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In News: God's genocide of Palestinians continues as America yawns supplying weapons.
Germany looks to expect Nato involvement in Ukraine. By giving missiles to Ukraine capable of reaching Moscow. Russia warns of striking Berlin. Such circumstances would trigger Article 5, a commitment of other Nato members to intervene. Ukraine keeps loosing more territory with each assault as Russia hits back even harder striking Kiev the Ukraine capitol.
 
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This reminds me of when Hamas machine gunned innocent men, women and children in their homes and then setting the houses on fire.
Based on your reasoning... What should be the end result of that conflict ? Your best case scenario
 

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Liberal Lee Jae-myung wins South Korea's presidential election ending months of political turmoil

 
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Second night of riots in Paris. Maybe importing millions of third world people in a short amount time wasn't such a good idea after all. Get your vacation to Europe done soon while it's still worthwhile to visit.
They did it to themselves, such a shame.
 

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Second night of riots in Paris. Maybe importing millions of third world people in a short amount time wasn't such a good idea after all. Get your vacation to Europe done soon while it's still worthwhile to visit.
They did it to themselves, such a shame.
That was after PSG winning the title. Nothing to do with the immigrants . Remember the Vancouver riot in 2011 after loosing game 7 . Remember Montreal riot in 1993 after winning the cup . Both Canadian examples that it does happen mostly because of the fans' exuberance or anger .

It has happened in many countries around the world over the decades with or without immigrants in the rioting crowds.
 
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That was after PSG winning the title. Nothing to do with the immigrants . Remember the Vancouver riot in 2011 after loosing game 7 . Remember Montreal riot in 1993 after winning the cup . Both Canadian examples that it does happen mostly because of the fans' exuberance or anger .

It has happened in many countries around the world over the decades with or without immigrants in the rioting crowds.
Lol, talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees. It's just "exuberance".
Did you actually see any of the videos of the rioting? Probably not. I can't tell if you're being naive or if you're being wilfully ignorant. When Florida won the Stanley Cup last year, did roving gangs of exuberant people burn and loot in Miami?
I don't think so.
 
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Many British people seem not to notice; or, if they do, their programming is so thorough that they police their own thoughts carefully. Prince William dances along a knife edge; I’m convinced he understands the precariousness of his own position, but his options are limited. To speak out against immigration would be to dig his own grave. Stay silent, however, and one day he will be king of a country that no longer exists.

Crazed immigrants and their unassimilated offspring have committed hundreds of knife slaughters. The solution of the enfeebled nitwits in charge is to “ban knives,” of course. Sleepy English towns in the north are now majority Muslim, with all the vibrancy that comes with it. Not a native to be seen in the streets. In 1991, London was 80% native British. In 2021, this number had fallen to 36%.
https://tomklingenstein.com/this-neutered-isle-britain-after-britain/

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That was after PSG winning the title. Nothing to do with the immigrants . Remember the Vancouver riot in 2011 after loosing game 7 . Remember Montreal riot in 1993 after winning the cup . Both Canadian examples that it does happen mostly because of the fans' exuberance or anger .

It has happened in many countries around the world over the decades with or without immigrants in the rioting crowds.
Have to say alot of people's emotions are tied into their sports-team, as it is viewed as a way to let off steam during the season.

But when you get together with a crowd, think Lowest common denominator. Everyone in the crowd is at the lowest drunken intellect.
 
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Virginia Giuffre (nee Roberts) and husband Robert Guiffre in first class airline seats. Virginia and Robert discovered each other in a Thai massage school where serial pedophile Jeffrey Epstein sent Virginia. In 10 years of spousal abuse Robert Guiffre and Virginia sued Prince Andrew for $16 million in out of court settlement. Virginia’s father Sky Roberts met Epstein prior to Virginia going off to work for Epstein. Insisting daughter Virginia didn't commit suicide. And said, "Somebody got to her."

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Virginia 17 years old meeting Andrew. Would have issues with a parent who would send Virginia, likely at least a year younger, off on job without knowing more about Epstein.
 

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In News: God's genocide of Palestinians continues as America yawns supplying weapons.
Germany looks to expect Nato involvement in Ukraine. By giving missiles to Ukraine capable of reaching Moscow. Russia warns of striking Berlin. Such circumstances would trigger Article 5, a commitment of other Nato members to intervene. Ukraine keeps loosing more territory with each assault as Russia hits back even harder striking Kiev the Ukraine capitol.
Maybe Amnesty International should look at the HAMAS goals... The complete genocide of all Israelis. Israel is only doing "do unto others as they do unto you". Its the old testament "eye for an eye".
Are there any Jewish people in Amnesty International saying the same thing as the video? Or is the person speaking prejudiced against Israel?
This is on par with the UN giving an ex-dictator who committed genocide and put him on a human rights board/commision.... Are their morons in the UN?

