Sounds like the high speed ferry boondoggle of some years back. That was an NDP project that the contractor said nobody seemed to be in charge of.
2024 Canadian Political Thread
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From the past you learn from your mistakes. What counts is the present and your future action, to make sure you don't repeat the mistakes of the past.
I don't have a hate on for Aboriginals, but I would like to see them pay land taxes and income taxes. That way the Aboriginals would be helping instead of just taking. So break the treaties and call their land conquered. Tax the land on reservations and the Aboriginals for income tax. Then they can whine all about being dragged into the 21 century, and pay taxes just like any other Canadian.
All the land in Canada belongs to the Crown/Government, and giving it away and its resources are taking away from future generations of Canadians.
If the Aboriginals don't like our society, then they shouldn't watch TV, use cell phones, drive cars, have guns etc. They are hunter/gathers, in a world where hunting and gathering aren't a way of life today. I'm pretty sure my ancestors were hunter gathers too, but some where along the line they adapted to the new surrounding etc. etc etc.
I'm gonna venture and say the average Canadian would like to see their tax money spent on relevant things that affect their everyday lives. Transportation, roads, and rapid transit. Housing, Cheaper food, lower mortgages/rates.
As for language, pretty sure if you walk on a reservation and talk in English, everyone will understand you, they just might not talk back to you in English.
Did you know that according to the treaties they can get free education at Canadian schools. I have to wonder why most Aboriginals don't finish high school to go on to university/college, because it dosen't cost them a dime.
Its in the interest of the Aboriginal leaders to keep their flock uneducated (that way they actually whine more). Harper was going to make the Aboriginals have accountability for the money the Reservations spent.
In 2023 the Canadian Gov budget is 497 Billion. Aboriginals gov agencies had a budget of 39B. That is 12% of the budget spent on less than 1% of the population of Canada. The real amount is actually higher due to other government departments that support the reservations in various activities.
I think its fair to ask them to pay taxes, don't you.
Democracy in Canada is not gonna to work, unless every body in Canada pays their fair share. The Rules should apply fairly to everyone.
Forgetting all the governement sponsored childhood trauma inflicted on a people because the looked different and spoke another language and the literal stealing of children up until the previous decade:
So what about fair compensation for stolen land? Or are property rights only something that applies to the last people to get there? Or do we just kick it down the road some more until someone says 'oh that was so long ago , we should just forget it'.
Your timeline for hitting reset convienently benefits your own status and makes no address of what has gone on and how youve benefitted. We pay the real and fair price , either in the long or the short term.
The Liberals pretty much squeezed all the juice out of the government departments during this time of budget reduction. It took alot of money and effort to get the departments working again. Harper had to spend money for the CAF, in order to send troops to Afghanistan.
Look at the Canadian Armed forces, budget cuts in the 1990, pretty much gutted the Armed forces training system, with recruits waiting up to 2 years for their trades training courses. Lack of instructors.
The Canadian Forces recruitment system suffered the same shit. Today it has problems recruiting for the CAF.
Those budget cuts had immediate affects, and lasting affects that are still felt today. Not just the military, but all the other government departments.
I hope your not one of those colonizers are bad persons. The English colonized Canada and took over for good or bad, that is the way it is.
Bad shit that has happened to you in the past, dosen't mean you can't pull up your boot straps and carry on with life. Move forward.
Taxing Aboriginals isn't so bad, unless you figure they are gonna whine about it.
My concern is the future of the rest of Canadians, put all of us (Aboriginals and all other Canadian citizens) in the same playing field. Treat us all the same.
Yep, im sure that exactly what you would say given role reversal."oh well, sucks that they stole my land, abducted , beat and raped my children, but oh well thats life! Better pull myself up by the bootstraps and pay into the system that continues the abuse me". Fer sure.
The "They stole my land" train has left the station.
It won't be coming back.
Ever.
No, you won't be getting your land back.
No, you won't be getting "reparations"
The dream never dies, just the dreamer.
I guess that makes all your stuff and family fair game for the taking then. Level playing field / golden rule and all.
BC never fought wars or had treaty. Moved places and then one day said 'we own this'. The settlements you're seeing these days are ongoing, with Hadia Gwaii just recently be8ng returned.
And dont forget, indigenous folks are the only ones in Canada who are having kids at greater than replacement. Couple of gens they might even be a majority.
Yes, the inflation, the corruption and government overspending are the fault of churches, oil companies and Loblaws.
LMFAO!
