Group hugz!! (except for lennyCan I get one of those too,
Love,
Phil.....
Sorry couldn't pass on that one.... bad me... bad me....
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To the women: Has this happened to you?
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I think some people just like to argue (cough, ahem, Lenny). They don't care if they make sense they just like to type and see the pretty words form on the screen. Who cares if it makes sense or not.
I wasn't going to comment on this thread as my stories are kind of lame, but I would just love to get this thread back on track because it seems Miss Takes is lookin' for a little community support.
2 stories:
-I was going door to door singing Christmas carols last year with a group of friends and got a PM the next day from a client that I had a lovely singing voice. (I didn't recognize him when I was standing on his doorstep but when I thought back I did.)
-Years ago before I started all this crazy stuff I met a guy at a party where I was a topless poker dealer. He asked me at the time if I did 'anything else'. I felt complimented that someone would pay to sleep with me but I wasn't in that head space yet so said 'no'. Later when I was advertising on CL for voyeur shows (without face pics) he walked in and we both were surprised to see each other. We went ahead with the appointment and several more, each time he asked for more. (When I gave the FS a trial run he was the first person I emailed to see if he wanted to be my guinea pig. He finally got what he had wanted for years and it was hot.)
Anyway, Miss Takes, I doubt that made you feel any better but for sure that guy is a dickhead. There will be dickheads everywhere you go (Perb included) as well as supportive, positive nice folks. I hope you don't let him get under your skin for another moment. He's in the rear view mirror. Surround yourself with good energy. xo
2 stories:
-I was going door to door singing Christmas carols last year with a group of friends and got a PM the next day from a client that I had a lovely singing voice. (I didn't recognize him when I was standing on his doorstep but when I thought back I did.)
-Years ago before I started all this crazy stuff I met a guy at a party where I was a topless poker dealer. He asked me at the time if I did 'anything else'. I felt complimented that someone would pay to sleep with me but I wasn't in that head space yet so said 'no'. Later when I was advertising on CL for voyeur shows (without face pics) he walked in and we both were surprised to see each other. We went ahead with the appointment and several more, each time he asked for more. (When I gave the FS a trial run he was the first person I emailed to see if he wanted to be my guinea pig. He finally got what he had wanted for years and it was hot.)
Anyway, Miss Takes, I doubt that made you feel any better but for sure that guy is a dickhead. There will be dickheads everywhere you go (Perb included) as well as supportive, positive nice folks. I hope you don't let him get under your skin for another moment. He's in the rear view mirror. Surround yourself with good energy. xo
lots of mistakes
"Phil" was there.
Phil is a guy that has lived in the neighbourhood for more years than anyone can remember. He's known me since I was a child and he knew about me first hand during the time I was working on the street. I wouldn't classify him as a regular but he did see me on numerous occasions during that period of my life. I would do him in his car and he would tell me what a good girl I was.
So Phil is sitting on a lawn chair sipping a beer and he's watching my every move. He's fully aware that I'm out of the game now and he looks at me like I'm dog shit.
My question is, has this ever happened to you? how did you feel about this chance encounter?
For the guys I guess the question would be have you ever bumped into a SP that you have been with while you were with your significant other?
Misstakes, I have made many mistakes in my life and will make many more I am sure. Phil sounds like a real prick. I have met professional women I have been with and 'amateurs' and it matters not whether they are pros or not, the heart races with nerves either way. If Prick was low enough to send that message to you, I only hope you can see how low he is.
My own mistakes include cruising at 2am, picking up a desperate girl, and feeling shitty afterwards, relieved but shitty. And I have made that mistake more than once. It's fucked, but we are all human and prone to making and repeating mistakes. If anyone on this board or anywhere else doesn't make mistakes you're deluded.
I often feel like a piece of shit when I think of some of the dates picked up at 2am after beers. 20 years ago I was a walking hardon. Today I am only hard 90% of the time and the other 10% I am fortunate enough to think a bit and . . . to do it all again eh. Can't, so all I can do is know the shit I did then I won't do now.
Miss Jasmine - you are fricken hot (I will be thinking about you 90% of the time) point is, don't worry, be happy and look forward
"Phil" was there.
Phil is a guy that has lived in the neighbourhood for more years than anyone can remember. He's known me since I was a child and he knew about me first hand during the time I was working on the street. I wouldn't classify him as a regular but he did see me on numerous occasions during that period of my life. I would do him in his car and he would tell me what a good girl I was.
So Phil is sitting on a lawn chair sipping a beer and he's watching my every move. He's fully aware that I'm out of the game now and he looks at me like I'm dog shit.
My question is, has this ever happened to you? how did you feel about this chance encounter?
For the guys I guess the question would be have you ever bumped into a SP that you have been with while you were with your significant other?
