2025 Canadian Political Thread

[80watts]

If you deal drugs, death penalty... Send the message loud and clear.

I can barely watch the fucked up addicts on Victoria streets and from what I hear, Vancouver is in the middle of a pandemic of drug users and pushers. Fucking hang the bastards. Clean up the streets.

Yeah it would be like Nazi 1930s.... Sorry but what else are you gonna do. Wait till the drug users take over your street, house and life?
I'm sorry but people have to take a hard line on this. You can't be wishy washy on this subject. It is clearly black and white and whoever tries to tell you its has gray areas, is supporting the drug dealers. I care about human rights, but sometime the evil take advantage of everybody else in society.

If you deal drugs near a school, you get whipped at a flogging post for a week, and then you get hanged. If you money launder the drug money, same punishment.

People really need to take their head out of their preverbal asses!!!

The problem is the money is too good for everyone involved and you don't pay taxes on the money, its tax free.... Somehow the system is rigged against the good.

 

[80watts]

There has been and will continue to be plenty of negative speech about our big brother to the south. I took a few minutes this morning to try and view the whole thing from their side.

I would love to see every country in the world protect their way of life , provide good food , clean water , freedom from tyranny and war…. And the US is no exception. Trump was on the right track when he proposed the Wall on their southern border but I believe he was thinking small when there is so much more opportunity to expand that idea.

The Wall should encompass the lower 48 on all four sides even the oceans to guard against hurricane surge. It should be reinforced concrete , 150 ft tall and should leave the 3 coasts open for recreation and fishing ( the wall would be offshore )

To guard against world propaganda , liberal points of view and diversity speech , a communications jammer and satellite signal blocker ( thank you Elon ) would prevent any incoming ( and outgoing ) messaging .

The Wall would block any immigration and emigration and provide the leaders to develop the population the way they see fit .

The fact that the US has everything they need means all they need to do is build a perfect internal mechanism from food to energy and all things required to live peacefully in their bubble without the need to trade or communicate with the rest of the world .

Their space force could defend against any incoming threats , but really i don’t think there will be any threats against them as long as their bubble is working … sort of like how Christmas is better since that opinionated racist uncle moved to Texas .

Of course it helps that already most Americans live in a bubble with their America first way of thinking.. ( by the way USA , the whole world went thru COVID and is still recovering physically mentally and financially . Sorry about your egg situation but honestly we had nothing to do with it.

Yes , I would like to see the Wall built so we could all watch the news to see what those goofy Pandas did today , sports news and weather like the old days .

Sounds like the United States of Russia, with a dictator running it all. No way America has all the resources it needs, so why import oil and luxury cars.

 

[80watts]

The Tariffs are coming! The Tariffs are coming!

Is Canada ready?

Unlikely…. Perhaps we don’t even understand our opponet’s viewpoint or resolve on this issue.

There is of course a multitude of shock, concern, and condemnation in the media and all across social platforms about the impending tariifs. In addition to our outrage, trips to Washington, preparation for counter-tariffs, and finally getting on with sprucing up border security, Canada is gradually starting to brace for impact. Initially many thought that tariffs were just a negotiating tactic, but now border security appears to mostly be a further justification for invoking national security measures, and a convenient by-product of tariff policies resulting in a gravy win for the US.

Many have argued that Trump doesn’t know what he is doing, and Eby, Trudeau, etc. stick to the narrative that tariffs will just end up harming the US. Regrettably, a lot of folks and politicians have underestimated the orange-man at their peril. There is strong evidence to the contrary—that tariffs can and do improve the balance of trade, overall economic strength, and revitalize industries diminished by low international commodity pricing.

It may come as a surprise to some that there has been a lot of thought, study, and testing of tariff impacts by the US, and the Trump administration in particular. Seriously folks, if Canadian politicians think this is just the deranged actions of a mad-man, they are likely doomed for a wakeup call and are naively spiralling Canada into further decline.

