Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out

LightBearer

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Baffling with bullshit. And what are riffles? and do they come with dip?

It's RIFLES, not riffles....and about crying when someone insults you, how it's unfair in a debate? Coming from you that's just too funny. And don't change the subject.....
I'm not crying, I'm saying you guys cant argue so you have your gay little insults which dont disprove anything I say. Hence the definition ad hominem.
 

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I hate to make this personal, but you be the judge.

Is it only me who sees the similarities between Lightbears last few posts and the character of Captain Queeg in the book, then movie of "The Caine Mutiny". It was the strawberries, I knew that if I could only find the key to the icebox that had the strawberries..........................Now imagine Humphrey Bogart playing the role. Now you might understand......
 

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Here's a scenario - remember the shoe thrown at President Bush? Let's, for a moment, say it was weapon. Now, who's protecting the president? Secret service - who are highly trained and skilled agents who can, in no problem, kill someone to save the president. And YET, the shoe was still thrown. If these guys can't protect the president for that moment and allowed some weapon to be thrown at the President of the United States of America. How do u think ur able to reach for that gun, machine gun, uzi, or rifle to stop some "intruder" from killing you? In other words, a gun ban will not make it any more likely that u will be better able to protect yourself. A gun ban, however, will act as a deterrant or at least another "inconvenience" for those that do the killing. But if u truly obtain a gun for protection, good luck buddy - it's a false sense of security.

Did u know an assailant at 30' away weilding a knife can slice a cop before he unholsters his weapon. unless u got that finger on the trigger 24/7 pointed at ur bedroom door every night, ur chances of being able to use the gun when u NEED it are incredibly minute.
 

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Oh dear god, can a mod please lock this thread already?

We get it:

"Guns good, governments bad. Everybody's out to get us! Shoot everybody before they shoot us!"

"Constitutional rights and freedom to zzzzzzzzzz"

"Gun restrictions limit our need to protect ourselves (from people who have guns because of slack gun restriction laws)."
 

LightBearer

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Here's a scenario - remember the shoe thrown at President Bush? Let's, for a moment, say it was weapon. Now, who's protecting the president? Secret service - who are highly trained and skilled agents who can, in no problem, kill someone to save the president. And YET, the shoe was still thrown. If these guys can't protect the president for that moment and allowed some weapon to be thrown at the President of the United States of America. How do u think ur able to reach for that gun, machine gun, uzi, or rifle to stop some "intruder" from killing you? In other words, a gun ban will not make it any more likely that u will be better able to protect yourself. A gun ban, however, will act as a deterrant or at least another "inconvenience" for those that do the killing. But if u truly obtain a gun for protection, good luck buddy - it's a false sense of security.

Did u know an assailant at 30' away weilding a knife can slice a cop before he unholsters his weapon. unless u got that finger on the trigger 24/7 pointed at ur bedroom door every night, ur chances of being able to use the gun when u NEED it are incredibly minute.
Weakest arguement of all time. All time. Secret service not stopping a shoe thrown has anything to do with gun self defense? Was secret service supposed to just pump the guy full of lead? It was a shoe, when they pat you down for weapons do they ask to remove shoes incase you throw them?
gun bans = higher crime. I know you wont care about statistics since the real world dont matter just what you think works.

What kind of joke is that? "Duhh did you know a guy with a knife at 30 feet can slash a cop before he unholsters his weapon" LOL

ABC News. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyoLuTjguJA


Your telling me if your breaking into someones house and you hear the "pump" of a shotgun your going to keep going? Give me a break. Guns make a difference.
 

LightBearer

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Oh dear god, can a mod please lock this thread already?

We get it:

"Guns good, governments bad. Everybody's out to get us! Shoot everybody before they shoot us!"

"Constitutional rights and freedom to zzzzzzzzzz"

"Gun restrictions limit our need to protect ourselves (from people who have guns because of slack gun restriction laws)."
When did i say everybody is going to get us? Criminals and corrupt politicians arent EVERYBODY

If you dont have freedom then what do you have? Nothing, unless you like being a slave.
 

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Well that whole bill and list of firearms to be banned is pretty much written off as not going to happen.

The bigger issue I've heard is the US Department of Defence (military) is no longer selling fire brass to Ammunition re-manufacture's intact. Well they'll sell it to them but then they need to Shred it into useless scrap metal.

This will drive up the already high cost of ammunition. With governments wanting people and companies to go green it doesn't make sense, plus they'll be loosing money. And people will be loosing their jobs. Doesn't make sense of the economic situation they're in.
 

