2025 Canadian Political Thread

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The Largest economy is the US (there is some concern that the GNP numbers are fake, using overseas manufacturing to inflate the US companies), but China will surpass them in the next 5-10 years if they haven't already. China's influence will take away the international standard of the American dollar.

Just look at China's shipbuilding industry compared to the US industry (which is running out of trained labour to produce ships).

Its only a matter of time before Canada will collect on those revenues (on DST), and issues warrants to Companies CEOs/CFOs for failure to pay, even if they live in the US.

Canada will have to go through some growing pains, if it wants to untie itself from the US economy. If we want to become a a big energy producers, Canadians will need to change how it does mining and mineral resources to hold a % back for future generations or tax heavily on those resources being sold now.

Our model will be the environmental problems (soil, air, water pollution) the USA did to its environment all in the name of progress. Lets not forget that today we are still finding companies that dumped toxic chemicals (in the USA in the last 140 years) all in the name of increasing profits. And let not forget the massive fraud these companies do by hiding those same profits under shell companies (numbered companies).

The thing is the Fed and prov governments will have to cut into social programs in order to afford a new economy and new military spending.

Canada could come up with a "bitcoin", backed by metal and rare earth reserves (through a 5-40% tax on precious metals mining). They could also charge a small fee or 0.5% to 2 % for every transaction the bitcoin makes (calling this the tax, which the fed government can bring in). The bitcoin would have assets.
 

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All the shit talkers aside, and really they can go fk themselves, it sure seems to me that is a great time to be Canadian!
 
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A tanker being loaded with the first cargo of Canadian liquefied natural gas is shown at the port of Kitimat, B.C., on June 28, 2025, photo provided by LNG Canada.

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The LNG Canada plant will receive natural gas from near Dawson Creek, B.C., via the 670-kilometre Coastal GasLink pipeline. In Kitimat, the LNG Canada plant will liquefy and export the gas overseas. (CBC News)

...billed by the federal government as the biggest private-sector investment in Canadian history — $40 billion between the port operation, the northeast B.C. gas fields supplying it and the pipeline in between.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kitimat-lng-gaslog-glasgow-1.7574703

Shell is the largest partner in LNG Canada, with a 40-per-cent stake, followed by Malaysia's Petronas at 25 per cent. The other co-owners are PetroChina (15 per cent), Japan's Mitsubishi Corp. (15 per cent) and South Korea's Kogas (5 per cent).

Shell, or Shell plc, is a British-Dutch multinational oil and gas company owned by its shareholders. While no single shareholder has a dominant stake, institutional investors BlackRock and Capital Research Global Investors hold significant portions of the company's stock.

If Alberta Premier Danielle Smith comes up with cash and consultations she can have another oil pipe through BC. Hats off to BC government seeing project through without spending.
 

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How much of the Canadian pipeline is owned by Canadians?
Typical of stupid Canadians invest in the global economy, then in their own country.
Only the governments can afford to buy into Canada, with taxpayer money.
What are some investments that invest only in Canadian infrastructure?
 

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All the shit talkers aside, and really they can go fk themselves, it sure seems to me that is a great time to be Canadian!
Seriously?
There are problems in Canada. Social and Economic problems. Seems people want to bypass that and just call each other names like in elementary school.

The privileges we enjoy today (lets read that as I have money); Don't mean we will enjoy those same privileges tomorrow (when the money runs out).

The best smell of money is driving by a log mill. Not so many of those these days are most of our forested areas have been clear-cut or being burned out by forest fires. Environmentally not everybody obeys the rules when it comes to environmental stuff.

Another problem is we have a aging population, and bad service old folk homes. Kids get sticker price shock, when they ask how much it will cost to put elderly parent into jail.
The amount of theft that goes on in these place is terrible. Pretty much an asshole/lowest form of scum, if you steal shirts from a old man in a care home.
In 5-7 years all the baby boomers will be retired. And 6 years after (at 71) that they have to withdraw from all their RRSP. From that point on the mutual funds will slowly depreciate, as the baby boomers take money out of their RRSP into RIFs.

