic has been discussed, but i have noticed name/number changes directly adjacent to bad press and it made me wonder..
Although I'm sure the moderators could give you better stats, I think on average there's probably only a half dozen new reviews a day here (for Vancouver) that are seen by about 500 people within the first couple of days. Backpage probably runs about 200 ads a day in the escort section, not to mention the other advertising resources.

I suspect negative reviews have a much larger impact in smaller markets where there are only 10-30 ads per day and are sometimes are lucky to see a review once a week/month.
 

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does a negative review on perb really have an effect on a sp's clientele?

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Well, seeing how hard some try to keep honest negative reviews off a board like this, they must have some effect. Between attacks on the thread itself to PM threats, all that anger/hate would seemingly not show up if it was felt there was no effect. Right?
 

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Although I'm sure the moderators could give you better stats, I think on average there's probably only a half dozen new reviews a day here (for Vancouver) that are seen by about 500 people within the first couple of days. Backpage probably runs about 200 ads a day in the escort section, not to mention the other advertising resources.
There are about fifty ads a day in the Winnipeg BP. Reviews indicate many of them are SPs that give horrible service or are outright scammers.

But those same SPs have been in the business for years, running the exact same ad, same pics, same phone number. So all those negative reviews have zero effect.
 

westwoody

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Well, seeing how hard some try to keep honest negative reviews off a board like this, they must have some effect. Between attacks on the thread itself to PM threats, all that anger/hate would seemingly not show up if it was felt there was no effect. Right?
Some women take it really personally when they are criticised. Especially if it is a physical thing.

Remember one Vancouver SP went off the deep end when a well known reviewer saw her and said "she wasn't that pretty". She had never posted face shots in any ads before. In response she posted a bunch of face shots asking "I'm pretty don't you think?" Ended up looking like an attention starved loonie. If she hadn't responded the thread would have been forgotten a day later. Instead it turned into an epic.
 

randomlife

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There are about fifty ads a day in the Winnipeg BP. Reviews indicate many of them are SPs that give horrible service or are outright scammers.

But those same SPs have been in the business for years, running the exact same ad, same pics, same phone number. So all those negative reviews have zero effect.
Ouch...... if I ever need another reason not to move to Winnipeg
 

take8easy

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Just to ad my two cents worth, it has to have some impact but may be not as big as one thinks.

I saw Riza last week and she said many/large number of her clients don't even know about forums. They just see the ads and contact her.

Personally speaking, I do rely a lot on forums. I remember not doing enough research and following Mr Dickson to an SP and it was not very good experience. I also was stood up by an SP in Abbotsford who seems to be notorious for that (as it says on her reviews).
On the contrary, I have checked a few SP's off my wish list (and pushed some down the priority list) based on forum reviews. That's why I had to face only one real disappointment.

Forums are great tools, if you rely on them. For those who don't use forums, they just TOFTT each time. But I am sure even they ask around for tips from their circle of friends/co-workers. After all this is service industry and word of mouth counts a lot.

IMOH we forum regulars aren't in majority when it comes to service seekers. :)
 
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