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Weakest arguement of all time. All time. Secret service not stopping a shoe thrown has anything to do with gun self defense? Was secret service supposed to just pump the guy full of lead? It was a shoe, when they pat you down for weapons do they ask to remove shoes incase you throw them?
gun bans = higher crime. I know you wont care about statistics since the real world dont matter just what you think works.

What kind of joke is that? "Duhh did you know a guy with a knife at 30 feet can slash a cop before he unholsters his weapon" LOL

ABC News. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyoLuTjguJA


Your telling me if your breaking into someones house and you hear the "pump" of a shotgun your going to keep going? Give me a break. Guns make a difference.
Again, this is based on American crime stats...not Canadian. LB, we live in Canada....you might live in the US, but here in Canada we don't have the gun violence or the history of gun violence that the US does. Not even in a per capita basis. The gang gun violence of recent is basically gang vs gang.

Did ya listen to the comments of viewers at the end of the segment? Probably not...
 

LightBearer

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Again, this is based on American crime stats...not Canadian. LB, we live in Canada....you might live in the US, but here in Canada we don't have the gun violence or the history of gun violence that the US does. Not even in a per capita basis. The gang gun violence of recent is basically gang vs gang.

Did ya listen to the comments of viewers at the end of the segment? Probably not...
Why do you keep posting in threads that you dont like or think are usless? Are you bored or just a losser?
 

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When did i say everybody is going to get us? Criminals and corrupt politicians arent EVERYBODY

If you dont have freedom then what do you have? Nothing, unless you like being a slave.
Why do you keep posting in threads that you dont like or think are usless? Are you bored or just a losser?
And Americans wonder why they are about as popular as herpes when they go abroad. :rolleyes:
 

LightBearer

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Seriously. There are certain guns that really only the military should have access to. A pre-teen got killed by an Uzi late last year because he was shooting it unattended at a gun show. The parent who took him and allowed him to shoot the gun unattended was not charged, but of course sued the people running the gun show :rolleyes:

I'm all for the right to bear arms in the US - I enjoy some time at the shooting range every now and again for fun - but some of those guns are completely unnecessary for non-military and non-police to have access to.
A pre-teen shouldnt be shooting an Uzi unattended, that's both the kid and the parents fault not the gun.
 

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With regards to the knife attacker at 30' - I recommend u try replicating this. This is based on studies that have been performed by law enforcement to stress the dangers of attackers. This is common practice in self defense classes.

My point is not the "shoe" itself. Which is why I wanted u to imagine that it was a weapon (rock, glass bottle, etc) for a moment. The point is that an attacker who is willing to do damage will most likely get the first shot off before u can react. Its like a sucker punch - there's no real defense against it. Simnilarly, if someone wants to shoot u, he probably will before u get ur hands on ur shotty.

In terms of intimidation, if someone wants to kill u, they wouldn't care what kind shotgun pumping sound is coming from ur room. And ur assuming ur awake at this time and keep ur shotty on u rather than a few feet away from u and not loaded.
 

LightBearer

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With regards to the knife attacker at 30' - I recommend u try replicating this. This is based on studies that have been performed by law enforcement to stress the dangers of attackers. This is common practice in self defense classes.

My point is not the "shoe" itself. Which is why I wanted u to imagine that it was a weapon (rock, glass bottle, etc) for a moment. The point is that an attacker who is willing to do damage will most likely get the first shot off before u can react. Its like a sucker punch - there's no real defense against it. Simnilarly, if someone wants to shoot u, he probably will before u get ur hands on ur shotty.

In terms of intimidation, if someone wants to kill u, they wouldn't care what kind shotgun pumping sound is coming from ur room. And ur assuming ur awake at this time and keep ur shotty on u rather than a few feet away from u and not loaded.
Yea so if the neighbours hear anything they can come help with there useless firearms. With locked doors and wiondows unless its a ninja they are going to make noise. If that shoe guy pulled a gun he would have got a few shots off before security shot him. Cant prevent car accidents 100% so do we stop driving? As for the 30 feet with the knife. Let the videos explain :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYdkt7yIFLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vl9FniemlE&feature=related
 

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I think it is important to realize that whether you agree with the US constitution or not, it IS the strongest legal document in the US and the government isn't free to just ignore it.

If Obama feels so strongly that the 2nd amendment isn't valid anymore, why isn't he campaigning to get rid of it?

There's no way in hell he'd have the balls to even SAY that, much less try it.
 
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