2025 Canadian Political Thread

[licks2nite]

There’s great irony in government launching a cost-saving review by appointing a new person with an almost $400,000 salary to oversee it. But if Health Minister Josie Osborne saw that incongruity Monday, she didn’t let on — instead, charging forward aggressively to defend hiring Dr. Penny Ballem at a pricey compensation package to begin nickel-and-diming a system that, over the last two decades, Ballem helped create.

https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...-health-care-starts-with-400k-salary-10458548

Bellum formerly Vancouver City Manager 2008 to 2015 at $365K. For contrast the VPD Chief gets $464K. An interim position for nearly $400K. I'd think Bellum deserves it as a retirement good-bye gift if there's real savings and improvement to be found in health care.


Dr. Penny Ballem (left) as physician and clinical professor at the University of British Columbia Medical School in the department of hematology and bone marrow transplant. UBC faculty of medicine $150K to $195K or $106.03 per hour teaching.

Wonder how Dr. Ballem spent the last 2 decades creating the health department as Vancouver City Manager from '08 to '15.

 

[LM987]

I haven't read this whole thread, but I am seeing a lot of posts ( not here) about the Liberal Gun Grab ( Conservatives).
I've shot more rounds in my youth that I dare to count and still like firing them, BUT...
I've read the proposals and I don't have an issue.
To me, the rules are like a drivers license. ( or liquor licenses)

They seem to want stricter rules on certain banned weapons.
Restrictions on hand guns. No hunter needs a hand gun. Well yes I can see the argument of a handgun in close range if one is attacked by a wild animal, but...

If you have mental health issues, that affects driving and your ability to safely handle a gun, no issues.

Certain criminal convictions. No issues on my end on this one.

Background checks. Why be concerned unless one is worried about their convictions.

So not really sure why "hunters' are so angry about these issues.

I do not hunt anymore, but if I did it would be nice to know fellow hunters are of sound mind, have their licenses etc etc.

No where did I see they will take their legal guns away.

Renew your license every 5 years. So, They need to apply for hunting tags every year. I even need a license to fish already.

If you own a handgun, you can retain it.

Rant over.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

I haven't read this whole thread, but I am seeing a lot of posts ( not here) about the Liberal Gun Grab ( Conservatives).
I've shot more rounds in my youth that I dare to count and still like firing them, BUT...
I've read the proposals and I don't have an issue.
To me, the rules are like a drivers license. ( or liquor licenses)

They seem to want stricter rules on certain banned weapons.
Restrictions on hand guns. No hunter needs a hand gun. Well yes I can see the argument of a handgun in close range if one is attacked by a wild animal, but...

If you have mental health issues, that affects driving and your ability to safely handle a gun, no issues.

Certain criminal convictions. No issues on my end on this one.

Background checks. Why be concerned unless one is worried about their convictions.

So not really sure why "hunters' are so angry about these issues.

I do not hunt anymore, but if I did it would be nice to know fellow hunters are of sound mind, have their licenses etc etc.

No where did I see they will take their legal guns away.

Renew your license every 5 years. So, They need to apply for hunting tags every year. I even need a license to fish already.

If you own a handgun, you can retain it.

Rant over.

They have outlawed the majority of guns that belong to legal gun owners that have done everything by the book. These guns have never been the problem it’s the gangsters and their illegal weapons that are shooting up the neighborhoods that are the problem. This will cost billions to enforce, money which would be better spent building jails and locking up the real criminals.

 

[Cloud 500]

Brookfield Asset Management under Carney bailed out 26 year old Jared Kushner out of a tight real estate deal to the tune of 1.4 billion when nobody else would. Brookfield share holder Qatar a major benefactor in Trump’s son-in-law's work in the Middle East.

https://bn.brookfield.com/press-rel...arney-vice-chair-and-head-esg-and-impact-fund

^^^^^ Carney became Chairman of Brookfield as of 2020?? Does not look like he was involved in that decision.

 

[Cloud 500]

I will absolutely never vote conservative and anybody that does, doesn’t love Canada for the things that make Canada great. Like social programs, universal health care etc etc etc.

