Taylor from EB is Amy on EC

[TrailBlazer]

there's a serious safety risk to going "independant".

I don't know who Amy is, but I will say $200 for an hour with her is absurdity.

she needs to get off drugs-get a life-and get the hell out of the business!

it saddens me when I see a 20 yr old girl wasting her life like this.

 

[SexyBoy]

there's a serious safety risk to going "independant".

I don't know who Amy is, but I will say $200 for an hour with her is absurdity.

she needs to get off drugs-get a life-and get the hell out of the business!

it saddens me when I see a 20 yr old girl wasting her life like this.

She isn't on any drugs only what every kid is on with say ADD etc. I don't want to tell her life story anymore then I have too. However you guys are taking this drug thing a little too far.

Everyone has had problems and almost everyone has smoked pot once or twice in their life. This girl has not done anything worse then that.

I don't know very many SP's that haven't done something at one time or another. If you think they haven't your are delusional.

 

[TrailBlazer]

She isn't on any drugs only what every kid is on with say ADD etc. I don't want to tell her life story anymore then I have too. However you guys are taking this drug thing a little too far.

Everyone has had problems and almost everyone has smoked pot once or twice in their life. This girl has not done anything worse then that.

I don't know very many SP's that haven't done something at one time or another. If you think they haven't your are delusional.

SB,

you should not encourage her to go "independant". It is extremely dangerous-she has no idea if the next Jack the Ripper is coming to see her.

she would be better off at a MP-but really she would be better off getting right out of the business-most girls don't involve themselves in it.

She probably has no education (is she even a high school grad?) but there are lots of jobs in Wpg (call centres etc) and while they don't pay that great it's a better alternative.

Canada has lots of social programs as well she should explore. Those are much better alternatives than suggesting she go "independant."

I'm amazed that some here would pay $200 per hour-what seems like not even an hour-to this girl or any of these girls. You can get sex for free, but even if you go on the Chatlines you will find girls $40-$50 F/S.

 

[Mchatte]

She really likes men well endowed and doesn't care about looks.

Well, I think I meet one of her criteria. The other would be stretching it a bit.

M

 

[SexyBoy]

Just go to your local GNC store get some of those enlarger pills that really work and you are good to go.

I was just saying what she really gets into from her words not mine.

The previous posts were my words guess I was wrong on the looks part. She really could care less what a guy looks like.

 

[rubintugger]

Wow,

I am amazed at the "advice" these posters are giving. "Get out of the business", "Wasting her life", "social programs"...

Jeesh, this is a forum dedicated to the persuit of extra curricular activities for pay. Period. The ladies we frequent are, for the most part, professionals that give good value for service, and the ones we avoid are those that do not. And this forum is to exchange information to find the first and avoid the second.

As to the discussion about safety in the pimp / mp / independent varieties of this business, I've noticed that before this thread, the majority of advice was to go independent, giving the lady full control of her career. Sure, there is a risk involved, but there is risk in walking across the street.

If this young lady is serious about the business, and it sounds like she enjoys the actual work part of it, then she should look to some of the established ladies, and work the way they do. Safety can be found by having a partner, sharing an apartment can save money and add security. It can also help your marketing, and broaden your knowledge and experience. The Kerry/Mandy partnership, even without the apparently mind blowing double team, is a great model for the business.

Most of the independent ladies do a great business, safely. I've only ever heard of one lady being attacked, and it was an avoidable incident that should never have happened. But the "safe" mp's, well, remember the hostage taking incedent that basically ended 205 Alexander? And how does having a pimp protect you? Does he accompany you into the room and guard while you work? Or does he just wait outside to take the moeny? If something were to happen in the room, how would he know and what would he do? A simple call to a friend after arriving, or the arrival at your apartment of your client to confirm everything is OK is a lot safer. And if a "date" sounds like it wouldn't be something you would be comfortable with, take a pass. And make sure your door has a security veiwing device and a good lock. And remember "No means No". 9 times out of 10, a "john" is far more afraid of the cops that the lady...

