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jim

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I'm not referring to 4 girls but those motorized vehicles also known as ATVs.
ATVs originally were used in farming, forestry, natural resource exploration, law enforcement and peacekeeping. Over the last 10 or so years their sales have exploded as they have become 'toys'.

A truck pulled up alongside me at the lights today which made me think to post this. I looked at it and thought what a total waste of resources, money and lives these things are. What possible value are these things unless used as a tool and not a toy? For the life of me I can't think of a valid reason to own one. I was thinking of possible two reasons:

Want to see nature. - Well the noise these things make will scare off any wildlife, if you want to see nature go for a hike.

Get where a car can't go. - Walk in or use a Mountain Bike

Am I alone in this thinking?
 

HB40

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I bought my first one last year. I have only used it as a tool. I can check remote locations with it, I always did walk in but I don't hunt or carry a gun so I appreciate it might scare off the wildlife. I also use it on the ranch clearing snow, hauling bales, dragging out deadfall, it really is invaluable and much more convenient than the tractor. I guess I do use it for recreation a bit but mostly to get to my lake to do some fishing.

But I don't think it will ever be a toy, if I want something to play with....well thats what the 4 girls are for. ;)
 

jim

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I bought my first one last year. I have only used it as a tool. I can check remote locations with it, I always did walk in but I don't hunt or carry a gun so I appreciate it might scare off the wildlife. I also use it on the ranch clearing snow, hauling bales, dragging out deadfall, it really is invaluable and much more convenient than the tractor. I guess I do use it for recreation a bit but mostly to get to my lake to do some fishing.

But I don't think it will ever be a toy, if I want something to play with....well thats what the 4 girls are for. ;)
You my friend are using it as it was intended to be used. :D

Looking forward to your Quad review :cool:
 

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I'm not referring to 4 girls but those motorized vehicles also known as ATVs.
ATVs originally were used in farming, forestry, natural resource exploration, law enforcement and peacekeeping. Over the last 10 or so years their sales have exploded as they have become 'toys'.

A truck pulled up alongside me at the lights today which made me think to post this. I looked at it and thought what a total waste of resources, money and lives these things are. What possible value are these things unless used as a tool and not a toy? For the life of me I can't think of a valid reason to own one. I was thinking of possible two reasons:

Want to see nature. - Well the noise these things make will scare off any wildlife, if you want to see nature go for a hike.

Get where a car can't go. - Walk in or use a Mountain Bike

Am I alone in this thinking?
You dissin one of my hobbies? I have a 660cc 05 Raptor. You cant power-slide up a logging road at 90mph on a fucking mountain bike.

It is a workout for me too. I feel nice and sore the next day after a good hard ride.
 

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yup you are alone... well im just not on board with ya.... i have skidoos and quads... i love em....

hey jim, how far can you really get through the forest with a walker:rolleyes:
 

jim

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You dissin one of my hobbies? I have a 660cc 05 Raptor. You cant power-slide up a logging road at 90mph on a fucking mountain bike.

It is a workout for me too. I feel nice and sore the next day after a good hard ride.
A workout??? ROTFLMAO!!!

Sore from what? Seeing how far you can toss your empty beer cans into the bush??
 

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I just spent 4 hours plowing mine and my neighbors driveway with my beater Honda. Seems like a pretty useful toy to me.

I love my quads, sled, the race car, boat, and 4x4. I do have a mountain bike and ride it, but this isn't fumble fucking around Grouse Mountain, pretending to be some kind of mountain man with a can of pepper spray in your pocket. The bike is for a backyard workout. I can put on 100-300km on in a weekend and see examples of most of the wildlife that live in Canada on the quad.
 

wess

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A workout??? ROTFLMAO!!!

Sore from what? Seeing how far you can toss your empty beer cans into the bush??
Its a sport quad, not a grampa quad.

Look at an F1 drivers neck and tell me they are not real athelets
 

jim

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Its a sport quad, not a grampa quad.

Look at an F1 drivers neck and tell me they are not real athelets
F1 Drivers are definitely athletes. (Not sure what athelets are :rolleyes: ) However these athletes are not ripping up the forest, grasslands and mountainsides pursuing their endeavors.

Comparing your joyriding to an F1 driver is like saying that because you break a sweat playing Wii tennis that you are working like one of the Australian Open Men's finalists.
 

jim

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No they aren't!!! Not by a freaking long shot :p
I'm sure you think the dudes sucking back a beer and shooting a lights out game of darts is one too :p
I beg to differ.

Racing is only for supremely fit

MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX

LOTS of smoking, lots of drinking and lots of sex.

That was how Germany's Keke Rosberg, the 1982 Formula One world champion, had described his off-season training for races.