Better rethink that. Trudeau caused the housing crisis due to his mass immigration policy. Carney is part of the Century Initiative. Living in Vancouver, I thought some of you would be more sensitive to this then us folks out East, I guess not. Social programs are a scam, this is a form of redistribution of wealth where someone else pays for someone else. Universal healthcare is a disaster, we pay taxes but are not really getting the service.

 

[Cloud 500]

Polls keep increasing probability of a Liberal majority. The CBC Poll Tracker I posted last week currently has 85% probability of a Liberal majority versus 1% for the Conservatives. Of course we are still almost a month away from the election so there can still be a turn around for the Conservatives. And no, the stats above is NOT an April 1st joke LoL

JD

People are really naive to be fooled by Carney's credentials. Now all over the country the price of gas dropped by 20 cents. Not because of Carney but because of Poilievre. Carney only dropped the consumer carbon tax because he wanted to get elected. Carney's cabinet has the same people that were in Trudeau's cabinet who all supported Trudeau's destructive policies. The party is so corrupt. They favor the rich and their policies help the rich get more richer.

 

[Harmony-bc]

People are really naive to be fooled by Carney's credentials. Now all over the country the price of gas dropped by 20 cents. Not because of Carney but because of Poilievre. Carney only dropped the consumer carbon tax because he wanted to get elected. Carney's cabinet has the same people that were in Trudeau's cabinet who all supported Trudeau's destructive policies. The party is so corrupt. They favor the rich and their policies help the rich get more richer.

I had a medical scare when I was 25 and I don’t have medical debt. My grandfather had throat cancer and didn’t bankrupt the family. Got hit by a car at 19. No problem. 3 day hospital stay, no debt. Every problem I’ve ever had, I’ve seen a doctor for without copay nonsense. I just saw a specialist a few months ago, no real wait time and I didn’t pay out of pocket.

As for social programs, any society that doesn’t help it’s downtrodden get a leg up or support those that can’t work, isn’t a healthy society. Whether you think it’s a scam or not, I guess you’re entitled to your opinion but it’s totally bullshit.

Who cares why somebody wants to get elected? All that matters is the platform they are putting out. We as voters, read it and make a choice from there. Then we as voters hold them to what they got elected to do.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Better rethink that. Trudeau caused the housing crisis due to his mass immigration policy. Carney is part of the Century Initiative. Living in Vancouver, I thought some of you would be more sensitive to this then us folks out East, I guess not. Social programs are a scam, this is a form of redistribution of wealth where someone else pays for someone else. Universal healthcare is a disaster, we pay taxes but are not really getting the service.

I absolutely 💯 agree with you that Trudeau is partly responsible for our housing crisis tho. And carney has some good plans to get us out.

Universal health care right this moment isn’t working as effectively as it could. We have too many people too quickly. The solution is not cutting back on universal health care. That’s like cutting off your nose to spite your face

 

[Harmony-bc]

All politicians are corrupt. Every single one of them is in it for personal gain. But this is the system we have. So we vote, we hope for the best, and we hold people accountable by protests, sit-ins, marches, letters, town halls, social media, etc etc etc. The trick is to not be complacent and to actually care enough to be a bit passionate about where we live

 

[Bridge]

All politicians are corrupt. Every single one of them is in it for personal gain. But this is the system we have. So we vote, we hope for the best, and we hold people accountable by protests, sit-ins, marches, letters, town halls, social media, etc etc etc. The trick is to not be complacent and to actually care enough to be a bit passionate about where we live

Having worked on a few campaigns I have to disagree. The majority of aspiring politicians do want to benefit and serve people. It may be that when they become part of a government then they find that governing is very complex and they have to make compromises. However, even then I would say that only a few are corrupted by power.
I do agree though that we must never be complacent and we must hold the people we voted for accountable.

 

[westwoody]

One of my father’s best friends was a longtime MP. He was a decent guy and not in it for personal gain. He was working 24/7 year round. The workload and personal animosity he dealt with was incredibly hard on his family. Kids in our school picked on his kids mercilessly.
If anyone of the assholes here who think it’s an easy way to make big bucks they should try it.

