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2024 Canadian Political Thread
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This, and corps are near record profits. The social contract is breaking. Apparently even serfs only worked 150 days a year or so in the middle ages, time for a 3 day work week.
the fix is so obvious... i wish it was taught to elementary children.
when income inequality is high, strengthen progressive taxation. historically socialist tax regimes.
when income inequality is low, strengthen regressive taxation. historically conservative tax regimes.
No, fake economy. Regularly see new Teslas, Cadillacs and any number of new Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans in neighbourhoods that expect to live off the avails of apartment construction while virtually every product that goes in or employed including the inhabitants must be imported.
This is the path set by the BC Liberals and the Socreds before them that the BC Cons want to continue - unhindered real estate as primary industry and seeking foreign capital investment no matter what the cost.
The NDP has continued the policy IMO, but at least made some attempts to mitigate the negative effects. I still think the whole policy as short sighted and will prove ephemeral. Industrial development done in a sustainable fashion would pay longer term dividends.
yeah and the devil is in the details
and you think the average person now actually works more than 3 days, 24hrs a week now? hahaha
and how about the other side of the coin
welfare, the welfare state is also at it's highest level
or do you think all that debt that the Turd put on in 8 short years was for infrastructure? investments?
not to mention all the provincial debt, for 2 things, edumacation/health, both which are monopolies provided by the gov't
which don't produce any wealth/income, in other words consume income from the 3-40% who don't work for the gov't now
Stats Canada
60% roughly of Canadians participate in the workforce
25% are gov't employees
basic math, you've got 1/3 roughly feeding the trough
little wonder why there's inequity
and it's only going to get worse, with the boomers still coming to retire
look at the amount of idiots who want to give them more welfare with a 10% bump in OAS, welfare, out of general revenue
which again, only 1/3 roughly has to come up with
and you want to shorten the work week by 40%
in an economy that has no productivity gains in 40 yrs?
which mensa chapter do you belong to?
this is about a left wing zealot view of blaming the "rich" of who there aren't enough to tax to prosperity for the other 99%
plus, it's statscan, it's on the net
not to mention go read any economist who isn't a moron, left wing zealot, right wing zealot
the bottom 20%, those who really need help aren't really worse off, nor better off, after all the supposed "help" "fairness"
the middle are, worse off, cause they pay the most taxes in real totals, cause they're the largest part of the population
cause they can't afford tax lawyers, the ability to move themselves, companies
this has been going on for 40 years, due to bad policies, like moronic immigration, keeping wages down, monopolies, protectionist policies in certain industries, more and more unending debt, not for economic endeavors
and all about welfare for all
then why isn't it working? we've had 8 yrs of it on steroids, things have never been worse
taxes higher on the "rich" well not really, high middle class, sure
you know, details
why do you think the Turd has brought in so many immigrants/students/TFW's?
not just in hopes they will vote for him
but to mask the poor economic policies, not that he believes that, he really thinks they make things better, too bad facts don't support that
you know, details
balance, it's been out of whack for decades, with no adults in the room to force the children to adjust
and you really think people are productive at work for 40hrs a week? haha
you never had a job? coworkers?
talked to a gov't employee? 25% of the population now, most who don't even have to show up for 40hrs
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/soft-corruption-of-government-workers
you really needed to be "enlightened" to figure this one out?
you think it's any different in general?
or haven't you heard our productivity is negative, has been declining for decades?
enlighten you, I don't think that's possible
you are absolutely correct!
but conservative tax regimes do not make that situation better! they only make it worse! by its very definition.
Regressive tax
"Neoliberalism, characterized by its emphasis on free markets, limited government intervention, and individual responsibility, has had a profound impact on tax systems worldwide. Neoliberal tax policies typically prioritize reducing taxes for the wealthy and corporations under the belief that such measures stimulate economic growth and investment. This approach often results in regressive tax structures, where the burden falls disproportionately on lower-income individuals and households.
In contrast to neoliberalism, social democratic ideologies advocate for progressive taxation as a means of redistributing wealth and funding social welfare programs. Progressive taxation entails higher tax rates for those with higher incomes, with the aim of mitigating inequality and providing resources for public goods and services. Social democratic countries often prioritize universal access to healthcare, education, and social security, funded through progressive taxation and robust public investment."