In particular, I would encourage those who think tariffs are ineffective, temporary negotiating tools, and only raise the price of goods for American consumers (or bring on recessions or hurt capital markets) to have a look at Stephen Miran’s research, and the lessons learned by the Whitehouse (both Republican and Democrats) resulting from the last steel and aluminum tariffs imposed. By the way, it sounds like the tariffs have been there for a long time, we just get exemptions.

Look, we Canadians want free trade, and we don’t like this protectionist direction at all. But I also hate to see us rattling our puny little sabres at irrelevant targets, making erroneous assumptions about how tariffs impact economies, and not understanding how this situation is likely to play out. Price inelasticity, currency devaluation effects, domestic industry and job growth outcomes all need much more attention imho. I’d like to see more in the media about understanding our opponent’s objectives and research, without all the biased rhetoric. We don’t have to agree with the coming tariffs, but simply concluding they are irrational and trying to convince a bully that he is stupid will cost us dearly. We need to understand our opponents a lot better, otherwise we are the stupid ones. History suggests that Trump’s tariffs will indeed revitalize the US steel and aluminum industries, pushing capacity utilization up 20-30%, and re-start investment in an otherwise diminishing sector perceived vital to US manufacturing and national security.

Yes, the tariffs are coming. Plan A isn’t going to save us. Canada ought to be thinking ahead and working on Plan B now. I’m not seeing it. EG: what is Canada’s strategy to invest in US-based production capacity? Huh? Will we leave it to the Koreans, Chineese, and Europeans to figure this out? Newsflash—they already have (at least the Koreans). Get ready for impact. The tariffs are coming!

A few fun Links…

https://thelogic.co/news/donald-trump-adviser-global-trading-system-change/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-she...-donald-j-trump-restores-section-232-tariffs/

https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/do...o_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdf

If tariffs are allowed then patents can be cancelled or ignored. This would improve production in Canada. Canada at a minimum should put a raw export tax on raw materials. (think income for the Fed government). Anything manufactured in Canada could be exported for free trade except mineral wealth which a portion of should be retained for future generations. Yeah were at the bottom and trying to survive, but if you don't put that factor in now, Canada will be a wasteland.
Just throwing things out there.

 

[rlock]

One thing that might have to be done is the elimination of "patents". Especially for military equipment. Which will make it alot cheaper.

Oh, I don't think they will ever be able to do that, not legally anyways. Those technologies are the most legally protected of all, not just copyright laws, but espionage laws.
However, one nice thing about war is that once someone is your enemy it basically gives you the green light to steal any technology they have got so you can defeat them.
(It's why most of China's fighters look mysteriously like copies of things like the F35.)

So if the USA has decided to be Canada's enemy, let's plunder all their tech like Robin Hood.

 

[rlock]

Military stuff
Please note any major items purchase (planes and ships and tanks) have to go through Parliment (cause its not in DND budget- personnal and maintenance and operational cost).
One thing this report dose not hit on is the repair of items/equipment. To save money on holding parts years ago the wiser and alknowning bean counters decided not to house too many items for the equipment they had, in order to close down a few bases/hangers/supply houses to save on heating cost in the winters.

I like Perun's videos, but cripes who has 2 hours or something to look at one video? I'll look later on.

But the point you made is basically why Canada was fucked (by Stephen Harper's decision) during COVID. We actually used to have warehouses with stockpiles of PPE, in case of things like.... well, exactly what happened. But the smegheads decided to save some pennies by getting rid of the inventory, and even worse selling the government land it was located on.
Seriously that last part is the worst thing, because they later need land and they have to wade into the private real estate market and compete against developers which makes the price absurd.

 

[rlock]

and if you watch our newly annointed natural leader of the Liberal Party, aka the natural only choice for Canadian PM

Justin Carney

he said the other day to a group of cult members

that Fentanyl isn't an issue in Canada

despite the roughly 50,000 dead in the last 10 years of Liberal rule from overdose

Fentanyl is an issue in Canada. Fentanyl smuggling into the US from Canada is not an issue.
As was alwready stated, it is the ports where the precursors comes in, and much like the Canadian ports, the US ports also only search something like 0.5% of their inbound cargo containers.
Once again the Trump dictatorship is trying to blame others for what is basically their own lack of finding for their own border & customs forces.
But the real issue is what is behind the fentanyl accusation and behind the tariffs agenda - it is their desire for annexation. They want to just steal land from others like in the bad old days.

