Privacy focused client verification platform

[Heyax3]

Hey folks,

I wanted to throw an idea out there and see what people think, both clients and providers.

So a lot of providers understandably ask for some kind of verification (Drivers ID, LinkedIn, work email, etc.) to stay safe and make sure clients are who they say they are. That's totally fair and I completely understand the necessity of it.
At the same time, myself (and I'm sure other people) feel uncomfortable sending that kind of personal info through email or text.

There's been a few providers that I would have loved to meet but the verification methods hold me back. Being a software engineer by profession, I had a random idea recently that might make this process safer and easier for everyone.


Imagine a simple website where clients can privately verify stuff like their name, age, LinkedIn, or work email, but it stays on the site, never sent directly to providers.
When booking, the provider sends a request for the specific info they want to verify (like, “I just want to know your age , your first name and the company you work for”). Then the client gets to approve what’s shared. For example:

• Instead of sending your full work email, the site just confirms you have a company domain email (like @apple.com).
• Instead of sending your full driver's license, it just confirms your age.
• Instead of sending your LinkedIn profile, the provider can specify which fields they want to see
• If details like your home address or full name are not required by the provider, then they are not given those details.

Basically: providers get the info they need, clients don’t overshare, and everything stays secure in one place instead of floating around email inboxes and phones.


Would this be useful? Something you'd actually use? I’m thinking of building it as a side project just for fun, but only if people think it would help.

 

[PuntMeister]

Perhaps BDO will be interested in such a business plan.

Me tho: umm profit seeking illuminati with endless spam 4 life? Nah…

 

[Harmony-bc]

There is one. I can’t remember the name of it. But it’s an American one. P411, maybe?

 

[80watts]

Going to pay a third part to coordinate information, for a fee I would guess. Nothing is free. Who pays, the john or the SP or both?

Rule #1 on the internet, never put your information out on the web. Cause it can be hacked. eg Social media- Facebook

Let you in on a secret. Pooners are a secretive bunch. They hide their pooning from their wifes and families and friends. So why would someone trust a business with their own personal information, that proves they are pooning.

Can you say "Blackmail site"; should the information be stolen.

 

[westwoody]

There is one. I can’t remember the name of it. But it’s an American one. P411, maybe?

Eros was shut down by the feds a few years ago. They were allowed to re open in exchange for giving the government all the personal data of escorts who advertised on the site.
Funny how everyone forgot already.

 

[Pumped]

while its an interesting idea, it likely misses the point that the reason an independent SP would want a copy of I.D. is if a session goes bad, she has actual identification of the person involved not just some site's 'verification' that the person exists.

for me, I've typically met independent SPs when they were with agencies, we got to know each other, and then they asked me to join them when they went independent. I've also had SPs recommend me to other SPs.

 

[Heyax3]

Eros was shut down by the feds a few years ago. They were allowed to re open in exchange for giving the government all the personal data of escorts who advertised on the site.
Funny how everyone forgot already.

Wow, did not know that. Insane!
I guess having all that information in one place is a prime target for the feds and if it gets hacked, thats bad news.

 

[Bang4thebuck]

Solicitation is illegal. If the cops subpoena the data or if there's a leak, you're now in trouble. I would never provide verification to anybody. Not worth the risk.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Eros was shut down by the feds a few years ago. They were allowed to re open in exchange for giving the government all the personal data of escorts who advertised on the site.
Funny how everyone forgot already.

Eros used to be so good with amazing customer service and big money dates. Then it got sold and everything went to crap. After it went to crap, the feds shut it down. My ad that I paid money for had pop up ads on it. It was almost as bad as leolist lol.

Im already flagged at the border but I bet im banned for life now because of Eros. They had no proof before. Just speculation but now they probably have my id too lol.

 

[mckennalee]

I want to vote yes because I like the idea; I don't like clients sending me their verification through unsecured means like email, I worry about identity theft and I wish I had a better (more secure) method. Using signal is a good option, but there could be many benefits to a centralized & organized system like you describe!

Unfortunately, I agree with most of the comments that point out the pitfalls and added risk of using a third-party service. I'm unable to think of a scenario where I would trust this kind of service with my, or my clients data, especially these days. So my vote is no.

 

[Larry's Torch]

 

[Forum mod]

There are several of these sites out there, Preferred 411 is the most well known one in the USA (it's actually based in Spain to avoid US Laws) and I don't think there's ever been a Canadian one.

You would have to be drunk or high to give your personal info to a site like this, especially in the current legal and internet climate. Ashley Madison, Eros, TBD, lots of sites have been hacked or busted and just because it hasn't happened in Canada doesn't mean it won't. P411 is insanely expensive and I don't think it's all that widely used or respected anymore.

 

[lukom]

Onlyfans verification. It requires your first and last name. Contact info. Home address. Banking info. Valid IDs, with a selfie to verify it. You can have the SP sub to you....etc
It doesn't show any of this info to the SP mind you, but it requires verification through all this legal information where if they need to report you to the police the cops can order Onlyfans to reveal the identity and info of the onlyfans user.

 

[Heyax3]

This was an insightful discussion for me and I appreciate the responses -- so many valid points and concerns about what I suggested.

I see some solutions to some of the key issues that were brought up:

1. Make it so that the identification data stays off server and encrypted on your individual devices - you need to upload this "digital wallet" every time for the system to generate a verification, and that wallet will not be stored on server.
This solves the issue of your personal information being on the cloud or hackable. It will only be on your device (phone/computer).

2. The service could be catered towards everyone, not just this industry. That way, it avoids being put into the same category as Eros or P411. Verification as a service, for whatever the service could be.
This solves the issue of any stigma around having a profile under this service, since it can be used for other verification purposes.


Just throwing some ideas out there for the technical limitations - I still understand that most people especially in this hobby would not want to connect their personal information to the internet in any way whatsoever. And that's fair.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

No
Just NO.

 

[Forum mod]

Iverify.vip and a couple of others are charging 75 or 100 and asking for copies of IDs, LinkedIn profiles and more. Anyone actually providing these is risking a lot as hacking and US Government activity is ramping up against porn and sex work. In Canada, I just don't see the demand for this service. The ladies who ask for references, LinkedIn or other verification don't need the help and the guys who don't want to provide to them sure as hell aren't going to provide it to a 3rd party with no known track record let alone pay you enough to make it a viable business. Prove me wrong, but I think you are wasting your time on the development side.

 

[mckennalee]

2. The service could be catered towards everyone, not just this industry. That way, it avoids being put into the same category as Eros or P411. Verification as a service, for whatever the service could be.
This solves the issue of any stigma around having a profile under this service, since it can be used for other verification purposes.

Unfortunately something this general would be fairly inaccessible to SPs. We get our accounts banned pretty much everywhere we go.

I think keeping it smaller, and specific to the adult industry would be a more reasonable plan, and will allow you to focus on meeting the privacy needs of both clients and workers.

 

[Melo95]

A better idea would be a third party background check on this platform to ensure theres no criminal record without revealing anything else (not even a name). Thats all an SP should need to feel safe. Why are providers asking you for proof of employment? I've never been asked for this nor would I reveal it to them. It also potentially sets the client up for blackmail and assumes the entire risk is on the SP, when in reality its both

 

[Forum mod]

A better idea would be a third party background check on this platform to ensure theres no criminal record without revealing anything else (not even a name). Thats all an SP should need to feel safe. Why are providers asking you for proof of employment? I've never been asked for this nor would I reveal it to them. It also potentially sets the client up for blackmail and assumes the entire risk is on the SP, when in reality its both

We are not going to offer anything like this here. Thread closed.