But ask Ferrari's reigning F1 world champion Kimi Raikkonen about his regime, and it would resemble that of an Olympic athlete. Lots of cardio, lots of gym and lots of weights.

Up to five hours a day, every day in the off-season, starting in November, to improve stamina and strength in his 1.75m, 62kg frame.

These days, the typical F1 driver weighs between 60 and 70 kg for his 1.7m to 1.8m frame, boasts a body-fat percentage of around 7 per cent and has a resting heart rate of 40-odd beats per minute.

That is much lower than the average man, who has a body-fat percentage of 15 to 20 per cent and a resting heart-rate of 70.

After all, anything less than supreme fitness, and an F1 driver would struggle to cope with the severe stresses of each race - especially so at today's Malaysian Grand Prix, one of the most gruelling races on the circuit because of the heat and humidity.

At the Sepang International Circuit, temperatures can go up to 70 deg C in the F1 car's cockpit and up to 60 deg C under the driver's helmet and racing overalls. Drivers can lose up to 31/2 litres of body fluid and about 4 per cent of their body weight.

Even without Sepang's heat and humidity - up to 40 deg C and 95 per cent respectively - drivers already have to contend with the normal physical exertions of a race.

Their bodies are subjected to forces of up to 4G under braking - or four times their body weight - and up to 5.5G through some corners.

The driver's head alone, which weighs about 6kg with the helmet on, has to sustain loadings of 24kg repeatedly.

All this, while travelling at speeds in excess of 300kmh trying to outwit and outspeed 21 other similar souls.

"Without stamina, the driver is less flexible and loses valuable tenths of seconds," said Josef Leberer, fitness trainer of former world champions like Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher.

McLaren's Lewis Hamilton, last year's runner-up, did five to 10 intense training sessions each week in preparation for this season.

The 1.74m, 64kg Briton did up to three hours of cardio work - running, cycling, swimming, hiking, snowshoeing and skiing - and gym workouts focused on improving neck and abdominal muscles.

A typical day begins with a morning run, followed by breakfast, then gym or swimming or playing a sport. Lunch is followed by more cardio, like a long bike ride, then back to the gym for another hour or two.

Tapio Korjus, manager of Finland's Kuortane Sports Institute where Hamilton trained in the off-season, told The Times that "a precise, scientific approach" in motor sport was "a relatively new development" that began in the past 10 to 15 years.

"In that period, the physical performance of F1 drivers has increased - and Lewis has set a new benchmark," said the Austrian.

This F1 season will probably be more physically demanding on the drivers than ever, after the sport's ruling body, the FIA, did away with some computerised driver aids. Among them is traction control, which prevents wheelspin and reduces the importance of driver skill.

Training is much less intense during the packed 18-race season.

Drivers work with their personal trainers for three or four days during a two-week period between races, focusing on maintaining fitness and recovering from the previous race.

"If you're going through a race and your body starts struggling, then it starts taking away energy from your mind. It's crucial that you go through the race with ease physically, which gives you 100 per cent mental concentration," Hamilton said in a Johnnie Walker F1 video.

But, for all the fitness in the world, ultimately it is still what you do behind the wheel that counts. As 1978 world champion and American racing legend Mario Andretti had said: "There's only one way to get truly fit to drive an F1 car - and that's to drive one."

This article was first published in The Sunday times on Mar 23, 2008.
 

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A truck pulled up alongside me at the lights today which made me think to post this. I looked at it and thought what a total waste of resources, money and lives these things are. What possible value are these things unless used as a tool and not a toy? For the life of me I can't think of a valid reason to own one.

Jim,

All I can say is that you've clearly never spent a week hunting moose, and finally bagged one about 5 miles from your truck. I have, and being able to hike back to the truck, get the quad, and retrieve the animal inside of a day sure made things easier than they would have been otherwise :p

I completely agree with you though, that these things aren't of much use if you actually want to see & enjoy nature. Mine is just a tool -- I don't use it while actually hunting. It's just a mechanized pack horse to get to/from camp, and to assist in game recovery when it's really needed.

Just my 2 cents.
 

jim

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Jim,

All I can say is that you've clearly never spent a week hunting moose, and finally bagged one about 5 miles from your truck. I have, and being able to hike back to the truck, get the quad, and retrieve the animal inside of a day sure made things easier than they would have been otherwise :p

I completely agree with you though, that these things aren't of much use if you actually want to see & enjoy nature. Mine is just a tool -- I don't use it while actually hunting. It's just a mechanized pack horse to get to/from camp, and to assist in game recovery when it's really needed.

Just my 2 cents.
I've never gone hunting nor do I ever want to. I clearly stated that I agree that they are valuable as tools. Frankly while I am not a hunter I wouldn't lump your use into the wasteful type of use. It is nothing like the uses proposed by those who claim it is a good 'work out'. To you it is a tool and good on you.
 
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