 

[rlock]

Why isn't the issue of the number of guns coming north from the states being put up by our duly elected officials a main talking point?

Indeed, it should be. We should charge the US bastards reparations for every criminal gun found in Canada, each case multiplied by 10 if used in a crime and multiplied by 100 if someone is actually shot.
They are purposely pushing excess weapons onto the black market under the guise of their 2nd Amendment bullshit, and the spillover empowers crooks in Canada and is the real reason why the cartels are so powerful in Mexico, able to out-gun the police.

 

[rlock]

Years ago I worked on a large building for the Canadian forces in ChilliWack, they modernized the entire thing spending 40 mil the very next year the entire base was shut down and relocated to Edmonton. These people don’t think about consequences, there should be a fully staffed base here, that atmospheric river cut us off from the rest of the country 👎🏻

Yeah that was a real oputrage. There are not Army reg forces in BC at all anymore. The most important province in western Canada to defend (look what foes we are facing), and it is barely defended at all (and what we do have answers to commanders in Alberta. While it can be a defensive boon to defend a province this mountainous if you have people here, if you do not you are utterly fucked because it is so easily cut off from reinforcements. The floods of 2021 that completely cut off the lower mainland from the rest of the country demonstrated that effect quite clearly - we lost every land link whether road or rail (and had to reroute traffic through the US, an option no longer possible if the US is Canada's enemy now). That was just an atmospheric river but an enemy attacker could easily replicate that result with bombing. BC should be bristling with soldiers, not nearly empty. The RCAF forces likewise are minimal - Comox basically, mostly home to maritime surveillance and search & rescue. If fighters are ever present, they are visiting from Cold Lake and answer once again to commanders in Alberta.

 

[rlock]

The Tariffs are coming! The Tariffs are coming!

Is Canada ready?

Unlikely…. Perhaps we don’t even understand our opponet’s viewpoint or resolve on this issue.

There is of course a multitude of shock, concern, and condemnation in the media and all across social platforms about the impending tariifs. In addition to our outrage, trips to Washington, preparation for counter-tariffs, and finally getting on with sprucing up border security, Canada is gradually starting to brace for impact. Initially many thought that tariffs were just a negotiating tactic, but now border security appears to mostly be a further justification for invoking national security measures, and a convenient by-product of tariff policies resulting in a gravy win for the US.

Many have argued that Trump doesn’t know what he is doing, and Eby, Trudeau, etc. stick to the narrative that tariffs will just end up harming the US. Regrettably, a lot of folks and politicians have underestimated the orange-man at their peril. There is strong evidence to the contrary—that tariffs can and do improve the balance of trade, overall economic strength, and revitalize industries diminished by low international commodity pricing.

It may come as a surprise to some that there has been a lot of thought, study, and testing of tariff impacts by the US, and the Trump administration in particular. Seriously folks, if Canadian politicians think this is just the deranged actions of a mad-man, they are likely doomed for a wakeup call and are naively spiralling Canada into further decline.

In particular, I would encourage those who think tariffs are ineffective, temporary negotiating tools, and only raise the price of goods for American consumers (or bring on recessions or hurt capital markets) to have a look at Stephen Miran’s research, and the lessons learned by the Whitehouse (both Republican and Democrats) resulting from the last steel and aluminum tariffs imposed. By the way, it sounds like the tariffs have been there for a long time, we just get exemptions.

Look, we Canadians want free trade, and we don’t like this protectionist direction at all. But I also hate to see us rattling our puny little sabres at irrelevant targets, making erroneous assumptions about how tariffs impact economies, and not understanding how this situation is likely to play out. Price inelasticity, currency devaluation effects, domestic industry and job growth outcomes all need much more attention imho. I’d like to see more in the media about understanding our opponent’s objectives and research, without all the biased rhetoric. We don’t have to agree with the coming tariffs, but simply concluding they are irrational and trying to convince a bully that he is stupid will cost us dearly. We need to understand our opponents a lot better, otherwise we are the stupid ones. History suggests that Trump’s tariffs will indeed revitalize the US steel and aluminum industries, pushing capacity utilization up 20-30%, and re-start investment in an otherwise diminishing sector perceived vital to US manufacturing and national security.

