You sit there and lament the message/messenger on the right. You fail to see that the bigger issue (which you should be truly lamenting, since you seem to be anit-conservative) is that the messenger on the other side (i.e. JT) cannot deliver their message (i.e. support for the carbon tax, why it's good, whatever), because the messenger is no longer credible. Contrary to what you are trying to imply, "axe the tax" is NOT some moral failure on the part of your neighbours (i.e. Canadian votes) - it's a failure on the part of the Libs. It's the Libs that didn't seeing the writing on the wall (i.e. their own issues with their own messenger). But of course, you have to turn it into something being inherently wrong with your neighbours. You blame your neighbours for losing faith in this current federal Lib govt - your disdain should NOT be targeted to your neighbours, rather, it should be directed at the person/people (i.e. JT and this Lib govt) that have failed (in the eyes of Canadian voters) so badly that large swaths of your neighbours no longer listen to anything they say. The Libs don't have a message problem, they have a messenger problem. Saying nothing for the fact that a majority of Canadians do believe climate change needs to be dealt with. But again, it's that the main party pushing it (i.e. the federal Libs) lack so much credibility in the eyes of Canadians, that it really doesn't matter what the Libs say, about carbon tax or anything really. Canadians have long since tuned out JT/the federal Libs - that is NOT the fault of your neighbours. Polling indicates that a good chunk of current CPC supporters are willing to lose certain things they like (i.e. the Libs daycare program, gov't dental coverage, etc.), simply to get rid of JT. Something like 15% of CPC voters/supporters are soft CPC supporters. But that 15% of "soft" CPC support, apparently, they are "hard" supporters of getting rid of JT! Think about that for a minute - 15% of CPC voters are willing to lose things they like, because their dislike of JT is far greater than how much they like cheap daycare or dental programs, whatever. But you can't bring yourself to see that - you still try and imply that your neighbours are the problem. That a good number of former Libs voters/supporters are now soft CPC supporters is NOT some moral failings of your neighbours - it's simply the utter failure of the LPC to "read the room". Your neighbours turned on JT rather quickly (2015 majority to minority in his 2nd and 3rd mandates). JT called the last federal election when he didn't have to. He called it (paraphrasing) "the most consequential election in modern Canadian history" - and the voters said "no", and delivered almost the exact same seat distribution to his 2nd election. And Lib supporters (people like you) took a victory lap, instead seeing the writing on the walls. Hardcore Libs supporters failed to see that every other major provincial Premier that called a Covid election - got relected with meaningful increases in seat count (Horigan won more seats, Ford won more seats, Legault won more seats) but not the federal Libs. And you still think something is wrong with Canadians. You're literally coping narrative about "it's sad that people support CPC" is rather pathetic. It's pathetic because Canadians have (in their polite fashion) have been telling the Libs "we don't like JT" - but of course, the LPC (at present) truly is a cult of personality. That's an issue with the LPC and it's more diehard supporters. Y'all should've ditched JT after the last election. But of course, you Lib diehards always want to patrionize your neighbours with stuff like "we all need to do better". LOL! Hate to break it to you. Canadians tried to be polite about it (i.e. voting in JT with a majority and then reducing him to a minority twice after that, the last time giving JT pretty much the same minority as the 2nd time) - and you still couldn't "read the room"! Don't blame your neighbours - your neighbours have politely told the Libs and people like you (lib supporters) "no, we don't need to do better, you do" - and your neighbours even gave you one more chance to be better (i.e. get rid of your messanger). But you didn't. It's three strikes and you're out, not four! LOL
right... so... nothing? is that it?
thats a very long winded response when you are just saying... people don't like JT. you could have just said that. i never liked him either.
How is axing the tax bending over for big oil? Are we all to drive electric vehicles, ride bicycles to work or perhaps bring back the horse and buggy days? Are we to throw away our gas furnaces and resort to wood burning stoves to heat our houses?
I will interject here. Based on what I have seen and having had many clients in heavy industrial, he simply does not believe any savings will be passed on. And neither do I. Most execs and managers I know, simply look at it as extra profit. Certainly for gasoline although it might be different for natural gas.
So if the carbon tax is gotten rid of, the local gas station will not reduce the gasoline price by the amount of carbon tax that has been eliminated but keep the gas price the same and pocket the difference? I sincerely doubt consumers would stand for such thievery, not to mention the government.
The local gas station may temporarily cut it but then it will seep back. People have already been paying the price and the oil companies know it. In the Lower Mainland, everybody blames the governments but the cartels are strong here. You can wish for whatever you want but the consumers keep on buying. So honestly I don't think it will matter. Just my opinion and I could be wrong. I work for a large multinational and have for others. They really couldn't care less, they will get their extra profits.
I see, so keep the carbon tax so the big bad oil companies don’t gouge us at the pumps?
No, I didn't quite say that. I do not have a crystal ball. My opinion is that it is unlikely that you will see much relief. The three parties who might get the money are the government, the oil company or the consumer. I just think that the consumer is the least likely to benefit much. I also suspect that poorer Canadians who were getting the rebate were probably better off with the government getting the tax.
Spare me your defence of the tax by the tired old rhetoric that poorer Canadians are better off by paying it. Makes no sense to give the government tax money and then have some bloated bureaucracy to manage it and give it back to the taxpayer, there could be nothing more inefficient.
I never claimed the CPC are going to get rid of those things. The polling of soft CPC supporters indicate that a good portion of that soft support believes the CPC will get rid of some of those things and/or are willing to accept losing those things, simply to get rid of the current PM.
Not as dangerous as the clown currently steering the country into ruination.
right so... nothing then. no plan.
so its not relevant then. fine.