 

[overdone]

One of my father’s best friends was a longtime MP. He was a decent guy and not in it for personal gain. He was working 24/7 year round. The workload and personal animosity he dealt with was incredibly hard on his family. Kids in our school picked on his kids mercilessly.
If anyone of the assholes here who think it’s an easy way to make big bucks they should try it.

hahaha

yeah, Justin the Turd, he was working so hard

in between ripping off charities, schools and others giving speeches while being an MP, the few days he was in the house while it was sitting

during his time as a lowly MP

Rob the clown from Calgary, working really really hard, so hard he was always falling asleep in the house

must have been too busy being a landlord, with all the properties he was able to buy, on those houses that he clearly didn't personally gain from

cause his salary was sooo low

*go look at the news reports on how many MP's have multiple homes, yeah, nothing but long hours and low pay

the 3 month out of the year on average the house is in


fucking spare me

their biggest part of the job is trying to get re-elected

most aren't on committees

in cabinet

or in their constituency offices

most don't have the skills for the job, understand what they are actually supposed to do

they're just like the dipshits at the local level

who's biggest issue is listening to people about the neighbour's cat who shit in their garden

instead of actually doing their job

which is like a board of directors

instructing the real employees of the gov't on how to operate

it's' a part time job

except maybe cabinet and PM


ffs


if what you believe was even remotely true

then how come they never seem to accomplish anything?

decade after decade?

same issue time after time?

 

[westwoody]

 

[thevalleydude]

Interesting how gas prices rose from the low 1.70s to the mid-high 1.80s just before the carbon tax was to come off.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Having worked on a few campaigns I have to disagree. The majority of aspiring politicians do want to benefit and serve people. It may be that when they become part of a government then they find that governing is very complex and they have to make compromises. However, even then I would say that only a few are corrupted by power.
I do agree though that we must never be complacent and we must hold the people we voted for accountable.

I think it’s important to go into it with the attitude all politicians are corrupt because then it stops other people from trying to convince you your politician is more corrupt than their politician. It’s a pointless argument. Thats not the important issue. The important issue is the platforms they’re campaigning on. Never trust anybody and you’ll never be disappointed hahaha.

I’ve also volunteered with ndp and liked everybody I met there. A woman I used to party with a bit became a politician for the Green Party and if I was in her riding I would vote for her every time. She’s a great person. Even if the environment isn’t as important to me as affordable housing and old people and young families having enough food to eat.

 

[Bridge]

hahaha

yeah, Justin the Turd, he was working so hard

in between ripping off charities, schools and others giving speeches while being an MP, the few days he was in the house while it was sitting

during his time as a lowly MP

Rob the clown from Calgary, working really really hard, so hard he was always falling asleep in the house

must have been too busy being a landlord, with all the properties he was able to buy, on those houses that he clearly didn't personally gain from

cause his salary was sooo low

*go look at the news reports on how many MP's have multiple homes, yeah, nothing but long hours and low pay

the 3 month out of the year on average the house is in


fucking spare me

their biggest part of the job is trying to get re-elected

most aren't on committees

in cabinet

or in their constituency offices

most don't have the skills for the job, understand what they are actually supposed to do

they're just like the dipshits at the local level

who's biggest issue is listening to people about the neighbour's cat who shit in their garden

instead of actually doing their job

which is like a board of directors

instructing the real employees of the gov't on how to operate

it's' a part time job

except maybe cabinet and PM


ffs


if what you believe was even remotely true

then how come they never seem to accomplish anything?

decade after decade?

same issue time after time?

OD if it is such an easy job then why aren’t you doing it?

