8 dead in 3 shootings at Atlanta area massage parlours.

[Andrew69913]

Well I'm sorry, most Asians I have heard are feeling different. They feel it was racially motivated, they feel threatened. They don't think it's being over-hyped in the media. I will go with what they are feeling and expressing.

 

[DrunkWhenSober]

Well I'm sorry, most Asians I have heard are feeling different. They feel it was racially motivated, they feel threatened. They don't think it's being over-hyped in the media. I will go with what they are feeling and expressing.

Of course they're feeling it's racially motivated because it's not an Asian that shot up the spa but a different race. Jumping straight to race is pretty stupid

 

[jeffy87]

@jeffy87 one last comment before I exit this conversation. I remember you, sometime during the summer last year, you said in the forum that you are a CBC, and you have given up chasing after ABGs because they only/always date white guys.

It is ironic that you are the same person that says: "If you date outside your race then you can't be racist." You don't realize you have been racially discriminated yourself by ABGs who only date white guys.

Peace out bro

thats more of a personal preference . let them be . i used to care in my younger days . these days im like thanks since you didnt waste my time. abundance mentality mindset
ABGs are nothing but parties and drugs from my own experience.

 

[Drjohn]

Thanks a lot, Trump.

NBC News: NYPD has deployed Critical Response Command (CRC) units to Asian communities citywide following a series of shooting incidents in Atlanta which could have been directed toward the Asian community.

Zero to do with Trump. Try some research.

 

[The Caffeinated Gent]

Yes, it is tragic that they were mostly Asian, at this time where Asian are unduly mistreated, but this is a story about a young man driven insane by the conflict between sex forbidden by his religion and his biological need for it.

This was a hate crime. It has nothing to do with sex addiction. Let's look at the facts: Only 4% of the population in Georgia is Asian. Yet 6 out of 8 victims were Asian. And all of the businesses being targeted were owned by Asians. Let's not forget a statement from a witness who heard the shooter said: "I'm going to kill all Asians."

Yea, he was 100% troubled, but he was also fueled by his racist hatred. Period. The number of people trying to cover the nature of the crime is disgusting. Well I guess that's the internet for ya. Whether you are spilling truth or talking bullshit you will always get responded.

 

[The Caffeinated Gent]

thats more of a personal preference . let them be . i used to care in my younger days . these days im like thanks since you didnt waste my time. abundance mentality mindset
ABGs are nothing but parties and drugs from my own experience.

Haha! You are so in denial right now. You act like a kid who after realizing that he couldn't get what he wanted, he went into denial mode and said: "Eh I don't want it in the first place anyway." But you know, congratulations on moving on I guess!

 

[jeffy87]

Haha! You are so in denial right now. You act like a kid who after realizing that he couldn't get what he wanted, he went into denial mode and said: "Eh I don't want it in the first place anyway." But you know, congratulations on moving on I guess!

thats fact in life. you cant always get what you want
at sametime i dont want a Ratchet girl types. lot drama dont blame me if i dont want a hood rat

 

[masterblaster]

Zero to do with Trump. Try some research.

No, trump didn’t say anything inflammatory by often referring to the China virus or the Kung flu.

 

[jeffy87]

Yes, that is about it. I believe that my relative did fantasize about the submissive nature of Asian women. Perhaps part of his attraction to Asian women is that his father was quite racist against Asians. Ironically his father changed his own attitude towards race and became far more positive to Asians and is good to his grandchildren. I watch it all but certainly can't explain any of it.

asian girls i know are far from submissive.

maybe the ones working in low level jobs and new to the country.

 

[jeffy87]

Oh, but it does happen. Now I'm not sure about having mixed kids, but I have seen way too many racist white dudes recording their own hate speech toward the Asian community meanwhile they are married to an Asian wife. In fact I vaguely recall an incident happened either in Vancouver or somewhere else in Canada, inside a T&T store, a white dude went off telling the employee to go back to China because he was being asked to wear a mask, it was a recorded video of him shouting racial slurs to the employee, all while his Asian wife standing by his side not saying a word or didn't try to stop him. We are looking at the husband's behaviour not the wife. I don't know if he has children with his wife, but he was clearly racist and hateful toward the Asian community, and he is married to an Asian woman. I still find it ridiculous, but it happens. And thanks to @g eazy it was explained perfectly. So yes, apparently you can be racist and still date a woman from that race, you are delusional if you really don't see it right here in our city.

weird
if you dont like asians then dont be a customer of theirs, the shooter was a previous customer
dont shell out your hard earned dollars and support them if you dont like them.
i knew a chinese girl who didnt like the japanese. when i told her i visited japan and had a jp ex gf dated a few i noticed a sour look. She later lectured me on the history.
It was a huge turnoff plus she wasnt my type .
i have nothing against nobody.

