Israeli/Gaza: am I missing something here?
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Anti semetic refers to...
being anti Jewish... all though the dictionary uses semitic to to describe the people of the middle east.. which would be Jew and Palestinian alike . the turn anti semitic has been coins by a German writer in the 1870 to mean anti jewish and it has become a common way to express that sentiment.
being anti Jewish... all though the dictionary uses semitic to to describe the people of the middle east.. which would be Jew and Palestinian alike . the turn anti semitic has been coins by a German writer in the 1870 to mean anti jewish and it has become a common way to express that sentiment.
Israel Speach To The Un
ISRAEL UN SPEECH
An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently at the UN and made the world community smile.
A representative from Israel began:
"Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses. When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a good opportunity to have a bath!' He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock, and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them."
The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, "What are you talking about? The Palestinians weren't there then."
The Israeli representative smiled and said: "And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech."
ISRAEL UN SPEECH
An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently at the UN and made the world community smile.
A representative from Israel began:
"Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses. When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a good opportunity to have a bath!' He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock, and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them."
The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, "What are you talking about? The Palestinians weren't there then."
The Israeli representative smiled and said: "And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech."
I listened to an radio interview with Alan Berkowitz (?). The first part consisted of him ranting on about the Holocaust in Germany. I couldn't help thinking that that issue has as much to do with what is happening in Israel as the rash outbreak in Honolulu does. This has nothing to do with Jews and racism. It is about Israel's responsiblity to the people who reside within it's borders.
If I ever saw someone committing a racist act against a Jew, or any other minority, I would like to believe that I would act against that individual. But, that is a separate issue.
No ceasefire. 
Fighting escalates as Israel, Hamas reject ceasefire
"JERUSALEM -- Fighting in Gaza and southern Israel was more intense yesterday than it's been for several days as both Israel and Hamas rejected a United Nations ceasefire resolution."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090110.GAZAMAIN10/TPStory/International
Was anybody here at the Vanvouver Art Gallery?
Fighting escalates as Israel, Hamas reject ceasefire
"JERUSALEM -- Fighting in Gaza and southern Israel was more intense yesterday than it's been for several days as both Israel and Hamas rejected a United Nations ceasefire resolution."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090110.GAZAMAIN10/TPStory/International
Was anybody here at the Vanvouver Art Gallery?
THey seem to want geniside
All I can see is Israel falling in the hamase's plan Hamase don't care at all for the Palestinians they are willing to sacrifice them all .. for their agenda.. to get the all the Muslin nations to rise up against Israel an the west. I wish the Palestinians would realize that also. the rest of the counrtyes around there really don't like the Palestinians .. or want them in their countries. Figured that out years ago
Why can;t Israel see that .. they can't really win here.. all they are doing is killing for killing sake .. and that is what the other side wants...
What a fucked up world.
All I can see is Israel falling in the hamase's plan Hamase don't care at all for the Palestinians they are willing to sacrifice them all .. for their agenda.. to get the all the Muslin nations to rise up against Israel an the west. I wish the Palestinians would realize that also. the rest of the counrtyes around there really don't like the Palestinians .. or want them in their countries. Figured that out years ago
Why can;t Israel see that .. they can't really win here.. all they are doing is killing for killing sake .. and that is what the other side wants...
What a fucked up world.
"What a fucked up world."
They do terrible things to each other and they are killing each other in the name of there God. I think this African woman's has best expressed this situation in song.
Its Hard to Believe They Are Children of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3fEXN9EKTk
They do terrible things to each other and they are killing each other in the name of there God. I think this African woman's has best expressed this situation in song.
Its Hard to Believe They Are Children of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3fEXN9EKTk
was this really said?? I like it, im going to use it the next time i get into this argument.
if you read the post from the guy below, he provides a link that proves it to be and urban myth.
We can agree to disagree, it's just a matter of how we each feel about it to makes us happy/satisfied. In fact, there's probably no right or wrong way about it, that's why this war will never end, at least in our times. Well, I can be wrong; if the Palestininas find someone who's willing to make peace, a charismatic leader, a powerful one, that they all want to fight!!!! You have to admit, all these Hamas, Fatah, al Brigades, so many factions, most want to wipe off Isreal and Jews. Again, this is the way I see it, many others, it's in the news, it happens whether you can control it or not.