Misstakes, I have made many mistakes in my life and will make many more I am sure. Phil sounds like a real prick. I have met professional women I have been with and 'amateurs'
and it matters not whether they are pros or not, the heart races with nerves either way. If Prick was low enough to send that message to you, I only hope you can see how low he is. My own mistakes include cruising at 2am, picking up a desperate girl, and feeling shitty afterwards, relieved but shitty. And I have made that mistake more than once. It's fucked, but we are all human and prone to making and repeating mistakes. If anyone on this board or anywhere else doesn't make mistakes you're deluded.
I often feel like a piece of shit when I think of some of the dates picked up at 2am after beers. 20 years ago I was a walking hardon. Today I am only hard 90% of the time and the other 10% I am fortunate enough to think a bit and . . . to do it all again eh. Can't, so all I can do is know the shit I did then I won't do now.
Miss Jasmine - you are fricken hot (I will be thinking about you 90% of the time)
point is, don't worry, be happy and look forward.
i suppose next time you see a girl sad and high at 3:00am on the street you can ask her why she's there and maybe buy her a cup of coffee. i suppose i'd offer the same other than the fact that i'd get picked up by the cops for "racial profiling" if i was cruising around at that time. plus richmond doesn't really have alot of street walkers.
while i kinda understand your bleeding heart for these girls, i don't think all of them have the same scenario. it's like hearing about a drug dealer getting shot and wondering if he had a choice to enter the business or not. sometimes people make bad choices and suffer the consequences. getting high is one of them. as far as paying a street hooker for sex, never done it but ignorance is bliss - many men choose not to think about the reason their sp is there, just that they can acquire an orgasm in exchange for $$. we try not to ask the girls at amps or micros why they are there either.
i suppose next time you see a girl sad and high at 3:00am on the street you can ask her why she's there and maybe buy her a cup of coffee. i suppose i'd offer the same other than the fact that i'd get picked up by the cops for "racial profiling" if i was cruising around at that time. plus richmond doesn't really have alot of street walkers.
You're kidding, right?
Vancouver is known for its, "Kiddie Stroll", with prostitutes found as young as 7 years old In boys town, pedos were always cruising for some under 16 action. Many aboriginal children are put out on the streets by their own family (the majority by an uncle who is also sexually abusing them). I too feel sad for the girls working the low-track. Good luck finding one who isn't in the process of coming down and has a little weasel standing a half block away waiting for his drug ticket to cash in for him. Before you chastise these women for their drug habits, VERY few are using for recreational purposes. Being fucked by uncle sicko since the age of 3, growing up in foster care, being ousted at the age of 18 then being put on the streets to support a drug habit (self medicating) as well as that of a, "Boyfriend's" (someone who the poor girl feels is someone who finally loves her, even though she hates herself) is a sad story, so show a little empathy please.
You're kidding, right?
I too feel sad for the girls working the low-track. Good luck finding one who isn't in the process of coming down and has a little weasel standing a half block away waiting for his drug ticket to cash in for him. Before you chastise these women for their drug habits, VERY few are using for recreational purposes. Being fucked by uncle sicko since the age of 3, growing up in foster care, being ousted at the age of 18 then being put on the streets to support a drug habit (self medicating) as well as that of a, "Boyfriend's" (someone who the poor girl feels is someone who finally loves her, even though she hates herself) is a sad story, so show a little empathy please.
No kidding,
You are a sweet heart
Harmony xoxox
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but because you pander to a man's carnal instincts and will pee on him for a fee...
you come across as sanctimonious and hypocritical ...
and certainly not the right spokesperson for the cause...
MissTakes, you made a "mistake" earlier in your life, as we all have...
of course when you see him now in a social gathering, it will be awkward...
best to avoid those situations in the future...
no one is saying that is a good situation...Lenny I'll admit that I am not always right... I promise that the next time I drive down Kingsway and see a car slow down in front of a half awake girl I'll quit being judgemental and understand that hes only stopping his car to feed, house and look after her
but because you pander to a man's carnal instincts and will pee on him for a fee...
you come across as sanctimonious and hypocritical
...and certainly not the right spokesperson for the cause...
MissTakes, you made a "mistake" earlier in your life, as we all have...
of course when you see him now in a social gathering, it will be awkward...
best to avoid those situations in the future...
You're kidding, right?
WTF, seriously?!? Shit, that's awful. I knew there was some underage prostitution going on in Vancouver (it would be horribly naive to think that there wasn't), but that's terrible. I guess I can add that to the list of the reasons why I only see independents and agency girls (no SW or AMP or micro girls for me).
We went to a barbeque at my Mom's house last night.
Phil is a guy that has lived in the neighbourhood for more years than anyone can remember. He's known me since I was a child and he knew about me first hand during the time I was working on the street. I wouldn't classify him as a regular but he did see me on numerous occasions during that period of my life. I would do him in his car and he would tell me what a good girl I was.
A question that came to mind. If you knew this guy since way back when, why did you do him in the first place ???