Yeah its Good to be a Canadian, when your vote dosen't count, cause electing Carney, hasn't changed a thing.

The government controls everything, and the population doesn't matter, their vote doesn't matter. Cause if their vote mattered, the government wouldn't have to tax you over 50% of your take home pay just to live in Canada (including rent/mortgage). If your vote mattered, the government would change things, to make your life better.
Mostly what I seen in my life, is "don't pay now", we will tax you later (when taxes are higher).... hint think RRSPs.

Take a look at the US. The longterm economy of the US is now in question. The American dollar will decline in priority (for investors and governments). That means falling trade with other countries in the world. Environmentally the US is fucked (think chemical spills at anywhere they had a factory in the US and surrounding water systems). The US has a criminal problem with illegal drugs, and police are scared to go into certain sections of cities in the US. The US is polarized by democrats and republican. The US is over- extended by the Ukraine war and its encirclement of China. China wants Russia to continue the war, so that the US bleeds itself over this conflict and won't be able to help in the Far East when China invades Taiwan. The US used its big economy to win the cold war over Russia. China is using the same thing, making the US overextend. The US will crumble from within just like Rome and Russia.

IN Canada we don't make ships, or heavy tanks, or submarines, no heavy industry to make weapons (say like a 150mm gun barrel- no infrastructure). Canada supplies the raw materials while its manufacturing system really really sucks. It banks are heavily invested in mortgages and not engaging in industriall manufacturing. The major banks all are HQ in tax havens, and don't pay their fair share of taxes in Canada.

Covid caused inflation due to " printing money" (the gov did not technically, but let the banks print it unofficially), and shortfalls in supply chains due to manufacturing in the world being shut down. To combat inflation, interest rates rose.

Its great to be a Canadian, because the Canadian gov just bends you over nicely and fucks you up the ass. And you all like it.
 
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And there it is.
The low wattage just can't help themselves I suppose.
 

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In Canada things have been good since the 1950s. There were problems in the 1990s, and now thirty years later our system is too overloaded, with taxes and cost of living, social pressures, political disparity between parties etc. Our society is a powder keg ready to go off.

Ever notice that all professional sports are contact sports, even though any particular league says they are not. Look at Baseball, Basketball, soccer and hockey, wrestling, MMF. There is always some type of physical interaction between the teams/individuals playing a game. Violence. Most people would say its not violence, but it is. Same reason why Rome had gladiatorial fights to the death, it relieved the angst of the common citizen. How many fans get worked up over a hockey game? Some people like the hitting and checking game more than goals scored.

Look at concerts, look at how many people are stoned at concerts. Relief from society pressures. How many people tie one on Friday after a particular hard week at work.

The need to unwind and relax in our society is paramount to our mental health.
 

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Politicians overstating benefits of scrapping internal trade barriers: think tank

It concludes that elected officials have cited “very few practical examples of barriers” to support legislative moves that could eliminate regulatory tools for “supporting local economic development and ensuring high standards for goods, services and labour certification.”

It's all meant to grease the wheels for businesses moving goods and services between provinces.

Some of these changes include efforts to make it easier to sell beer, wine and spirits across provincial borders by, for example, enabling direct-to-consumer alcohol sales.

https://www.biv.com/news/politician...g-internal-trade-barriers-think-tank-10908427

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One of two recently completed apartment towers at the New Westminster riverfront. While think tanks and politicians mull only about beer sales, apartment buildings go begging for construction components: tools to move and assemble rebar, concrete, elevators, glass frames and glass, large appliance washers, dryers, dishwashers, plumbing, intercoms from beyond Canadian borders. Nothing in the missive about cross boundary trucking improvement any nascent Canadian manufacturer could depend upon to visit trade in adjoining province.
 

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Google’s AI is delivering a blow to the newsrooms it's built on

...many major news outlets are experiencing serious declines in online traffic in recent months as AI Overview takes hold, because the summary somehow satisfies readers sufficiently so as not to click through to the journalism website sources.