With civilian deaths in any war, it's unfortunate. Even the 'good guys' ie. Allies, 'we' bombed the German and Japan civilians DIRECTLY during WW2, no matter how justified it was, it is what it is, that's what happened---imagine how they feel about 'us/the West/Allies'.
The whole point is, as has been suggested many times, this Palestian conflict goes back a long ways, and both sides seems hell bent on fighting. Even if Israel does 'appease' the Hamas, can you/others really believe there wont' be any more future rocket attacks? Suicide bombers? I honestly can't see Israel just picking a fight on their own initiative now. Any country reserves the right to defend themselves. How does it feel to have a rocket lobbed in one's backyard?
And your point about that Israeli girl who refused military service; i dust that off, it's no different than some of the American deserters, disgruntled war vets, Vietnam war protestors, or in whatever Guatemala Bay, etc.; it's happened before, and will again in the future, that's war, sadly enough.
HAMAS -Hiding Amongst Mosques And Schools.
You might enjoy watching some of the Hamas produced children's programming which encourages children to become suicide bombers.
Israeli agents martyr cartoon character
Link
New cartoon character promises to eat Israelis and avenge death of previous character
Link
Cartoon about Jews planning to destroy Al-Aqsa mosque.
Link
Our children's programming teaches kids how to overeat and buy toys, not kill themselves and others.
You might enjoy watching some of the Hamas produced children's programming which encourages children to become suicide bombers.
Israeli agents martyr cartoon character
Link
New cartoon character promises to eat Israelis and avenge death of previous character
Link
Cartoon about Jews planning to destroy Al-Aqsa mosque.
Link
Our children's programming teaches kids how to overeat and buy toys, not kill themselves and others.
Since this thread was revived, does anyone want to comment on the events in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict from the past year?
- Goldstone Report and reaction
- US House vote on the Goldstone Report
- Abbas' Decision to defer action on the report until next year
- Abbas' quick 180 on the Goldstone Report
- Abbas saying he won't run again
- Palestinian call for an immediate state
- "World" (U.S./E.U.) reaction to call for an immediate state
- Israeli settlement activity (900 new units announced yesterday)
- Lack of reconstruction from the Gaza "war"
- Other?
The Palestinians have have dozens of chances to make peace and build themselves better lives for them and their children but they would rather be miserable and blame the Israels for them not building a future.
In 2000 Israel offered to give back all territory outside of their original borders under one stipulation that they would not be attacked anymore and that they live in peace. Israel started to withdraw the Palestinians did their cheering and celebrating then launched the biggest attack on Israel in years. Israel retook the territories and the Palestinians cried foul and said Israel broke their word to give the land back.
It's been going on for 60 years the Israeli's offer peace asking only peace in return only to be attacked again and again. Israel builds and improves their country for a better future and only want peace but the Palestinians only want to make others miserable because they don't want to build their own lives.
I have no sympathy for the Palestinians because in my opinion the problems they have are almost entirely their own making and they would just rather play the blame game instead of taking responsibility to make a better life for themselves.
In 2000 Israel offered to give back all territory outside of their original borders under one stipulation that they would not be attacked anymore and that they live in peace. Israel started to withdraw the Palestinians did their cheering and celebrating then launched the biggest attack on Israel in years. Israel retook the territories and the Palestinians cried foul and said Israel broke their word to give the land back.
It's been going on for 60 years the Israeli's offer peace asking only peace in return only to be attacked again and again. Israel builds and improves their country for a better future and only want peace but the Palestinians only want to make others miserable because they don't want to build their own lives.
I have no sympathy for the Palestinians because in my opinion the problems they have are almost entirely their own making and they would just rather play the blame game instead of taking responsibility to make a better life for themselves.
In a nutshell, it is very difficult to deal with people who are proud to say,
"We love death more than you love life"
With that type of logic, it will be very difficult to come to a peace agreement. Until what might be called a moderate Palastinian leadership is in place, peace will just be a wish.
"We love death more than you love life"
With that type of logic, it will be very difficult to come to a peace agreement. Until what might be called a moderate Palastinian leadership is in place, peace will just be a wish.
'We love death more than you love life", could also be the sign of very desperate people. I don't like to judge people, and their situation,unless I have walked a mile in their shoes. There is enough blame to go around on both sides.
For someone who doesn't want to judge people, you just did.
I hope your statement is based on knowledge of the Middle East. Somehow, I have my doublts.
