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hunsperger

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I think the whole thing was nothing more than political posturing;)...

I can't stand politicians :rolleyes:...
 
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Picklebreath

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I think the whole thing was nothing more than a political posturing;)...

I can't stand politicians :rolleyes:...
Your posts don't make any sense whatsoever. Why not just say exactly what you mean? Are you accusing susi of making this up in order to make a point? If so, why not just say so, instead of tiptoeing around it? You are pretty offensive for the most part, anyway, but to me it sounds very much like someone who ends up defending the accused just because he has an issue with the messenger. Which makes you sound like someone who thinks it is okay to use their board membership in order to get special "favours" from new sps, or established ones, and don't want any sps to report on this rather common phenomenon. If too many sps find out that this goes on, maybe no one can get away with it, huh. That would be disappointing for some members and lurkers, wouldn't it.
 

AlwaysLooking

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I completely agree.

Asshole is a mild term to classify this guy in. Perhaps he was compensating for something?

No member of this board should even consider that one poor review will destroy any up and coming career.

How many times have you read threads where one reviewer has had an exceedingly different experience than the rest of the reviewers.

We need more people like Susie and I can only imagine what her friends entering this industry would be like.
 

uncleg

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my sense is...

Susi has been drinking too much wine this Thanksgiving weekend...

almost reads like Mariposa's escapades...
I think the whole thing was nothing more than political posturing;)...

I can't stand politicians :rolleyes:...
The reasoning, if there is any, behind these conclusions is ????:confused:
 

Kong420

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for the most part, i understand where susi is coming from but i still think its in bad taste cause of 2 reasons..
1) it doesn't matter that the guy is asian, whats gonna happen now... every SP that has read this and now gets an asian client is gonna wonder if their getting some jerk... and jerks are jerks, doesn't matter that the guy was asian in the first place.
2) Unless you were there, its just a 3rd party person telling us about some event that she was never at, not to mention we hear ONE side of the story from someone that wasn't even there....

Like i stated at the start, i hear where susi is coming from but theres always more ways than one from point a to b.

Educate your friend about perb susi, if you have not already.
 

JFF009

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she just started babe!she's nervous and doesn't know better, as far as she knew, 1 bad review could end her career. that's the point, inexperienced workers being taken advantage of in the most vulnerable moment of their career...their first customer....an experienced worker would of course know better.....
I don't think she's ready for the business then. She hasn't been coached well enough on what to expect in this business. She will meet assholes and jerks that will try to take advantage of her and try to push her boundaries. She needs to know how to deal with them prior to getting started. It ain't all "Pretty Woman" out here.

I would think that a prerequisite for getting into this line of work is a very thick skin. You need to be able to hear negative things and be able to defend yourself. You need to be able to fend off the aholes and be confident enough in what you can provide that you know you'll be fine.

As for those cursing this guy out I would ask them simply to wake up...there will be a lot of jerks and aholes that partake in this hobby. Hell, there are a lot on both sides of the business. Threatening to take someone's reputation or product hostage happens all the time in many different industries.
 

maroonedsailor

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hmmmmmmmmm

Suz? Let's just wait for him to post that review - meanwhile you could support your friend by referring some good guys you know personally to her - She'll make some coin AND meet some quality guys no?
your very own sailor.......
 

sweet_seductive

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Apr 13, 2007
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i just ran into a friend of mine who just entered the industry, is beautiful and i told her how great it is as a job and how the guys are not jerks and are mostly nice, generous and respectful of boundaries......

well, she got a job and on her very first call ever, ran into an idiot from this board, specifically named perb to her, who pressured her to engage in unsafe sex-ie DFK and BBBJ and when she said she was not comfortable and that unsafe sex practicies were beyond her boundaries, her threatened her with a bad review and stated it would ruin her career.....

she said he was an asian man and i am here to tell you, if i knew who you were i would try to black list you.

her first fuckin call and she gets some fuckin idiot bully trying to make do things she doesn't want to do.....

it's called extortion boys and it's illegal. it's bullshit like this that gives all customers a bad name and fuels abolitionist statements that all customers are predators.you are a predator...jerk.

i hope you are proud of yourself ruining a young womans first experience in this industry. people like you undermine trust between workers and customers and now she is completely nervous instead of having been intriduced to our life style in a way that would have empowered her.....

now she is afraid and keeps checking to see if this idiot is going to run her down with a review...

you fuckin suck......

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Susi was right! It did happen to me and it is a common practice used from the same kind of people she is talking about. Obviously they try to be intimidating verbally and in their manners. They can't go on and get away like normal honest people do in life, that's probably why they feel the need to proceed by threatening and tricking the people. I spoke with clients/friends as well and I know this is the way they like to do business with other people in any other kind of business. My friend read a book about business relations with them and he told me it is unbearable all the tricks and tactics they can use to try to rip off and vanquish people. Including turning the heat on in the summer when it's 30c outside just to make people uncomfortable and trying to ruin their sleep. Not all of them are like that of course. Some of them are wonderful and treats people very nice, but you have to learn to recognize them. Keep your eyes wide open.
 
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curmudgeon

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Sounds like bostich.