 

[oldshark]

asian girls i know are far from submissive.

maybe the ones working in low level jobs and new to the country.

Exactly. I know Chinese girls who are not submissive and others who are. Typically not. The range of attitude applies to women of other races as well. However my relative believed in the concept of the submissive Asian. Many of the old movies from Hollywood studios portrayed Asian women as such.

 

[rubintugger]

So...are you saying if a man doesn't get laid...he's liable to go bat shit crazy? If it was simply about sex he could have chosen any place where women gather. Why does it have to be one single reason or the other? This guy has many issues, and whether he knows it or not there was racial; motivation in this crime. Don't you find that most racists deny or are blind to the fact that they are racist?

I am saying that the current religious mores pits biological drives against religious belief, in a way that can have catastrophic results. It is widely reported that this monster had a terrible conflict, and identified these spots as temptation. If he was attacking Asian through a racist desire, I'm sure he could have found a better outlet for that at a restaurant in Chinatown.

The fact that there are groups now identifying as "Involuntary celibate" shows that there is a serious issue that is pitting troubled men against women. Yes, if a man doesn't get laid, he can go batshit crazy. We see stories of this all the time. This is more prevalent in the US because of two reasons. Religious factions that stigmatize sex, and an easy access to weaponry capable of massive damage. I have no doubt that sexual frustration has worldwide distribution, it just has a critical mass situation in the US.

Again, using this attack as a rallying point against Asian hate, while it is very effective, is really unfortunate in one way. And that is the fact this should be being used to condemn certain religious practices, and call for regulation and protection of sex workers, and mostly to call for better gun control.

As to racists denying they are racists, are you serious? The first thing a terrorist does when he perpetrates an event of racial violence is claim that it is racial violence. That is the whole reason for committing racial violence is to make their point. I have yet to see a racially motivated crime denied by the perpetrator as being racially motivated.

 

[jeffy87]

Exactly. I know Chinese girls who are not submissive and others who are. Typically not. The range of attitude applies to women of other races as well. However my relative believed in the concept of the submissive Asian. Many of the old movies from Hollywood studios portrayed Asian women as such.

not the ones in vancouver. used work at upscale retailer. they had major entitled attitudes. not just that but met a few online too. entitled, ego , not all of course

 

[Cock Throppled]

This was a hate crime. It has nothing to do with sex addiction. Let's look at the facts: Only 4% of the population in Georgia is Asian. Yet 6 out of 8 victims were Asian. And all of the businesses being targeted were owned by Asians. Let's not forget a statement from a witness who heard the shooter said: "I'm going to kill all Asians."

Yea, he was 100% troubled, but he was also fueled by his racist hatred. Period. The number of people trying to cover the nature of the crime is disgusting. Well I guess that's the internet for ya. Whether you are spilling truth or talking bullshit you will always get responded.

Try to guess how many Asians would be likely to be working in an AMP, despite statistics for a city or state, over-all?

Guess where he was a previous customer, spent his money and enjoyed the company of the Asians you claim he hates? If he was so full of hatred for Asians, why not go spend his time and money at MP's employing whites or blacks?

Why are you so racist as to discount the two non-Asian lives that were taken? They're meaningless because it doesn't fit your one-direction narrative?

 

[Newb808]

I personally did forget that he said , “I’m going to kill all Asians”, because other than that one tweet, I can’t find any accounts of that happening. I believe the American media would have ran it if they could have attributed and or verified the quote.
I don’t think it’s a bridge too far to assume that he saw his victims as less than and that their “other” race may have contributed to that state of mind. I suspect first and foremost though that his issue was with the “sinners” who tempted and corrupted his poor evangelical soul(let me be clear here I believe he’s a misogynist 1st degree mass murderer with no excuse full stop.) I don’t believe in sex addiction per se. I do believe, however, that church he attended as well the faith based treatment centre(which apparently had ties to gay conversion therapy) he was a “patient” at seems to have played a bigger role in his malicious-misogynistic mental state than any other external influence or belief. Maybe more will be revealed but the account of the former roommate, from a halfway house, of Long’s is quite telling.