Clean up, take control, don't let anyone push you around or pressure you into doing things you don't want, be strong and confident, and things will go very well. This is a lucrative and enjoyable business if done right.

Rubin

 

[jtreydogg]

Brittney is NOT 27 - Nope, nada... YOu have that WRONG.

 

[Vroomfondel]

Agreed

Rubin,

Excellent post. Agreed 100%.

VF

 

[TrailBlazer]

I would never recommend someone become a prostitute.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Wow,

I am amazed at the "advice" these posters are giving. "Get out of the business", "Wasting her life", "social programs"...

Jeesh, this is a forum dedicated to the persuit of extra curricular activities for pay. Period. The ladies we frequent are, for the most part, professionals that give good value for service, and the ones we avoid are those that do not. And this forum is to exchange information to find the first and avoid the second.

As to the discussion about safety in the pimp / mp / independent varieties of this business, I've noticed that before this thread, the majority of advice was to go independent, giving the lady full control of her career. Sure, there is a risk involved, but there is risk in walking across the street.

If this young lady is serious about the business, and it sounds like she enjoys the actual work part of it, then she should look to some of the established ladies, and work the way they do. Safety can be found by having a partner, sharing an apartment can save money and add security. It can also help your marketing, and broaden your knowledge and experience. The Kerry/Mandy partnership, even without the apparently mind blowing double team, is a great model for the business.

Most of the independent ladies do a great business, safely. I've only ever heard of one lady being attacked, and it was an avoidable incident that should never have happened. But the "safe" mp's, well, remember the hostage taking incedent that basically ended 205 Alexander? And how does having a pimp protect you? Does he accompany you into the room and guard while you work? Or does he just wait outside to take the moeny? If something were to happen in the room, how would he know and what would he do? A simple call to a friend after arriving, or the arrival at your apartment of your client to confirm everything is OK is a lot safer. And if a "date" sounds like it wouldn't be something you would be comfortable with, take a pass. And make sure your door has a security veiwing device and a good lock. And remember "No means No". 9 times out of 10, a "john" is far more afraid of the cops that the lady...

Clean up, take control, don't let anyone push you around or pressure you into doing things you don't want, be strong and confident, and things will go very well. This is a lucrative and enjoyable business if done right.

Rubin

I wonder how you know...

I'll admit the odds are a girl will not encounter what I suggested-but the facts are it is out there.

The Pickton trial in Vancouver-the Green River Killer-to name but two.

I don't know how any thinking person can seriously recommend someone to become a prostitute.

 

[rubintugger]

I wonder how you know...

I'll admit the odds are a girl will not encounter what I suggested-but the facts are it is out there.

The Pickton trial in Vancouver-the Green River Killer-to name but two.

I don't know how any thinking person can seriously recommend someone to become a prostitute.

How can any thinking person recommend trash collection as a carreer? Or plumbing... dentistry... rodeo clown...

There are many thankless and dangerous jobs out there. But very few that a person can do something they truly love, at home, part time, and still take home 50k per year ($200 per session, 5 sessions a week, = $50k+ take home. One hour a day, 5 days a week. Wow.)

So, prostitutes are the only people serial killers target? I don't think so. And the ones you mention targeted streetwalkers, not upscale incall ladies.

The odds of getting attacked when getting picked up in a bar are far higher than a working lady in her own, secure environment. If a lady enjoy's sex, why not make a great living at it? I'd never advocate a woman becoming a streetwalker, or getting into the worlds oldest profession is she didn't actually love having sex... but if you have a talent for math, you become a programmer or engineer, if you have atheletic talent, you become a pro athlete, if you're an acrobatic nympho, why not make money with it? And we pooners get the benefit....

The whole hooker/pimp scenario is such a bad scene, there's nothing worse than that, it leads to abuse and desperation. But there are many successful ladies, both here and abroad, in the business. No reason they can't have freedom 45... not with that huge tax free income capability...

Hey, if I could do it, I would...