Neoliberalism
" The term neoliberalism has become increasingly prevalent in recent decades. It has been a significant factor in the proliferation of conservative and right-libertarian organizations, political parties, and think tanks, and predominantly advocated by them. Neoliberalism is often associated with a set of economic liberalization policies, including privatization, deregulation, consumer choice, globalization, free trade, monetarism, austerity, and reductions in government spending. These policies are designed to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society. "
and regarding GDP... this is exactly what happens when Neoliberalism is out of control. with so much of the GDP in the hands of so few, there is nothing but monopolization. we essentially become Russia, where the income gap is on steroids and a country of 144 million people have a GDP on par with our own.
when wealth is shared down the the whole cake gets bigger, not smaller and there is far more room for economic expansion past the status quo monopolies.
your ultimate concerns are very real. that too much progressive taxation leads to virtual ownership of wealth generators by the state. but we are not anywhere near that position and still moving in the opposite direction as indicated by the recent numbers on equity gap and the record amount of non-working capital that companies are sitting on.
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first off we're no where near Russia, never have been with a conservative gov't
but we're far closer to socialist territory now
basic stats show our decline, for the last 2 yrs, we've been in a recession, only the moronic immigration, false policy makes GDP look somewhat Ok, 2 decades declining productivity
yes we are near it, when you're taking 50% of people's income, they stop generating wealth, pretty much every province/fed rate, top is there
cause there is no case to invest/generate wealth
that's why investment in Canada has plummeted since the Turd got in, except when he's subsidized the fuck out of it
and they are sitting on money, cause they aren't going to invest in when they have a Turd in power
it makes no sense to
talk to economists, normal ones, they will tell you there is a balance % of what the economy should be in gov't/private
we are in commie territory now, since the Turd
he says it daily
he's smarter than you, you're a moron (Canadians) only he can show you the way forward, if you don't vote for him, things will get worse, yeah, sure
he's giving welfare to all, look at the facts, the incomes he's giving welfare to, what you have to make to be cut off, OAS, daycare, ect...
it's not the poor, needy, those that need a hand up anymore getting the real benefit they need
and if it worked, then why are 2.5% of the people going to foodbanks?
why does he need to feed 400,000 kids, daily? not that it's going to happen
why does he need to pay for kids to be babysat? even when the whole reason is to increase women in the workforce, yet it's not doing that, hasn't in Que for 2 decades, hasn't made their economy great again, lol
people are better off paying for what they want/need, not having the gov't decide
people are better off when they make their own income, sense of worth
study after study shows that
trickle down doesn't work on the cons side
neither does the taking from the few to give to the masses or taxing them excessively, er progressively excessively
https://edmontonsun.com/news/nation...30-employees-over-cerb-claims-during-pandemic
https://edmontonsun.com/news/national/global-affairs-canada-spent-3-3m-on-booze-since-2019
liberalism?
until shit like this is eliminated
just like why Jimmy Singh is getting a pension after only 6 short years that most won't/can't dream of having at 55
what we're going thu now
is socialists out of control
balance
the mess we're in now, is going to take a decade, if not more to come out of
Cons always talk about how the rich are taxed too much and civil servants make too much. Points the average person could go along with.
But then almost without fail always the first thing they do is cut programs for the least well off like food programs,welfare , seniors subsidies, mental health, and dissabilities. Its like theres a sadistist motive at play.
But then almost without fail always the first thing they do is cut programs for the least well off like food programs,welfare , seniors subsidies, mental health, and dissabilities. Its like theres a sadistist motive at play.
We are in a very crappy situation in Canada and have been for years. We have very little manufacturing to begin with, and we continue to allow foreign interests to buy up the resources and businesses, or to move in and set up shop. We allow Canadian residents to cross border shop diverting dollars to the U.S.. Customs does not enforce the regulations and allows people to bring back goods without duties and taxes when they are outside the limits and regulations. Duty free exemptions were doubled a number of years ago to appease the U.S. while hurting our own businesses and economy. The people complain about the number of businesses closing. We are our own worst enemies.
Then we have politicians that are the least qualified to run the country and couldn’t run their own business if they tried. There isn’t one leader that is qualified at present. They put restrictions on people owning AirBnB’s in B.C., basically telling people what they can do with their property or how to invest. Then if you want to sell your investment the Feds now tax the gain even more. Talk about getting screwed. They want more homes built and subsidized with our tax dollars, but people still can’t afford them, and we don’t have the tradespeople to build them. Let’s just keep robbing from the middle class to help the poor, the challenged, and drug users. The NDP in B.C. keep promising to rectify things but have not accomplished things in the last number of years or fulfilled previous promises. All their promises come at a cost but nothing about where the money will come from. Why believe them now?