It's interesting that you view taxes as a punitive measure - you know, as opposed to what taxes are, generally speaking taxes (maybe with the exception of sin taxes) are merely a means to raise revenues to pay for things. Saying nothing for the fact that, sure, tax Galen Weston or Loblaws more - taxing someone else more simply means the government has more, it doesn't mean the price of milk will go down. The Libs had an extra tax (albeit temporary) on financial firms like banks and insurance companies, I'm pretty sure that didn't cause everyone's bank fees or insurance premiums to go down.
My ancestors came from Ireland to Quebec in 1846.Lost thier land in Scotland prior to that. Stolen from them in both countries. I never thought that I should be entitled to get it back.
The land was conquered at least 3-4 generation ago in the 1860-1890s.
If your children are being beaten and raped, it most likely isn't the government doing it.
There are a few Reservations that are very successful. The question is why were they successful where others were not successful. Well one of the first thing they did was make the reservation alcohol free.
The big thing that makes most reservations fail (that depend on federal government assistance), is the educational level of the reserve. On these failed reserves there is rampant drug and alcohol issues (guess who the drug dealer is, just fucken guess...). Very few Aboriginals on these reservations get a high school diplomas.
In every reservation there is a class system, the haves (money distributers) and have nots (complainers).
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/newly-discovered-b-c-graves-a-grim-reminder-of-the-heartbreaking-death-toll-of-residential-schools#:~:text=The commission ultimately determined that at least 3,200,students enrolled during the program’s nearly 120-year existence.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/iap-final-report-residential-schools-1.5946103#:~:text=The cost of compensating thousands of victims of,from the committee overseeing the independent assessment process.
3200 children died. That was 1 in 50 that went to reservation schools. 28,000 Survivors got paid a lump sum of 3 Billion dollars.
So in the meantime since the 1890s
Boer War in South Africa, WW1 1914-1918 (61,122 killed, 52,751wounded), WW2 1939-1945 (42,000 killed, 55,000 wounded), Korean 1950-1953, Bosnia in 1990s, Afghanistan 2001-2014.
Meanwhile in Canada, Great Winnipeg Strike 1919, Spanish Flu (1919- 50,000 dead), The great depression 1929-1939 (considered ended by WW2), 1950-1970 socialist concepts of Welfare, social assistance, Unemployment insurance, old age security were being implemented, and income tax act in early 1970s to permanently make income tax to stay forever in Canadian history. The cold war lasted from 1947 to 1991.
1970s energy crisis. High interest rates late 1970/early 1980s (Bank forclosures on failed mortgages).
For the most part the world was secure from the end of the cold war to today.
War in Ukraine which will affect Europe and Great Britain. The flaunting of China armed presence into the South China Sea (affects 70% of world shipping). Chinas desire to take back Taiwan, where the best computer chips are made.
One of the main things in the last 30 years is the internet and the available information. Social media (prob should be called hype media).
For the future, the falling back of the US presence in the world. Piracy and closing of the Suez due to Houthis in Yemen.
For the rest of Canadians since the 1890s other shit was happening in the world and in Canada.
Sounds to me that there were far more casualties in WW1 and WW2. So basicly you should stop whining about the land, the reservation schools, because alot more people died so that any Canadians can whine about anything (free to speak). That about 103,000 vs 3200 deaths (not wounded). Those 103,000 killed, their loss affected their families too.
Just to add to the fire, Orphanages were no better, at least the Reservation School kids did have families back on the reservation.
Dont whine about the past, pull up your boot straps and carry on.....
That horrible contractor from the wastewater project is on the list to build the new Skytrain stations to Langley 🤦🏻♂️
This is tired right wing meme bullshit that we've all heard before.
China is on board and building huge solar farms to transition from expensive fossil fuels to inexpensive renewables (before you blather about Chinese coal plants, look-up 'transition' in the dictionary). 60% of the EVs sold in the world are sold in China. Much of the same is going on in India.
In fact, the only folks in denial are MAGA Republicans in the US (who also believe God sent Trump), some Canadian Reform Party conservatives (who are almost as ridiculous), and Putin.
So you're not exactly in good company.
Smart people know that to remain competitive we must transition to cheaper renewables (compare electricity prices in BC and Quebec to the shitshow in oil, coal and gas-burning Alberta).
If you guys were around 100 years ago, we'd still be riding horses and up to our asses in horseshit. Fossil fuels had a good run, but that's slowly coming to an end.
What creates inflation is using energy that is priced halfway around the world by dictators in Saudi Arabia and Moscow, because they control the supply.
What creates inflation is shortages caused by a war that is funded by Putin's oil revenue.
https://time.com/china-massive-floating-solar-field/
1--solar panel
1212 lbs of coal
441 lbs of oil coke
1322 lbs of charcoal
661 lbs wood chips
yup really green