Yes, the tariffs are coming. Plan A isn’t going to save us. Canada ought to be thinking ahead and working on Plan B now. I’m not seeing it. EG: what is Canada’s strategy to invest in US-based production capacity? Huh? Will we leave it to the Koreans, Chineese, and Europeans to figure this out? Newsflash—they already have (at least the Koreans). Get ready for impact. The tariffs are coming!

I do not think much of the premiers' "reasonable" (naive) approach to stress to US lawmakers that tariffs will hurt US consumers just as much. Well it will hurt US consumers too, but who says their government even gives a fuck? They are relying on US politicians to exert domestic pressure that will make Trump's efforts lose steam before we get into tit for tat retaliation. Well, that will not work. Only retaliation/punishment works, the infliction of escalating pain that causes them great suffering and strife at home, with the clear resolve that we can endure more hardship in our own defense than they can in their attacks.

We need to get busy on making new trade and military alliances and otherwise maximizing our own self-sufficiency - thus minimizing any effects they can have on Canada. Get the whole world on side in an alliance against them. They fuck around and now they can find out.

Canada together with Europe and Mexico and others, have the power to absolutely isolate and strangle the USA and its crooked regime. It is time to unleash that combined power. It's no different than dealing with Russia or North Korea. Hot them with every possible kind of sanctions, embargo them of our energy, of rare minerals, of the things they need to even grow their crops. Reduce our trade with them to just bare reciprocity, almost barter where we only give to them if we get what we need in exchange. Drastically reduce their global market share, and cause a crisis for them that is bigger than the oil shocks they got hit with in the 1970s. Undermine the US dollar as a global standard in trade.

At the same time, start cutting them out of Canada's economy with outright bans on their people being CEOs here, bans on them owning companies in any strategic economic / resource / news media sectors in Canada. If their government is going to be hostile, then any Americans in the other NATO countries can be treated like a security risk, and that applies as well to any arrangements for data services in Canadian governents or key industries that are handled by US companies like Google. Any info of ours they touch is a security risk; we must treat them with the same aversion as we do to China. The same goes for any of their political & media influence, have it banned as hostile espionage or propaganda. Force them to conduct all relations with us through their ambassadors & consuls, no more direct lobbying of government or business. Then all the remaining real democracies can end our military alliances with them, close their military bases on the soil of European powers, and before that choose weapons systems for our military that do not come from them. (Some systems already in the works we cannot do anything about, but after that, no more.)

All that forces a brutal choice inside the USA, rather than the easy path to legitimizing their president acting like the next Hitler or Stalin. When they are facing economic and military ruin, when their people are impoverished and seething, when it is clear that Trump has turned the whole free world against the USA, then hopefully he gets taken out by his own military or spy services who will be sick of watching their strategic position crumble to dust. And if they can't or won't do it, then these were all good moves anyway in the run up to a a major global conflict, a WW3 scenario that hopefully sees this Axis smashed and broken up like the last one was.

If the allies had stopped Hitler after his Rhineland moves in 1936, WW2 would never have happened - his own generals were at that time willing to overthrow him. But the other powers sat on their hands , so the menace grew into a power which would never stop attacking them. Well, Canada and the other democracies in Europe face something similar now.

 

[80watts]

 

[overdone]

I like Perun's videos, but cripes who has 2 hours or something to look at one video? I'll look later on.