Rubin

 

[Terrell]

Even though we have fallen way off track with this thread, the posts for the most part have been excellent. However I believe there's only a small number of sp's that love there job. They may love the money, or the freedom to work the hours they choose. But do they love having sex with hundreds of different men?

Freedom 45 would be an excellent plan. Again this mite apply to only a small number of sp's.When you consider the lack of a medical or dental plan, and no pension plan, is it really better then being a plumber? Lets not forget the second living space, travel and expenses.

The bottom line: Is Amy cut out to be an Indy sp? We all know that working at a MP is a totally different world, then the life of an indy sp.

 

[rubintugger]

Even though we have fallen way off track with this thread, the posts for the most part have been excellent. However I believe there's only a small number of sp's that love there job. They may love the money, or the freedom to work the hours they choose. But do they love having sex with hundreds of different men?

Freedom 45 would be an excellent plan. Again this mite apply to only a small number of sp's.When you consider the lack of a medical or dental plan, and no pension plan, is it really better then being a plumber? Lets not forget the second living space, travel and expenses.

The bottom line: Is Amy cut out to be an Indy sp? We all know that working at a MP is a totally different world, then the life of an indy sp.

There are quite a number of ladies that love this job. Look at EC, look at their websites, there are women that truly love pleasing a man, and it is reflected in thier service and their attitude.

On the other hand, there are women that do this job because they have nothing else, or they love the money, or for many other reasons. And it shows in their service and attitude. And there are guys who are looking for low self esteem women to use and/or degrade. This is an unfortunate part of the business.

Myself, I wouldn't enjoy myself with a woman that wasn't truly into what she was doing. And doing it in a safe way. There is a reason there are Heidi Fleis's out there, and Bunny Ranch's. If a lady truly loves to please a man, there are safe, secure ways for her to provide men looking for that kind of entertainment in exchange for an inordinate amount of money.

Medical/dental/RRSP plans are all available through private providers, Blue Cross, etc, and with the income potential in this business, there's no reason a lady couldn't have as much coverage as any other working stiff, if not more. But all these things require some planning and forethought.

But if she picks a pissant pimp to line up her action, she's going to end up unhappy...

Rubin

 

[TrailBlazer]

There are quite a number of ladies that love this job. Look at EC, look at their websites, there are women that truly love pleasing a man, and it is reflected in thier service and their attitude.

On the other hand, there are women that do this job because they have nothing else, or they love the money, or for many other reasons. And it shows in their service and attitude. And there are guys who are looking for low self esteem women to use and/or degrade. This is an unfortunate part of the business.

Myself, I wouldn't enjoy myself with a woman that wasn't truly into what she was doing. And doing it in a safe way. There is a reason there are Heidi Fleis's out there, and Bunny Ranch's. If a lady truly loves to please a man, there are safe, secure ways for her to provide men looking for that kind of entertainment in exchange for an inordinate amount of money.

Medical/dental/RRSP plans are all available through private providers, Blue Cross, etc, and with the income potential in this business, there's no reason a lady couldn't have as much coverage as any other working stiff, if not more. But all these things require some planning and forethought.

But if she picks a pissant pimp to line up her action, she's going to end up unhappy...

Rubin

I wonder how you know? are you a SP?

I doubt very much the girls "love their jobs"-would any girl like having sex with just anyone?

I love sex myself, but if I extended it to any female-the only criteria is if you paid me-no regard to how you looked/or how you were-I know I wouldn't enjoy it.

yes...it's dangerous because one just doesn't know who's coming over. I already stated the odds are one wouldn't be harmed but the risk is there just the same. If you think different, I wonder what rock you've been living under.

here's an example:

http://www.walnet.org/csis/news/toronto_94/torstar-940420.html

another one:

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=News&id=2434389

you think it's a "benefit" paying, or should I say overpaying a girls $200 to have sex with her????

absolutely ridiculous

I'll stand by what I said, "Amy" probably doesn't have an education-I doubt she has a Grade 12. She needs to improve herself-and that's the only serious advice she should be given.

 

[Sixpak]

Rubin an SP? No way!!!
SPs love him though!!