Hi Mistress T, I gather you gave it a trial run and decided against it, am I correct? I remember those days of exploration
Actually I don't find lenny's statement that suprising. I think the term kiddie stroll is mostly media sensationalization. During the 1990's and early 2000's I did a lot of cruising and I didn't see very many underage girls walking the strolls.You're kidding, right?
My guess is that majority of the underage prostitutes are kept indoors by their pimps so unless you are specifically looking for that most cruisers would rarely, if ever see them. If they were too conspicuous it wouldn't take too long for the cops to spot them, pick them up and ship them off to foster care.
Some 16 and 17 could pass themselves off as 19 or 20 I suppose but 7-14 year olds would be pretty easy to spot if they were out on the stroll. It wouldn't take long for them to attract police attention.
As a youth worker at the time that worked the kiddie stroll, I can assure you that it was not media sensationalism. Statements such as that, albeit it ignorant and uniformed, are harmful. If you don't know, it's better not to comment.
In the portion of the low track i used to frequent often for 3 years (03-
06) i never saw a hint of any underage SW girls, let alone 7-14 year old
children. It was, and probably still is, quite heavily populated with Native
peoples, but a large majority of the SWs were caucasian women.
This sounds reasonable. With growing internet and CL popularity the
media claims this is even more the case in recent years.
"Child prostitution in Vancouver has largely shifted from the streets to the Internet, Houghton said.
" "It's moved successfully inside for these kids, because it's a lot harder to police."
http://www2.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=c1e6d15c-21d9-4619-ada5-f954a0367129
I would just like to say for the record, lol.
I was getting into clubs at 15 yrs old. Women have this amazing ability to look way older or younger than we are. You put the right makeup and a street smart attitude on a 15 yr old girl, she could easily pass for 19, even older. By my 19th birthday, I was a regular at many clubs. My 19th birthday, all the bouncers and bar tenders were buying me shooters, because I was finally legal to be there, but I had already been there for years. I also had a stint with working kiddie stroll, nobody ever knew I was as young as I was.
Every single grey hair on my moms head has been earned.
Unless a girl shows you real id of her and not her older sister/aunt, you have no idea if she is under age or not.
I was getting into clubs at 15 yrs old. Women have this amazing ability to look way older or younger than we are. You put the right makeup and a street smart attitude on a 15 yr old girl, she could easily pass for 19, even older. By my 19th birthday, I was a regular at many clubs. My 19th birthday, all the bouncers and bar tenders were buying me shooters, because I was finally legal to be there, but I had already been there for years. I also had a stint with working kiddie stroll, nobody ever knew I was as young as I was.
Every single grey hair on my moms head has been earned.
Unless a girl shows you real id of her and not her older sister/aunt, you have no idea if she is under age or not.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2001/02/26/kidhooker010226.html
This story seems to contradict some of what you posted. If there are 7 year olds working the track why did the police say this 11 year old was the youngest prostitute they had ever found working the street? If it is as common as you imply why would hardened vice officers be so shocked by this incident?
I didn't say there were no children working the street, just that it was very rare for a regular cruiser to spot one so I could see why Lenny would say what he did. If 12, 13, 14 year olds working the tracks was so common it wouldn't shock the police to find an 11 year old out there.
The 1st SW I picked up was 28 and the age range I prefered was 25-35 so I never sought out young girls but I think I would have noticed a bunch of young girls if their presence was that common. Like I said the majority of the child prostitutes are probably hidden behind closed doors, if the pimps put them out on display in public it doesn't take long to attract police attention. Which is why a cruiser such as Lenny wouldn't see them and why I wasn't as suprised as you at what he said about the age range being 20-50.
Read the story you posted again so that you don't look so ignorant. She was picked up on the KIDDY STROLL! Do you figure that was the stroll where women dress like children?
Regardless of what clueless Drennan has to say, talk to youth workers in the dtes and ask what the youngest age they have seen in a working girl
Why don't you provide me with a link to one news story about someone younger being found on the track. I think the media would be all over a stories like that but I can't find any. Prove that you aren't just exaggerating and being ignorant. During my cruising days I saw a lot more 'clueless' cops talking to the girls than social workers. When I cruised that area everyone called it the Mid-track, I never heard it called the kiddie stroll until I googled that term.Read the story you posted again so that you don't look so ignorant. She was picked up on the KIDDY STROLL! Do you figure that was the stroll where women dress like children?
Once again in case you are ignorant I never said there aren't any young girls working the streets, just that it was rare to see them. The media takes the fact that a small percentage of the prostitutes working an area are underage and labels it the 'kiddie stroll' because it's sensationalism and sells the story.
You must not have been paying attention.
I don't "cruise" but I have lived in Surrey and New West, and worked downtown, and I have seen many girls that were obviously in their early/mid teens standing on the corners working.
Many of the pooners on these boards who partake in the street scene seem blind to the fact that the girls out there are often drug addicted and being forced into working. I guess the same is true for the fact that many are under age. They say ignorance is bliss... guess thats true as long as you're getting your cock sucked for $30.
