8 dead in 3 shootings at Atlanta area massage parlours.
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Oh, but it does happen. Now I'm not sure about having mixed kids, but I have seen way too many racist white dudes recording their own hate speech toward the Asian community meanwhile they are married to an Asian wife. In fact I vaguely recall an incident happened either in Vancouver or somewhere else in Canada, inside a T&T store, a white dude went off telling the employee to go back to China because he was being asked to wear a mask, it was a recorded video of him shouting racial slurs to the employee, all while his Asian wife standing by his side not saying a word or didn't try to stop him. We are looking at the husband's behaviour not the wife. I don't know if he has children with his wife, but he was clearly racist and hateful toward the Asian community, and he is married to an Asian woman. I still find it ridiculous, but it happens. And thanks to @g eazy it was explained perfectly. So yes, apparently you can be racist and still date a woman from that race, you are delusional if you really don't see it right here in our city.
Definitely happens. One of my relatives is married to a Chinese girl and he acts in this way. He has several kids as well and they have a negative attitude to Chinese despite being mixed. I think they are all screwed up.
what a shame. married somebody but you hate your partners race. cognitive dissonance
People with that kind of attitude are very common in our city, how do you not see it despite living in the city? It's both in the news and in our daily lives, hence why I said you sound delusional in your comments.
I'm not going to give a deep analysis on that issue, but I would argue white supremacy has to do with how mixed children think about their other race that is considered a minority in the society. When in a interracial marriage the dominant one, the male, happens to be the dominant race, not minority. How he educates his kids, education. Nuf said.
For those people who still don't get it, even I didn't until @g eazy posted his comments earlier. I am going to try to explain this phenomenon very quickly and hopefully it will be digested instead of ignored this time.
When an interracial marriage is based on the fact that the female and her race is being devalued, such as she was considered "easy", "submissive" and the male "scored" an easy, submissive girl, the mixed children growing up in such household are unlikely to have a positive image of their mother's race. Especially, one, if this type of interracial marriages are too prevalent in the society, e.g. It's mostly white males with Asian females. Two, if in an interracial marriage, the male himself has a racist attitude toward his wife's race and he educates his own mixed children his racism.
When an interracial marriage is based on the fact that the female and her race is being devalued, such as she was considered "easy", "submissive" and the male "scored" an easy, submissive girl, the mixed children growing up in such household are unlikely to have a positive image of their mother's race. Especially, one, if this type of interracial marriages are too prevalent in the society, e.g. It's mostly white males with Asian females. Two, if in an interracial marriage, the male himself has a racist attitude toward his wife's race and he educates his own mixed children his racism.
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Andrew69913
I'm not willing to give him that credit. That's insinuating that these people don't know that what they are doing is wrong. They do. They know when they are caught they will be punished. They simply believe that what they want is more important than anyone or anything else.
i dont run across too many people who scream racial epithets while with their non white gf . says a lot about the girl whos in his company too. low hanging fruit per say type of girl. any high value girl would kick him curb
Well, they do exist. Both the guy and the girl. And that overcomes your opinion: "If you date outside of your race then you can't be racist." Yes you can.
@jeffy87 one last comment before I exit this conversation. I remember you, sometime during the summer last year, you said in the forum that you are a CBC, and you have given up chasing after ABGs because they only/always date white guys.
It is ironic that you are the same person that says: "If you date outside your race then you can't be racist." You don't realize you have been racially discriminated yourself by ABGs who only date white guys.
Peace out bro
It is ironic that you are the same person that says: "If you date outside your race then you can't be racist." You don't realize you have been racially discriminated yourself by ABGs who only date white guys.
Peace out bro
Yes, that is about it. I believe that my relative did fantasize about the submissive nature of Asian women. Perhaps part of his attraction to Asian women is that his father was quite racist against Asians. Ironically his father changed his own attitude towards race and became far more positive to Asians and is good to his grandchildren. I watch it all but certainly can't explain any of it.
I really, really don't want this to be taken wrong. I do not want to make light of the fact that this attack had a deep effect on the Asian community.
I am abhored by the anti-Asian violence that is happening, the attacks on elderly women and men in the streets by thugs, the racial slurs in connection with COVID-19, and the weaponizing of race by White Supremists.
That said, I don't think this attack was "racially motivated". Watching Bill Maher's show, I get what he was trying to say.
This was a tragic loss of human life, at the hands of a troubled man with easy access to weapons. THAT is the message we need to take from this.
Had he frequented Armenian massage parlors, and decided to take away his temptation by eliminating the source and shot up 3 Armenian massage parlors, killing 6 Armenian sex workers, would we be seeing this as an attack on Armenians?
It is unfortunate that this industry is so vulnerable, and that Asian women make up such a large percentage of the workforce.
The perpetrator said it was not racially motivated. This guy's roommate said there was never any mention of race being a consideration. Just a sex addiction, and a struggle with his religious beliefs. This obviously created a mental schism which allowed him to justify buying weapons and using them on his targets.