Tell her not to worry, no one listens to him anyway. (Plus no one has been as banned as he is from everywhere)

If a poor review shows up of her, just be looking for it and your post will expose him and his handle. :)

I am not sure why people seem shocked by this --- this has happened to just about every new sp out there -- threats from people claiming to be reviewers to get more for less.
/agree

The description and M.O. fits "bostich" perfectly.
 

sweet_seductive

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I had the same experience with someone who called me and said he was "from PERB" and said he wanted to review me.That in itself was a red flag.I mean,who does that...lol.This guy called me up and said basically, " Hi Chelsea, my name is ***** from PERB and I would like to write a review on you.I am guessing that he mentioned he wanted to write a review about me in the first sentence after introducing himself was supposed to intimidate me and make me feel like I better do what he says and and do it the best I can or he will write a "bad review".Anyhow, the session with the member went extremely well and he left with a smile on his face and completely taken care of.He didn't ask for anything out of the ordinary during the session and was a total gentleman through out. As he was leaving he said he was going to write a favourable review on PERB, I thanked him and that was that.Or so I thought! 2 weeks goes by and this member still has not written a review so I politely pm'd him with a reminder of what he had said upon his initial contact with me.Then the next day he called me and said that he was not happy enough with the time we spent together to write a favourable review and how was I going to "compensate" him for the mediocre service he received from me!!!!Mediocre service....lol....this guy left as happy and looked after as it gets! He then eluded to the fact he wanted another "free" session with me so that he could make his mind up about giving me a good review or a bad review! I told him I was onto his game of using his PERB handle for intimidation and free service and told him I did some asking around about him to my many girlfriends in the business and that I found out he had a "habit" of this type of behaviour and to go ahead and do what he's got to do as far as a review was concerned.Now, the truth is I didn't ask around about him but he was such a pro with his tactics I just knew I wasn't the only one he had tried this with.He never did write a review, negative or positive!
The same thing happened to me another time with a regular. When I told him I would not see him again, he started PM the members who reviewed me well in the past as I no longer accepted reviews at the time and he tried to bad word me and calling me a piece of work in order to meet in the hope that maybe they would stop seeing me. Not to mention about the number of bad review threads coming from black-listed clients or individuals that have been simply refused a meeting or options from a SP. Like many other great SPs, I do not need to rely on Reviews or freebie.
 

ethan604

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This happens more then we are aware of I am told. To girls that are new and to girls that are not so new.
 

Cookies N Scream

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If she goes back to working she needs to be trained on how to screen clients. Then she could have threatened to post him online in the Black List back, and wouldn't have done unsafe sex.
You should send her a copy of Trade Secrets Susie!xo
 

sweet_seductive

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Your posts don't make any sense whatsoever. Why not just say exactly what you mean? Are you accusing susi of making this up in order to make a point? If so, why not just say so, instead of tiptoeing around it? You are pretty offensive for the most part, anyway, but to me it sounds very much like someone who ends up defending the accused just because he has an issue with the messenger. Which makes you sound like someone who thinks it is okay to use their board membership in order to get special "favours" from new sps, or established ones, and don't want any sps to report on this rather common phenomenon. If too many sps find out that this goes on, maybe no one can get away with it, huh. That would be disappointing for some members and lurkers, wouldn't it.
Your explanation really makes sense.
 

sweet_seductive

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I had another guy who tried to bad word me just because when he was contacting me, I was busy and later unavailable because of a multiple hours date. My intention was not to make him wait or upset. I don`t remember him as he probably posted after, but from reading the short notes I wrote about him beside his name in my agenda, he was a nice guy, clean and polite. I assume it was just a little incident, but still I was quite surprised as I usually never turn down regulars.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?77534-Weary&highlight=lana+delisher
 

sweet_seductive

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I had the same experience with someone who called me and said he was "from PERB" and said he wanted to review me.That in itself was a red flag.I mean,who does that...lol.This guy called me up and said basically, " Hi Chelsea, my name is ***** from PERB and I would like to write a review on you.I am guessing that he mentioned he wanted to write a review about me in the first sentence after introducing himself was supposed to intimidate me...
As a mattter of fact Chelsea it is rare.
 

sweet_seductive

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If she goes back to working she needs to be trained on how to screen clients. Then she could have threatened to post him online in the Black List back, and wouldn't have done unsafe sex.
You should send her a copy of Trade Secrets
Yes she can post him online in the neighborhood watch section of perb or in another site especially dedicated for that matter Dangerzone411.


thanks cookies!!i did. and i have seen her since and she is feeling a bit better.
love susie
Glad she is feeling a bit better now.
 

Cookies N Scream

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thanks cookies!!i did. and i have seen her since and she is feeling a bit better.
love susie
Good thing! I think many people get duped in one-way or another when they first start out whether it by the clients, the business owners, or by other workers who have a hidden agenda.
We all have to protect ourselves and not trust anybody! I find many workers just way too trusting.
 

sweet_seductive

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We all have to protect ourselves and not trust anybody! I find many workers just way too trusting.
I agree. As for myself, I have an electronic agenda with the handles I have met in forum with short notes. If a member had some issues or behavioral problems which is rare, I do not see him again and I truly tell him politely. I recalled few members who reacted in a very bad way from my polite honesty (not the guy mentioned previously) same thing when I politely refused an option. I always keep clear record of who I see in forum and I do not keep phone numbers for my own safety as I too have a life beside. I am also aware that it's a competition board first and not only clients are posting. Happy New Year :p
 
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