...federal Online News Act compelled Google—and tried to compel Meta—to compensate publishers for a share of what they earned when users of their platforms linked to news websites. Google reached a deal to spend $100 million a year in Canada doing so. Meta walked away from any negotiation, and scrubbed the links to news sites rather than participate.

...if credible source material for AI can’t be sustained financially, the quality of the AI summaries will diminish...

https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...a-blow-to-the-newsrooms-its-built-on-10928176

Wary buyers who see such things coming likely do much better financially than those who don’t.
 
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A look at Britain and plans for increasing military assets.
So what can we do here in Canada?
Well for one thing, it will be drones, drones, drones for any type of future combat. Still would have to upkeep and expand our current numbers to about 140,000 members.
Everyone should do 2 years military service training. Basic, first aid up to triage and large mass casualty training. Canada currently has a DART (medical team), just increase this number to 4 DART teams. Historically in the last 40 years Canada has deployed for humanitarian Aid (outside Afghanistan and Europe).

Currently Canada is short of doctors and nurses. For an aging population these skills will be needed for the next 20-30 years. The CAF could set up a 2 year program to bring untrained persons in. Cover pre-requisites for medical school for nurses and doctors. Employ in an DART team. After 2 year the CAF could choose to keep them on and send them to medical school. Or the person can get out after 2 years and go to medical school and or join the CAF reserve as they put themselves through school.

So how does the CAF need to change to meet future demands for Canadians?
 

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Ottawa is asking Canadians what they want to see in the fall budget
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OTTAWA — Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne is looking for feedback from Canadians on national security and defence spending and fortifying the Canadian economy amid an ongoing trade war as he prepares to deliver a federal budget in the fall.

https://www.biv.com/news/economy-la...-they-want-to-see-in-the-fall-budget-10940629

Before you run off with your wish list to the minister. You've got to have the manufacturing infrastructure at home or else everything comes imported. Subsequent loss of Canadian jobs and engineering careers. More debt for every Canadian. Diminished crew morale. Big item recently ship building shipyards. Canada looking to buy 12 Air- Independent Propulsion submarines. The technology well established in Sweden and Germany. Would be nice to get contracts to build in Canada shipyards. Irving, Davie and Seaspan shipyards all booked into foreseeable future. 2040s. Even if BC government got Seaspan to create a new yard for BC Ferries construction at home would help the whole Canadian economy. Before you buy anything think about where in Canada you can manufacture.
 
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Ottawa is asking Canadians what they want to see in the fall budget
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OTTAWA — Finance Minister François-Philippe Champagne is looking for feedback from Canadians on national security and defence spending and fortifying the Canadian economy amid an ongoing trade war as he prepares to deliver a federal budget in the fall.

https://www.biv.com/news/economy-la...-they-want-to-see-in-the-fall-budget-10940629

Before you run off with your wish list to the minister. You've got to have the manufacturing infrastructure at home or else everything comes imported. Subsequent loss of Canadian jobs and engineering careers. More debt for every Canadian. Diminished crew morale. Big item recently ship building shipyards. Canada looking to buy 12 Air- Independent Propulsion submarines. The technology well established in Sweden and Germany. Would be nice to get contracts to build in Canada shipyards. Irving, Davie and Seaspan shipyards all booked into foreseeable future. 2040s. Even if BC government got Seaspan to create a new yard for BC Ferries construction at home would help the whole Canadian economy. Before you buy anything think about where in Canada you can manufacture.
I like your thinking on manufacturing, but it all comes to naught in Canada.

Cranberry will still continue the Turd's decline in economy by adhering to the carbon tax and environmental crap, which makes more manufacturing at none. Still keep the 2035 car engine ban (only electric after this date), but wait we don't have the capacity to charge all those electric vehicles. Those stupid politicians have to wake up and see we only have less than 2% of Carbon emissions for the world.

Not when the charging rate is 12-18 cent a KWH. 90% of cars are Internal Combustion engines (ICE).

I think a electric car for big cities could be the thing, with ICE for city to city travel with maybe a 60% ICE and 40% electric by 2060. Why because there is no bus to bus, and public transport sucks big time in Canada, because there is no infrastructure for future development. Also no manufacturing facilities too....