Yes, Asian hate is at an all time epidemic level, and it is sad that this it takes this to bring it to the forefront. But I think the more important aspect of this incident is not the Asian side, but the sex workers side. That is a true tragedy, that the stigmatization of sex work, the forcing it underground and putting vulnerable women into that workforce, and then not giving them the support of protection they deserve is the key here has left 8 people dead.
Sex workers, from massage parlors through escorts deserve some legal standing in society, and through that support and protection. That should be the rallying cry from this incident. Yes, it is tragic that they were mostly Asian, at this time where Asian are unduly mistreated, but this is a story about a young man driven insane by the conflict between sex forbidden by his religion and his biological need for it.
Until we rationalize sex work, and give people who are trapped in situations (be it cult, be it religion, be it social circumstance) the tools they need to address their issues related to a healthy sex life, we will not resolve these issues. If anything, the current atmosphere is making it much, much worse. Add to that the easy access to weapons capable of mass murder, society is holding a book of matches standing in a room filled with gasoline.
Again, I am not making light of the tragedy this is for the Asian community, my heart goes out to the victims and their families. But by transferring the blame to anti-Asian hate rather than the conflict between religion and sex and the access to mass murder weapons does not address the actual issue here.
It does help address the issue of anti-Asian sentiment, and hopefully that gets addressed as well, but please, let us also work towards a healthier environment for sex, sex workers and the mental health of those caught between society's mores and their human desires.
I am abhored by the anti-Asian violence that is happening, the attacks on elderly women and men in the streets by thugs, the racial slurs in connection with COVID-19, and the weaponizing of race by White Supremists.
That said, I don't think this attack was "racially motivated". Watching Bill Maher's show, I get what he was trying to say.
This was a tragic loss of human life, at the hands of a troubled man with easy access to weapons. THAT is the message we need to take from this.
Had he frequented Armenian massage parlors, and decided to take away his temptation by eliminating the source and shot up 3 Armenian massage parlors, killing 6 Armenian sex workers, would we be seeing this as an attack on Armenians?
It is unfortunate that this industry is so vulnerable, and that Asian women make up such a large percentage of the workforce.
The perpetrator said it was not racially motivated. This guy's roommate said there was never any mention of race being a consideration. Just a sex addiction, and a struggle with his religious beliefs. This obviously created a mental schism which allowed him to justify buying weapons and using them on his targets.
Yes, Asian hate is at an all time epidemic level, and it is sad that this it takes this to bring it to the forefront. But I think the more important aspect of this incident is not the Asian side, but the sex workers side. That is a true tragedy, that the stigmatization of sex work, the forcing it underground and putting vulnerable women into that workforce, and then not giving them the support of protection they deserve is the key here has left 8 people dead.
Sex workers, from massage parlors through escorts deserve some legal standing in society, and through that support and protection. That should be the rallying cry from this incident. Yes, it is tragic that they were mostly Asian, at this time where Asian are unduly mistreated, but this is a story about a young man driven insane by the conflict between sex forbidden by his religion and his biological need for it.
Until we rationalize sex work, and give people who are trapped in situations (be it cult, be it religion, be it social circumstance) the tools they need to address their issues related to a healthy sex life, we will not resolve these issues. If anything, the current atmosphere is making it much, much worse. Add to that the easy access to weapons capable of mass murder, society is holding a book of matches standing in a room filled with gasoline.
Again, I am not making light of the tragedy this is for the Asian community, my heart goes out to the victims and their families. But by transferring the blame to anti-Asian hate rather than the conflict between religion and sex and the access to mass murder weapons does not address the actual issue here.
It does help address the issue of anti-Asian sentiment, and hopefully that gets addressed as well, but please, let us also work towards a healthier environment for sex, sex workers and the mental health of those caught between society's mores and their human desires.
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Andrew69913
So...are you saying if a man doesn't get laid...he's liable to go bat shit crazy? If it was simply about sex he could have chosen any place where women gather. Why does it have to be one single reason or the other? This guy has many issues, and whether he knows it or not there was racial; motivation in this crime. Don't you find that most racists deny or are blind to the fact that they are racist?
Here's my worthless take. Society/ media has programmed us to jump on the racist and terrorist bandwagons far too easily. I ask you for specific details as why you feel this was racial, as opposed to an attack on sex workers, or women in general? If I go out and kill an NBA team is it because I'm racist, hate men, hate sports, or some other reason? I'm from Winnipeg and almost every time there is an article about Aboriginals it has a racist angle. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, or that none of these cases are racially motivated, but not all of them. Maybe I don't have all the facts. If there were also white and black people working in the spas and he bypassed them and only killed asian women, then I would say sure clearly appears to be racial. I haven't heard that this is the case. It is an unfortunate event and the guy has issues but what information have I missed that makes this a racial crime?
This is an excellent editorial on the media's narrative, that doesn't even care about actual reportage, but is more interested in inflaming things, and pushing "racism" wherever they can. (Had to link to NY Post, as his site is a pay site)...https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/8-dead-in-3-shootings-at-atlanta-area-massage-parlours.300513/