 

[The Caffeinated Gent]

Try to guess how many Asians would be likely to be working in an AMP, despite statistics for a city or state, over-all?

Guess where he was a previous customer, spent his money and enjoyed the company of the Asians you claim he hates? If he was so full of hatred for Asians, why not go spend his time and money at MP's employing whites or blacks?

Why are you so racist as to discount the two non-Asian lives that were taken? They're meaningless because it doesn't fit your one-direction narrative?

Because, one, enjoying the company of Asian women does not mean he likes the Asian community. That is a fact and it happens way too often. When a person who has married an Asian woman expresses racist attitude toward the Asian community. Yes he might enjoy the company of Asian women, but that is based on fetishism of Asian women, which means he never saw Asian women as equal and that explained why he had no hesitation to take their lives.

I NEVER said I discounted the two non-Asian lives that were taken. It is terrible that lives were taken regardless of their ethnicity. But I was talking about the motive, what motivated him to do the shooting. Which was racially motivated, because, one, like you said, massage parlours is a place where Asian women workers account for the majority, that's why he chose it for the shooting, and of course there were women of other ethnicity working there, not discounting them, had their lives taken too, unfortunately. Two, all massage parlours he went to were Asian owned businesses. That means he targeted those businesses.

I have expressed myself clear enough, and I have noticed you are exhibiting the classic sign of someone picking up a fight. They refuse to listen to the logic in other's arguments, stand their ground and try to irritate others by shaming them based on what they claimed to be the intention of their opponent's comments. Like you claimed I was being racist. When what I said was that the nature of the crime is a racially motivated hate crime, and other ethnicities also fell victim in the violent clash. But I have never said their lives were meaningless. So I am going to stop the argument, I have no interest in correcting your entitlement. One last word, fetishism of Asian women, like you said the shooter enjoys the company of Asian women, is racist in itself.

Peace out

 

[The Caffeinated Gent]

Exactly. I know Chinese girls who are not submissive and others who are. Typically not. The range of attitude applies to women of other races as well. However my relative believed in the concept of the submissive Asian. Many of the old movies from Hollywood studios portrayed Asian women as such.

I think you relative grew up in an environment where he didn't have much close relationship with Asian women in his early life, but stereotypes of the ethnicity in mainstream medias, like the old Hollywood movies you mentioned, that subconsciously influenced how your relative views them. Versus you grew up in a different era where you had more interaction with Asian women in your life and that shaped your different perception of Asian women. And I think that is a good thing.

 

[Tati]

I NEVER said I discounted the two non-Asian lives that were taken. It is terrible that lives were taken regardless of their ethnicity. But I was talking about the motive, what motivated him to do the shooting. Which was racially motivated, because, one, like you said, massage parlours is a place where Asian women workers account for the majority, that's why he chose it for the shooting, and of course there were women of other ethnicity working there, not discounting them, had their lives taken too, unfortunately. Two, all massage parlours he went to were Asian owned businesses. That means he targeted those businesses.

I agree with some of the points you've made, but I respectfully disagree with this statement in particular.

I believe he targeted those businesses because they were places he frequented to satisfy his sexual urges which he believed to be evil. He seemed to be conditioned to believe what he was doing was so wrong and therefore he was eliminating the temptation. Yes, Asians may be a minority in Atlanta, but how many Caucasian massage parlors are there in ATL? How many Black massage parlors are there? You can't deny the fact that there are more AMPs than anything else. That's why we use that abbreviation. How many times have you read on the boards about CMPs or BMPs or even SAMPs? When's the last time you went to an Indian Massage Parlor?

This is not about race, as much as Americans and/or the US media would like it to be. Don't take the bait and divide us all further. This is about mental health, gun control and religious guilt.

 

[Tati]

Do you really believe this guy just hated Asians and went to more than one massage parlor targeting Asians? Give your head a shake. As someone mentioned before he could have just gone to Chinatown and opened fire in some restaurants or something...

 

[Newb808]

Do you really believe this guy just hated Asians and went to more than one massage parlor targeting Asians? Give your head a shake. As someone mentioned before he could have just gone to Chinatown and opened fire in some restaurants or something...

Right. The first attack was at a spa he used to “relapse” at that was this

close to his evangelical “treatment centre.” He had a personal connection to these spas and initially accessed them, years ago, due to their convenience and safety. I’m not downplaying the fetishization angle or likelihood that race played some roll in his state of mind.