But the point you made is basically why Canada was fucked (by Stephen Harper's decision) during COVID. We actually used to have warehouses with stockpiles of PPE, in case of things like.... well, exactly what happened. But the smegheads decided to save some pennies by getting rid of the inventory, and even worse selling the government land it was located on.
Seriously that last part is the worst thing, because they later need land and they have to wade into the private real estate market and compete against developers which makes the price absurd.

oh for fuck sakes

yes, Evil Uncle Steve, it was all his fault, 6 yrs later

who gave PPE to CHINA?

uncle steve? no, the TURD who also wanted to get vaccines from the CHINESE

the Turd did nothing, nothing in those 6 yrs but superficial woke bullshit

and hasn't stopped even up until now

go look a the economics since he took over, fact after fact, shows, declines in every metric

uncle steve was nothing compared to the TURD

you sound like Comrade Trumpf, "Ukraine shouldn't have started that war"

give up your delusions

every piece of shit in the liberal party is now pretending none of that happened

is reversing their policies on everything the Turd said

well, Carney is depending on like the Turd which side of his face/ass he's talking out of

in French or English, in Canada or Que

one thing to one, another to the French, so I guess some things stay the same

cause your Turd did that too, from the beginning to the end

 

[Crookedmember]

WOW. Poilievre is smelling like cat shit on a hot summer day.

 

[Crookedmember]

Ouch Daddy that hurts!


“There’s no stronger believer in the power of the market, and free enterprise, and Milton Friedman, and fundamentalism than someone who’s only ever been a politician. Someone who’s never earned a paycheque or had to make payroll.”


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[PuntMeister]

This just in,

The latest regs will enable BC to drunk its way to prosperity!

Apparently world class destinations don’t shut down their pubs at 1am sharp. Has Vancouver been on the no-fun glidepath for too long? Repelling merriment and tourism and re-circulation of earned income?

Will extending bar hours into the wee morning hours just result in more drunks on the street, and even drunker drunks in cars?

Party on Garth!

 

[overdone]

Ouch Daddy that hurts!


“There’s no stronger believer in the power of the market, and free enterprise, and Milton Friedman, and fundamentalism than someone who’s only ever been a politician. Someone who’s never earned a paycheque or had to make payroll.”


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your guy is like your idiots in BC, who think they're balancing a budget, by pretending there are 2 budgets

and 2 different sets of books

one for operational and one for Capital ie slush fund for delusional projects that don't really improve the economy but just add to the debt, corporate welfare

of which the Turd was great at, which Carney says he'll continue

go look at the facts, about his green delusions and how they're the only way forward for the world

he wrote a book about it, had a elite club of companies set up, all of who are jumping ship

yeah, he's the chosen one

he's Turd 2.0, with all of the Turds former enablers, already publicly backing him

putting lipstick on a pig is just that

he's already stated pipelines, yes, english Canada, Que, no, balanced budget no, maybe, kinda, no

corporate welfare that the deluded Liberals think is good, ie votes, yes

there is nothing new here, he's just a boring version of the Turd

more debt, more welfare, more income redistribution

which is what we've had for 9 yrs, why people can't feed themselves, house themselves, save, get ahead

 

[overdone]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/justin-trudeaus-busy-lame-duck-government


NDPer's this is who your moron leader enabled

the only saving grace is we won't have to put up with Jimmy Singh for long anymore

he's going to be wiped out instead of the Liberals now

 

[overdone]

This just in,

The latest regs will enable BC to drunk its way to prosperity!

Apparently world class destinations don’t shut down their pubs at 1am sharp. Has Vancouver been on the no-fun glidepath for too long? Repelling merriment and tourism and re-circulation of earned income?

Will extending bar hours into the wee morning hours just result in more drunks on the street, and even drunker drunks in cars?

Party on Garth!

yeah being treated like Adults is bad

cause the graveyards and prisons are full in all the other Provinces where it's been happening for decades

just like all the other nanny laws that keep society in check work so well

the fact that you can't get alcohol legally till your 19 there is just as pathetic, old enough to be an adult in every other way

but not that

but free drugs used anywhere everywhere, sure

bars/restaurants being able to serve drinks past bedtime of 11pm is bad

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Don't all you rational pooners here find that some of the posters on these political forums are just here, just like chimpanzees, to sling shit?

 

[Crookedmember]

More bad news for Pierre Poilievre, the lifelong politician who has never held a real job.

He's as cold as grandma's toes.

Trudeau got his final revenge.

 

[masterblaster]