Israel has given the Palestinians 3 or more chances/instances to solve the land problem in Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. The Palestinians have refused to deal on a diplomatic level with Israel, and committed terrorist acts against Israel.

Palestinians have had since 1948 to solve their issues with Israel on a diplomatic level. That is over 75 years to solve their problems.

Israel put a fence around Gaza. The Palestinians have hurled rockets over the fence (iron dome system was invented), built tunnels under the fence and used them for terrorist activities in Israel. To build tunnels that is long term planning. Their motto is "From the river to the sea", is a clear indication of what they want to do to the Israelis.

So why the fuck should Israel give a fuck about the Palestinians who want them dead..... I think the current number are around 54,000 vs 1200. If this was the Roman Empire (which the west is losely based apon because of laws and practices) the people were either executed (crucified) or sold into slavery).

Guess what the shit stops when they get back all the people, from the OCT 7 kidnappings....
 

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This Iran thing is worrisome.

Unless it is just enough for Iran to internally grow the fuk up and migrate from a Bat-Shit-Crazy muslim-fundamentalist power structure that wants all infidels to die, to a progressive run state. Problem is regime changes can open the door to even bat-shit-crazier groups…
 

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Canada does not recognize permanent Israeli control over territories occupied in 1967 (the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip). Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.
https://www.international.gc.ca/wor...y-politique_israelo-palestinien.aspx?lang=eng

So, given the gulf between Hamas’s aims and style of governance, how has it kept control of the enclave of 2.2 million people for so long? It’s important to remember that there have been no elections since 2006 and the average age of people in Gaza is about 18, meaning most people have not had the chance to vote for any other leadership.

Hamas has also reportedly ruled with an iron fist. Hamas has used strict and authoritarian methods of control, applying its own interpretations of strict sharia law, enforcing gender segregation in public, controlling the media, repressing any political opposition and eliminating all mechanisms of transparency and accountability.

Numerous reports have detailed human rights abuses conducted by Hamas against Palestinian civilians, including arbitrary detention, torture, punishment beatings and the death penalty. To be fair, a report in 2018 from Human Rights Watch found that similar human rights abuse was just as common in the West Bank under the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority. Hamas also stands accused of harassing journalists who criticize its government.

The catastrophic Hamas attack on October 7 which has led to the deaths of so many Palestinian civilians in Gaza has eliminated any pretense of legitimacy that Hamas may ever have had in the eyes of most of the world. Indeed, the days of Hamas may be over. But this will only increase the urgency of finding a long-term solution for Palestine, something that seems further away than ever.

https://theconversation.com/gaza-war-how-representative-is-hamas-of-ordinary-palestinians-218080

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A child in Gaza has exactly the same protections under the Geneva Conventions as a child in Israel." Jun 4, 2025

The four 1949 Conventions have been ratified by 196 states, including all UN member states, both UN observers (the Holy See and the State of Palestine)

International Court of Justice case
Israel has occupied the Palestinian territories, which comprise the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip, since 1967, making it the longest military occupation in modern history.

Israel ratified the Geneva Conventions on July 6, 1951.

About 30,000 Hamas in 2.1 million Palestinians. While Hamas an unlawful combatant a genocide continues.
 

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You kind of forget the idea of what you take in war is now yours. Every time the Muslim countries surrounding Israel attacked, the Israelis counter attacked and took ground.
But hey lets look at Jewish people in Muslim countries, who have been forced to move/immigrate because of persecution. Northern African countries, Egypt, East Africa countries etc.
Not saying taking land in the West Bank is right, but it will secure the future of Israel.
 

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You kind of forget the idea of what you take in war is now yours. Every time the Muslim countries surrounding Israel attacked, the Israelis counter attacked and took ground.
But hey lets look at Jewish people in Muslim countries, who have been forced to move/immigrate because of persecution. Northern African countries, Egypt, East Africa countries etc.
Not saying taking land in the West Bank is right, but it will secure the future of Israel.
Israel has been in that conundrum for decades. How can I get rid of the Palestinians without triggering the word genocide? There's plenty of desert to develop without the need to take over the remaining Palestinian territories. You kick them out genocide , you kill them indiscriminately genocide, you turn the territories into prison Apartheid all the while having close to 75% of the world countries recognizing the Palestinian territories as Palestinian with the right to self govern . You annex without doing those things and in two decades max the Palestinians population will have outgrown you and will out vote you and booth you out of your own government.

Everytime they got close to reach an agreement the extremist forces on both sides managed to quash things or trigger violence with calls for retaliation.

For all of the Israelian injustices the Hamas this time greatly underestimated the retaliation level and misestimated Israel end game . What was supposed to stop Israel to normalize their diplomatic relations with certain neighbouring countries turned into the worst case scenario for Hamas.