 

[licks2nite]

Mark Carney’s Values: What his 2021 book reveals about the leader he might be

Carney is a strong believer in markets but acknowledges they need to be regulated for there to be decent outcomes. In a contrast to the Milton Friedman-inspired free market views of his Conservative adversary, Pierre Poilievre, Carney comments, “unchecked market fundamentalism devours the social capital essential for the long-term dynamism of capitalism itself.“

https://www.policyalternatives.ca/n...21-book-reveals-about-the-leader-he-might-be/

From Google:
•"Market fundamentalism" also known as free-market fundamentalism, is a term used to describe a strong belief in the ability of unregulated, laissez-faire, or free-market policies to solve most economic and social problems.
•"social capital" refers to the networks of relationships and connections that individuals and groups have, which can be leveraged to achieve shared goals and advance collective interests.
•"dynamism" refers to inherent tendency towards innovation, growth, and change, driven by competition and the pursuit of profit.

 

[overdone]

OD if it is such an easy job then why aren’t you doing it?

cause I don't like sucking up to other people, I don't tell people what they want to hear

I don't lie to people

people who lie to people

like Carney/Turd/virtually every politician

don't value you, think they are smarter than you, that you are too fucking stupid to know better

cause that's the job

I have no interest in that

 

[overdone]

Mark Carney’s Values: What his 2021 book reveals about the leader he might be

Carney is a strong believer in markets but acknowledges they need to be regulated for there to be decent outcomes. In a contrast to the Milton Friedman-inspired free market views of his Conservative adversary, Pierre Poilievre, Carney comments, “unchecked market fundamentalism devours the social capital essential for the long-term dynamism of capitalism itself.“

https://www.policyalternatives.ca/n...21-book-reveals-about-the-leader-he-might-be/

From Google:
•"Market fundamentalism" also known as free-market fundamentalism, is a term used to describe a strong belief in the ability of unregulated, laissez-faire, or free-market policies to solve most economic and social problems.
•"social capital" refers to the networks of relationships and connections that individuals and groups have, which can be leveraged to achieve shared goals and advance collective interests.
•"dynamism" refers to inherent tendency towards innovation, growth, and change, driven by competition and the pursuit of profit.

yeah, that's a good CBC/Star version of reality

Carney is all about the gov't being your mom

go watch his recent, few times he's actually said anything of note

he wants, just like the Turd did for 9 years

to control who works, who gets welfare, how money is redistributed to who he wants to bribe

he's not interested in markets, his green views are clear on that

and the Cons aren't total nothing but market forces, "unchecked" as you quote the POS Liberal lie

so repeating the talking points of the Turd/Carney Liberals is nice

but far from reality

bottomline is new boss same as the old boss

China, won't get rid of China MP, housing, gov't is going to build it, oil biggest export, non, non

could go on, but why, you're already in the vat full of koolaid

 

[80watts]

They have outlawed the majority of guns that belong to legal gun owners that have done everything by the book. These guns have never been the problem it’s the gangsters and their illegal weapons that are shooting up the neighborhoods that are the problem. This will cost billions to enforce, money which would be better spent building jails and locking up the real criminals.
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There should be a need to repeal this law. Our current trade spat with the US is one of them why they should maintain these weapons.
As for the criminal, if using guns of any type, should be given extra time in their sentences, no off time for anything. Put them to work breaking rocks on chain gangs. Hard labour for their sentence.

As for the liberal government that wants to disarm Canadians that follow the law, you should be asking why?

From my perspective the Liberals under Turd senior, started to downsize the Canadian military and spend money on social things, making Canadians lazier and lazier since the early 70s. Its to a point that now their is a voting block of people on welfare that have been on welfare for 3 or more generations of their families.

The one thing you can do is tax the rich. Also you can limit their tax benefits, increase personal tax rates and tax all generational funds.

The problem is that I find no need for a gun of any type. Not long ago I attended a gun course conducted by 2 police officers. They asked a question why people wanted a gun. Most said that they wanted a gun for protection.

I see a need for rifles for hunting, and for handguns in the wilderness for protection against wild animals. I do believe that guides given certain courses should be allowed to have hand guns while working in the wilderness. Anybody growing up on a farm should be allowed a .22 to shoot prairie dogs etc.

If you live in a city you don't need guns.

Common dog fuck people!!!!