Canada needs cheap priced steel, gas and diesel, energy in the form of nuclear energy. The past 60 years Canada has a federal tax on gas, that was meant to improve roads, but instead goes into general revenue. Whatever electric energy we get will go towards manufacturing, increased electric vehicle use and transportation (like electric trains or high speed elevated trains).

So Canada will still need ICE.

I think to turn around the economy, we will have to do a WW2 contribution to start up some manufacturing plants. Steel, Iron, metals (titanium, copper, aluminum, other metals too). So we have to develop more mines and mine what metals we have. Rare Earth metals for high tech stuff too. Need to mine Uranium and Thorium for nuclear energy.

Concentrate on heavy industry.
 

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I hope a million gallons of oil doesn’t somehow end up in our beautiful forests
As long as it is designed right, with back up and continuous maintenance; it should never leak. You could have a pipe inside a pipe. You would need shut off valve at certain intervals.
The big thing is having enviromental laws, like you can't build here because of the moss is very dumb.
We have much better environmental controls then they did to build the Cdn railway across the country.
 

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Fire resistant homes.
I would add a tank of water for roof top (2000-4000gal) demister or sprinkler. (Load King is expanding its construction equipment portfolio and now manufacturing water trucks. Built with A36 steel in a modified eclipse shape, the LK 2,000-gallon water truck’s tank shell measures 98″ long x 98″ wide x 64.75″ tall. Both Load King water trucks are available on a variety of chassis brands and models). About the size of a small tanker truck for 2000 gal.
Currently we use a tank of water that is for inside sprinkler (need to keep it at above certain temp and you need electricity for the pump), in areas where there is no fire hydrants.
Cement board for siding or metal siding. Metal roof. For attics will need a double/triple screen in soffits. Metal shutters for windows, this would be good for high winds situations too.
The one thing that got me thinking was the response of some cities to have temperary buildings while they discussed how to make up the damage from (earthquake or fire).
Seem to me that Canada should have a set number of mobile shipping homes, ready to use in case of a major city disaster. Design them to be stacked 5 high with fittings (for water, sewage, electricity). Build 100, 000 of these units, keep in central location or 2-3 locations in Canada. These containers can be used to help with world wide events of disaster too; put on a container ship and offload onto a dock. 20 ft for 2. 40 ft for family of 4-6 using bunk beds.
 

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Seriously?
There are problems in Canada. Social and Economic problems. Seems people want to bypass that and just call each other names like in elementary school.
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You mean like calling someone "Genius"?

Genius as Insult
The term "genius" is often used sarcastically, making it more frequently an insult than a compliment. This usage can be seen in various online discussions where people express that calling someone a genius can be a backhanded way of implying they are not as intelligent as they seem. For instance, phrases like "Hey genius, you're doing it wrong" are common examples of this sarcastic usage. Additionally, the word "genius" can be used to mock someone's perceived failure, suggesting that their intelligence is not as impressive as it might seem. In some cases, people may use the term "genius" to belittle others, especially in situations where they feel insecure about their own abilities. It's also worth noting that the context in which the term is used plays a significant role in determining whether it is intended as a compliment or an insult.
 

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You mean like calling someone "Genius"?

Genius as Insult
The term "genius" is often used sarcastically, making it more frequently an insult than a compliment. This usage can be seen in various online discussions where people express that calling someone a genius can be a backhanded way of implying they are not as intelligent as they seem. For instance, phrases like "Hey genius, you're doing it wrong" are common examples of this sarcastic usage. Additionally, the word "genius" can be used to mock someone's perceived failure, suggesting that their intelligence is not as impressive as it might seem. In some cases, people may use the term "genius" to belittle others, especially in situations where they feel insecure about their own abilities. It's also worth noting that the context in which the term is used plays a significant role in determining whether it is intended as a compliment or an insult.
Sorry to say like I learned in religious school, we are all sinners and all guilty of falling short. to err is human.
PS Sometimes I can't help myself
 
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