And on the other hand Israel by being so extreme with their retaliation just turned the new generation of Palestinians into extremists for a decade to come or more. Purposely or not
 
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Canada does not recognize permanent Israeli control over territories occupied in 1967 (the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip). Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.
https://www.international.gc.ca/wor...y-politique_israelo-palestinien.aspx?lang=eng

So, given the gulf between Hamas’s aims and style of governance, how has it kept control of the enclave of 2.2 million people for so long? It’s important to remember that there have been no elections since 2006 and the average age of people in Gaza is about 18, meaning most people have not had the chance to vote for any other leadership.

Hamas has also reportedly ruled with an iron fist. Hamas has used strict and authoritarian methods of control, applying its own interpretations of strict sharia law, enforcing gender segregation in public, controlling the media, repressing any political opposition and eliminating all mechanisms of transparency and accountability.

Numerous reports have detailed human rights abuses conducted by Hamas against Palestinian civilians, including arbitrary detention, torture, punishment beatings and the death penalty. To be fair, a report in 2018 from Human Rights Watch found that similar human rights abuse was just as common in the West Bank under the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority. Hamas also stands accused of harassing journalists who criticize its government.

The catastrophic Hamas attack on October 7 which has led to the deaths of so many Palestinian civilians in Gaza has eliminated any pretense of legitimacy that Hamas may ever have had in the eyes of most of the world. Indeed, the days of Hamas may be over. But this will only increase the urgency of finding a long-term solution for Palestine, something that seems further away than ever.

https://theconversation.com/gaza-war-how-representative-is-hamas-of-ordinary-palestinians-218080

From google:
A child in Gaza has exactly the same protections under the Geneva Conventions as a child in Israel." Jun 4, 2025

The four 1949 Conventions have been ratified by 196 states, including all UN member states, both UN observers (the Holy See and the State of Palestine)

International Court of Justice case
Israel has occupied the Palestinian territories, which comprise the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip, since 1967, making it the longest military occupation in modern history.

Israel ratified the Geneva Conventions on July 6, 1951.

About 30,000 Hamas in 2.1 million Palestinians. While Hamas an unlawful combatant a genocide continues.

there is no genocide, your own statement proves that

2.1 million they've grown yearly, just like the lie about starvation

which has been reported by useful idiots for the last year plus, almost 2, from the beginning

if either of these were true, there would be no one left in Gaza, yet video after video continues to prove otherwise

you don't have vision? seen any media/social/tv from Gaza? see any holocaust type people walking, well, standing around? skin and bones?

yeah who the fuck needs facts!!!

unless they're from HAMAS, so called numbers/facts, where you are getting your propaganda from

or do you know of any reputable news organizations on the ground? other gov't organizations? not the UN cunts either

or don't you accept Hamas is a terrorist org? then why would you believe them?

you take Putin at his word? Winnie the Pooh in China? the fat kid in North Korea? is that you donny?

Genocide, just like Canada wiped out all the natives here, who also have a high birthrate, just like the Gazans, than most

and only 30,000, sure, cause those other 2.7M are all completely against what Hamas stands for

just like those in the west bank, who also haven't had an election in over a decade

also pay people after they've killed Jews, a gov't subsidy


there is only one side who is advocating for Genocide and it isn't the Jews

they could have done it long ago

useful idiots, truth being the first casualty of war, that's the only constant in the middle east when it comes to Israel



all you need to see is when they talk about this, they almost never mention the hostages, which should be the first thing out of anyone's mouth, very first

if you really cared about it ending
 
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Belarusian opposition leader Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya told Euronews that her country might be used as a launchpad to attack and invade the Baltic states, but the people of Belarus will not go to war against their neighbours.

https://www.euronews.com/2025/06/13...s-but-belarusians-will-not-do-it-tsikhanouska

Thought to be a pre-cursor invasion. Come autumn Russia and Belarus planning large-scale joint military exercises near the Baltics, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. Russia and Belarus similarly held such live-fire exercises near Ukraine shortly before Russia's Special Military Operation. Another source speaks of sending in little green men.
 

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Published 15 Jun 2025
Israeli forces killed 59 Palestinians across Gaza, at least 17 of whom were trying to get food at aid sites operated by the controversial United States and Israeli-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), according to the Ministry of Health, the latest deaths in areas that critics have slammed as “human slaughterhouses”.

Israeli military admitted to shooting at aid seekers, but claimed it opened fire only when “suspects” deviated from a stipulated route to the distribution site.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...-in-gaza-half-of-them-while-trying-to-get-aid

Must to be a continuum where indiscriminate killing turns into genocide.

Google in definition of genocide:
These acts include killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about destruction....
 
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