We are setting up today’s youth to service an unmanageable debt in the future without curing the problems that already exist.
We have government at all levels that spend recklessly not considering where the money is going to come from or how taxes will impact citizens. I can see the day that seniors will not be able to afford to live in their own homes that they own clear title. And while at it single seniors do not get a break. A senior couple gets twice the income and subsidies that a single receives, but both have the same expenses of rent, mortgage, property tax, utilities, living expenses.
I am glad I am in the later years of my life and not just starting out, as there is little to look forward to in the future.
Then we have politicians that are the least qualified to run the country and couldn’t run their own business if they tried. There isn’t one leader that is qualified at present. They put restrictions on people owning AirBnB’s in B.C., basically telling people what they can do with their property or how to invest. Then if you want to sell your investment the Feds now tax the gain even more. Talk about getting screwed. They want more homes built and subsidized with our tax dollars, but people still can’t afford them, and we don’t have the tradespeople to build them. Let’s just keep robbing from the middle class to help the poor, the challenged, and drug users. The NDP in B.C. keep promising to rectify things but have not accomplished things in the last number of years or fulfilled previous promises. All their promises come at a cost but nothing about where the money will come from. Why believe them now?
We are setting up today’s youth to service an unmanageable debt in the future without curing the problems that already exist.
We have government at all levels that spend recklessly not considering where the money is going to come from or how taxes will impact citizens. I can see the day that seniors will not be able to afford to live in their own homes that they own clear title. And while at it single seniors do not get a break. A senior couple gets twice the income and subsidies that a single receives, but both have the same expenses of rent, mortgage, property tax, utilities, living expenses.
I am glad I am in the later years of my life and not just starting out, as there is little to look forward to in the future.
like Denmark or Norway? they seem to be doing fine...
mind you, they have a very robust progressive tax regime with significantly smaller equity gaps.
there's no talking to old retired white guys who are still afraid of communists so... we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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i agree with much of what you say.
its pretty well recognized (as i've cited in other posts) that the boom in housing prices has made a subset of us rich and done little for canada's economy and future. for the last two decades the entire economy has concentrated on real estate and home renovation. people who were not already in the market borrowed insane amounts of money to get in. and none of the parties were willing to tell the baby boomers who already had property and those who just borrowed that the party is over. and they don't seem to be willing to step up to fix the problem now either. literally none of them.
Actually its both the Cons and Libs who pushed things this way. NDP nor the Bloque never held power, both of those two have more leftist tendencies towards protecting out groups.
Why won't Trudeau release classified names — and why won't Poilievre get a security clearance?
PP seems to be having real issues with this one. probably because... his name is on this list! hahaaha!
PP seems to be having real issues with this one. probably because... his name is on this list! hahaaha!
yeah, so would Alberta if it wasn't being used as a cash cow for the rest of the country
Denmark, Norway are like an individual province here or a small single state in the U.S.
hardly comparable
just like the simpletons who keep trying to link Norway's oil fund to AB's and say, why can't AB have that much
and they aren't really socialists, they have free market economies, go look at their school choices compared to Canada, where the socialists, teachers unions, don't want you to have a choice
and details, go look at the tax breaks, subsidies, tax credits, ect.... it's not as bad as the socialists here try to tell people to convince them that we should be doing it here
and if you look, the Turd has pretty much upped our top tax including the provincial rates to be as high as them, so we're already in the same territory as Denmark, Norway
and it's really working here, right?
equity gaps?
is that your speak for they are all pretty much whitey?
take all the margarine people out of the equation here, cause after all they just can't compete with whitey, at least that's what the Turd says, NDP
are we not in the "equity gap" too?
afraid of commies? you mean wannabe dictators, like the Turd, who doesn't think the law applies to him? that the constitution doesn't apply to people who don't agree with him? Truckers
go read about the TMU medical school discrimination being proposed by the socialists
afraid, no, sad, yes, that people think a race to the bottom by using ethnicity/gender/other DEI bullshit rather than one's character/abilities/intelligence
is "progressive"
anymore than taxing people into poverty, the line at the food bank, homelessness, never being able to retire
is progressive, so you can delude yourself into thinking you're leveling the playing field
I don't need to disagree
reality is doing it for me
Sometimes when I read posts in the political threads I have to wonder if the meds just aren't working anymore for the ignored.
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