Who will be nominated?

[sdw]

The media would have us believe that Americans want more of the same. The media says that the defining issue will be the war in Iraq.

If that was true, the Democrats would nominate Hillary Clinton for President and Joe Biden for Vice - President. (Hillary won't accept Barack Obama)

The Republicans would nominate John McCain for President and Ron Paul for Vice - President.

I don't believe that Americans want more of the same. I think that we are going to be surprised in the caucuses and primaries. I think the conventions are going to shock the socks off the establishment.

I think that the Democrats are going to nominate Barack Obama for President and Bill Richardson for Vice - President. I think that the Republicans are going to nominate Mitt Romney for President and Duncan Hunter for Vice - President.

I think Hillary Clinton is out because she voted for the war.

I think Joe Biden is out because people see him as having no love for the troops that have been forced to serve in Iraq.

I think that Rudy Giuliani is out because of 911 which is being closely examined where it becoming apparent that his decisions contributed to the extent of the disaster and his desire to ride the fence on issues near and dear to the Republican heart.

I think that John McCain is out because people really don't want a third Bush in the White House. McCain is on the wrong side on the Iraq War, the wrong side on Homeland Security and the wrong side on International Affairs.


What do you think?

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Al Gore doesn`t have to jump in until the last minute.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=66982

Gore`s been playing it real coy while doing everything humanly possible to set his campaign table...from his Nobel Peace Prize nomination and Oscar award to his many engaging TV appearances and fiery anti-Bush political speeches. Factor in his four terms in the House, two in the Senate, eight as VP, his Vietnam service and his positions on the Iraq war and global warming--both of which resonate highly with the majority of voters right now--and he clearly becomes the Democrats` most electable choice for president. And he knows it.

Given the colossal foreign and domestic policy failures of the Bushevik Monarchy, this is the opportunity of a lifetime for Gore to capture the big prize. He`s already gone through the vetting process in 2000 and he`s skeleton-free. He`s the only Democrat who can enter the race at virtually the last minute, with massive funds behind him, and shoot right to the head of the pack. And let`s not forget the most important thing from 2000: he`s already won the popular vote once before, and, as many believe, the election. Mark my words, Al Gore will not only run, but he will be re-elected.

http://www.ostroyreport.blogspot.com/

http://www.draftgore.com/

 

[sdw]

Al Gore doesn`t have to jump in until the last minute.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=66982

Given the colossal foreign and domestic policy failures of the Bushevik Monarchy, this is the opportunity of a lifetime for Gore to capture the big prize. He`s already gone through the vetting process in 2000 and he`s skeleton-free. He`s the only Democrat who can enter the race at virtually the last minute, with massive funds behind him, and shoot right to the head of the pack. And let`s not forget the most important thing from 2000: he`s already won the popular vote once before, and, as many believe, the election. Mark my words, Al Gore will not only run, but he will be re-elected.

http://www.ostroyreport.blogspot.com/

http://www.draftgore.com/

Randy, Gore won`t be running against Hillary. Really.

Al Gore will be joining Hillary on the campaign trail, speaking for her candidacy and helping with her fund raising.

 

[LittleAsianGuy]

They shoulda voted in Gore years ago

 

[sdw]

The poll is multiple choice

I'm not asking which party will win because that depends on who is nominated for each party.

Vote for a Republican and a Democrat.

 

[ThighMan]

swd - While I know a number of the cadidates and which party they represent, I do not know all of them. I am sure there are others in the same position. It would help if you listed the party that each candidate is with. IMHO

 

[ThighMan]

Al Gore doesn't have to jump in until the last minute.

And let's not forget the most important thing from 2000: he's already won the popular vote once before, and, as many believe, the election. Mark my words, Al Gore will not only run, but he will be re-elected.

RW - A question and a comment.

First, not being 100% familiar with the American system, do you know what the deadline is for declaring oneself as a candidate?

Second, it is impossible for Al Gore to get re-elected since he is not the President. One can only be re-elected if one currently or previously held that position. He could be elected if he runs for President but he cannot be re-elected.

 

[ThighMan]

They shoulda voted in Gore years ago

And let's not forget the most important thing from 2000: he's already won the popular vote once before, and, as many believe, the election.

LAG - They US people did, however, since the US does not elect their president by popular vote he lost to GW Bush.

It is interesting that is, despite all of their championing for one-person one-vote through-out the world, the US are probably the only western style demoracty in the world with an elected president that is not directly elected by the people.

 

[citylover]

RW - A question and a comment.

First, not being 100% familiar with the American system, do you know what the deadline is for declaring oneself as a candidate?

Second, it is impossible for Al Gore to get re-elected since he is not the President. One can only be re-elected if one currently or previously held that position. He could be elected if he runs for President but he cannot be re-elected.

Please, don't try to talk facts to the villij idjit -- his years in psychoanalysis have taught him that it doesn't matter if someone puts together a fundraising team, organizes a campaign committee, collects signatures to get on the ballot, goes to the primary states, engages in debates -- to get nominated.

The important thing in prezidential elections for v.i. are simply the voices in his head that tell him what is so. & the green helicopters flying overhead trying to take over the World for Socialism!!

Are you one of those voices?

If not, it is a waste of baudwidth to v.i.

 

[sdw]

swd - While I know a number of the cadidates and which party they represent, I do not know all of them. I am sure there are others in the same position. It would help if you listed the party that each candidate is with. IMHO

The Top 5 are Democrats
The Bottom 5 are Republicans

I'd be voting for Barack Obama

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Randy, Gore won't be running against Hillary. Really.