I guess it is common to see some view a post totally opposite than others do!
Do we interpret what we read by our own pre-conceived notions? Are we often reading between lines?

 

[rubintugger]

I wonder how you know? are you a SP?

I doubt very much the girls "love their jobs"-would any girl like having sex with just anyone?

I love sex myself, but if I extended it to any female-the only criteria is if you paid me-no regard to how you looked/or how you were-I know I wouldn't enjoy it.

yes...it's dangerous because one just doesn't know who's coming over. I already stated the odds are one wouldn't be harmed but the risk is there just the same. If you think different, I wonder what rock you've been living under.

here's an example:

http://www.walnet.org/csis/news/toronto_94/torstar-940420.html

another one:

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=News&id=2434389

you think it's a "benefit" paying, or should I say overpaying a girls $200 to have sex with her????

absolutely ridiculous

I'll stand by what I said, "Amy" probably doesn't have an education-I doubt she has a Grade 12. She needs to improve herself-and that's the only serious advice she should be given.

Wow, for a member of this board, which presumably means you use the services of a coutesan on occasion, you certainly have a very low regard for both the ladies that work the trade, and the men who use their services.

How many women work their way through college? I can't count the number that have worked in this business a while, building up a war-chest to go back to school, and then retired. Some work while they are going to school. Either way, it is a good way to get that higher education you think they need.

How many links do I have to post to refute your "dangerous trade" idea? Read any paper and look at home invasions, people getting shot in convenience store robberies, date rapes, and the like. We live in a dangerous world. And if you play it unsafe, then yes, you're leaving yourself open to attack. But there are sooo many ways to protect yourself. Common sense more than anything else, barring that, a standard operating procedure for first meetings, and you can make things very safe.

As to "overpaying" an SP $200 for an encounter, I'm sorry. $200 spent with almost any SP gives a lot more pleasure and satisfaction than twice as much with a lawyer or dentist <grin>. If you don't have that money to burn, you wouldn't be playing. $300, $400, $500... I'm sure that many of the quality ladies have clients that wouldn't hesitate to pay that. I think the $200-$250 that most of the ladies here charge is a bargain...

YMMV is a term not used often enough in this business. Yes, they are in a business where they may be asked to have sex with someone they do not find attractive, but they always have the option of begging out... and one's they do find attractive, well, there are many ways to encourage them to call again.

Just a thought... you might find more enjoyment in this industry if you give the ladies more respect and credit... or maybe not. Some men can't handle a sexually confident, intelligent, independent woman...

Rubin

 

[SexyBoy]

Brittney is NOT 27 - Nope, nada... YOu have that WRONG.

How are you so sure?

 

[rubintugger]

I doubt very much the girls "love their jobs"-would any girl like having sex with just anyone?

On another note, how many people "love thier jobs". Far fewer that there should be, that's for sure.

Most do a job just for the money, and then go home and complain about the hours they have to work, the working conditions, the co-workers, the crappy work they have to do, and most of all, thier idiot boss.

Give someone a chance to do something they enjoy, during the hours they want to work, at $200/hr less expenses, they'd do it in a heartbeat. So what's wrong with a lady enjoying her work in this business?

If she's just going through the motions, no one is going to be happy with the session, and she'll find it difficult to make a living. But, give good service, and she'll have the difficult position of having too much cash, and how to legitimize it...

Rubin

 

[wonderfulbiwmn]

joy of the job

i love my job...and as the saying goes...if you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life - confucious

 

[Sixpak]

i love my job...and as the saying goes...if you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life - confucious

It is obvious that you love your job by your comments - great attitude! and you seem to be very open.
But how many of the ladies are really in the biz cuz it is good money, does not require going for training or schooling, and can be very flexible, - not because they enjoy it so much. Some don't have the personality to make clients feel at ease, or don't know how to handle people. Some are just desperate for the money, and don't realize that ripping customers off will catch up to them. This occupation is demanding and totally dependent on attitude and personality. Some would do a poor job at whatever occupation they are in...