Al Gore will be joining Hillary on the campaign trail, speaking for her candidacy and helping with her fund raising.

What's in that for him?

If Al ran, he would open with a pair of aces. To Democrats, Gore was right on the war when almost everyone else was wrong, which gives him the inside track to the antiwar vote that will be as crucial in the Democratic primaries of 2008 as it was in 1968 and 1972.

Both of the other major antiwar candidates, John Kerry and John Edwards, voted for the war -- before they voted against it. Gore opposed it from the outset. And his endorsement of Howard Dean, much ridiculed when Dean disintegrated weeks later, looks less like a political gaffe now than an act of principle.

They shoulda voted in Gore years ago

Over half of the country did.

Hillary is too programmed. She has made all the right moves in the Senate to erase her image as a militant feminist, but lacks the platform skills of Bill and cannot bring to a debate the passion of Gore, who appears to believe deeply in what he preaches on both the war and global warming.

Her position as front-runner makes her the natural target for the other candidates, while her loss of 11 points and slippage to 32 percent makes her vulnerable. In a head-to-head race, Gore runs stronger than Hillary against McCain. He is down 6, she is down 7. And while Gore has been damaged by defeats and some of his shrill speeches, he does not carry as much scar tissue as Hillary.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PatrickJBuchanan/2006/09/12/clinton_vs_gore

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Clinton for the Dems.

She's got the money and the backing. I really don't think whether you supported the war in Iraq will hurt any of the candidates. Regardless of the outcome, the Americans are stuck there for the at least next 5 years. So it will be whoever has the best exit strategy / damage control plan.

I'd love to see Obama win though. Hopefully the Oprah nation will push him over the top.

As for the Reps, who cares. I'd love to-see them get stuck with the Iraq problem for another 8 years. GB has already done enough damage that the country will be stuck in the right regardless.

Anti-Abortion laws
No Stem Cell Research
Alienation
Corporate Rule
Economic Chaos
Anti-Environment

GB and the right are batting a thousand.

I'd like to see John McCain as president, but his lackluster record and heel to the right cronies have dimmed my enthusiasm.

Colin Powell would be great as well, but he won't come back after the screwing over he received by the GB and his cronies.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

RW - A question and a comment.

First, not being 100% familiar with the American system, do you know what the deadline is for declaring oneself as a candidate?

Second, it is impossible for Al Gore to get re-elected since he is not the President.

He actually won the popular vote in 2000. He was elected president for a very brief period - say a few hours. At least that's what the news reports said. BTW - I'm sure everyone here knows he is not the president.

One can only be re-elected if one currently or previously held that position. He could be elected if he runs for President but he cannot be re-elected.

On election night, the news media twice declared a winner in the state of Florida prematurely based on exit polls, before deciding the race was too close to call. It became clear that both candidates needed Florida's electoral votes to win the presidency. A month of controversial court challenges and recounts followed, until the Supreme Court of the United States in Bush v. Gore agreed 7-2 there were Equal Protection issues in using different standards of counting ballots in different counties. It then halted further recounts by voting 5-4 to ban further recounts using alternate procedures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2000

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Clinton for the Dems.

She's got the money and the backing. I really don't think whether you supported the war in Iraq will hurt any of the candidates. Regardless of the outcome, the Americans are stuck there for the at least next 5 years. So it will be whoever has the best exit strategy / damage control plan.

I'd love to see Obama win though. Hopefully the Oprah nation will push him over the top.

As for the Reps, who cares. I'd love to-see them get stuck with the Iraq problem for another 8 years. GB has already done enough damage that the country will be stuck in the right regardless.

Anti-Abortion laws
No Stem Cell Research
Alienation
Corporate Rule
Economic Chaos
Anti-Environment

GB and the right are battling a thousand.

I'd like to see John McCain as president, but his lackluster record and heel to the right cronies have dimmed my enthusiasm.

Colin Powell would be great as well, but he won't come back after the screwing over he received by the GB and his cronies.

Post script. Until the Americans reform the Electorial system its all a moot point. Al Gores "Loss" was a clear indicator of the system flaws.

Jeb Bush in 2012!

 

[sephiroth]

I don't think it matters what party you vote for. Both of them are pretty sucky. I think the USA is more driven by who the individual is rather than the party. Canada is a more party driven country. In Canadian elections I usually vote for my favourite party, usually not knowing who the local candidate even is.

The only person's name I have heard from that list is Hilary clinton, but the Americans will never be open minded enough to elect a female president.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Gore still has lots of time...

Democratic primaries and caucuses

January 14 2008 - Iowa
January 19 2008 - Nevada
January 22 2008 - New Hampshire
January 29 2008 - South Carolina
February 5 2008 - Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas[3], Delaware, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma,Utah
February 10 2008 - Maine
February 12 2008 - District of Columbia, Tennessee, Virginia
February 19 2008 - Wisconsin
February 26 2008 - Hawaii, Idaho
March 2008 (date to be determined) - American Samoa, Democrats Abroad, Guam, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, Virgin Islands, Wyoming
March 4 2008 - Connecticut, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont
March 7 2008 - Colorado
March 8 2008 - Kansas
March 11 2008 - Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi
March 18 2008 - Illinois, Oregon
April 2008 (date to be determined) - Alaska
April 1 2008 - Pennsylvania
May 6 2008 - Indiana
May 13 2008 - Nebraska, West Virginia
May 20 2008 - Kentucky
May 27 2008 - Washington
June 3 2008 - Montana, South Dakota, California[4]

http://www.answers.com/topic/united-states-presidential-election-2008