2025 Canadian Political Thread

80watts

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Canada - Russian relations.

Until they withdrawl from Ukraine totally (pre 2013 borders) and hold democratic elections with no cheating and jailing the opposition leaders, they can go sit in the corner of the bar and drink vodka by themselves. In the corner where they can't see the hockey game... If they want company, do some changes at home....

Canada -US relations.

Canadian Hockey players will continue to win at hockey tournaments. Pls note particularly nasty checks will happen to American players until all tariffs are gone and the free trade agreement is in effect again. Trump will be banned from playing any form of hockey in Canada....That includes women's field hockey, and even Canadian Aboriginal Rules Lacrosse.
 
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They don’t have to try to get into my pants. I’m a sure thing. lol.

I agree Americans are arrogant asses around the world. I would never go to an all inclusive resort Mexican trip because I wouldn’t want to hang out with Americans.

When I say I love Americans, I’m talking about various sex workers, and queer folk across the border that I’ve made friends with and American clients that are sweet and generous.
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Canada needs nuclear weapons right away.
Trump wants to get rid of border treaties that are very bad and ripped off the US.
Trump is an existential threat to Canada.
And nuclear subs, ice breakers and the list goes on. Decades of not taking care of our own security. We need to buck up and get on it - fully agree - right away!
 

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How about a modern version of the Avro Arrow? Let’s throw in a nuclear sub and some AI piloted helicopters too.

Canada has the smarts, just not the political willpower or sensibilities—there would too many back-benchers with hads in the cookie jar, too much indicision/flip-flops, and lack of business sense.

Althoughwe hate them and puke at the idea of concentrated big business executing big government contracts, Canada’s failure to develop a corporate military/industrial infrustructure perpetuates our weaknesses.
 

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How about a modern version of the Avro Arrow? Let’s throw in a nuclear sub and some AI piloted helicopters too.

Canada has the smarts, just not the political willpower or sensibilities—there would too many back-benchers with hads in the cookie jar, too much indicision/flip-flops, and lack of business sense.

Althoughwe hate them and puke at the idea of concentrated big business executing big government contracts, Canada’s failure to develop a corporate military/industrial infrustructure perpetuates our weaknesses.
I was in Halifax some years ago and saw one of the used 4 Diesel/Electic subs in dry dock that the stupid liberals bought from Britain. What a colossal waste of taxpayers money those were. Don’t know if they ever even got them sea worthy.
 
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The sad truth is that if the US decided to invade Canada, our armed forces could only put up a token (if not heroic) resistance. Their military massively outnumbers ours in personnel, equipment, and advanced technology.

Our only slim hope would be a long term grass roots insurgency like the Americans experienced in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

The question is, will Canadians be willing to sacrifice and put up a fight, or bow down to their new overlords?

I think we should be stocking up on thousands of explosive drones (airborne and seaborne), MANPADS (Man Portable Air Defence Systems), anti-tank missiles, and AK-47s (the weapon of choice for the underdog).

And free IED courses at your local community college.
 
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The sad truth is that if the US decided to invade Canada, our armed forces could only put up a token (if not heroic) resistance. Their military massively outnumbers ours in personnel, equipment, and advanced technology.

Our only slim hope would be a long term grass roots insurgency like the Americans experienced in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

The question is, will Canadians be willing to sacrifice and put up a fight, or bow down to their new overlords?

I think we should be stocking up on thousands of explosive drones (airborne and seaborne), MANPADS (Man Portable Air Defence Systems), anti-tank missiles, and AK-47s (the weapon of choice for the underdog).

And free IED courses at your local community college.
I’m anti war. However if America invaded Canada, I’ll be Mata Hari gladly and proudly. I would also fight. I’m not afraid of conflict, pain or death. I called myself a pacifist in another post but it isn’t quite right. I think war is horrible and should never be fought but I do believe in self defense and standing up to bullies and standing up for what’s right.
 

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Big if true.

Highest Liberal support since Trudeau won a majority.
NDP in no seats territory.
Cons at historic low going into an election.


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How about a modern version of the Avro Arrow? Let’s throw in a nuclear sub and some AI piloted helicopters too.

Canada has the smarts, just not the political willpower or sensibilities—there would too many back-benchers with hads in the cookie jar, too much indicision/flip-flops, and lack of business sense.

Althoughwe hate them and puke at the idea of concentrated big business executing big government contracts, Canada’s failure to develop a corporate military/industrial infrustructure perpetuates our weaknesses.
Kinda did with the "minister of all" in WW2. In charge of war production in Canada during WW2.
One company was SNC Lavlin. There were big British names here. Avro, Pratt and Whittney, Bombardier, Babcock,Peacock inc, Hamworthy (now under Wartsila).
https://bombercommandmuseumarchives.ca/s,canadawaraircraftmanufacture.pdf contains a few manufacturers. Vickers is one.

Bombardier is one of the companies that can do heavy machinery here in Canada. Train modules. Small Airplanes.
Although Canada did alot of ship building in WW2, alot of its heavy industry for shipbuilding has since been sold off to other countries.

The big thing you need is large steel production and large forging equipment, which is labour intensive. That requires investment. No canadian bank will do that right now.

Its kinda along the path of Canadian shipbuilding. Every 25 years the Navy needs new warships, so instead of building 1 per year they build 12 and wait another 25 years for the next class of ship. Really wipes out the foundation knowledge for metal workers and mechanics.

The biggest thing is 3D printing. Metal 3D part can be made fast and cheaper than the old fashioned machining. Not that Cadcam machines aren't good, but they are expensive.

The technology we want to go forth and get are battery powered vehicles and even hydrogen powered vehicles.
 

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I was in Halifax some years ago and saw one of the used 4 Diesel/Electic subs in dry dock that the stupid liberals bought from Britain. What a colossal waste of taxpayers money those were. Don’t know if they ever even got them sea worthy.
To be fair at that time the experts thought it would be cheaper. What they should of done is run with the submarines as is and then use money to develop the sub further and make new subs in Canada (again the lack of heavy metals/machinery production). What they did do, is Canadianize it to death; which meant redesigning everything to Canadian "code". This in turn meant specialized companies to supply specialized parts which cost more. All when a simple o-ring or gasket material would do.

The other problem is that when idiots design something, they don't put in expansibility for the pieces of equipment they designing. So a ship should have bigger cables to supply higher amperage electricity, bigger piping to deal with increase in cooling loads for AC and new machinery. Or they cut back during construction in order to save money, limiting future use of newer equipment(to make it overall better machine). A wire that only require 10 amps now, but future use would need a wire capable of 14 amps. So in the future you would need ( and be a-lot harder to replace) an 14 amp wire. So the ship will never get the upgrade to 14 amp, making future improvements impossible, so you need to get a need type of ship or vehicle.

A vehicle should have a bigger engine compartment to accommodate a bigger hp engine for future use in case the armour gets too heavy. Same goes for suspension of such vehicles. Design it to take abuse. Test the shit out of it. Give it to the dumb asses, and they will find your problems with it. Instead the testing is given to ass-kissers who state "its the best thing since sliced bread"......

Same thing for questionnaires about any subject. Its designed to state what the writers/management want, not what the people/troops doing the questionnaires know or want. This is called going through the motions..... Reason why things are so fucked up.

The biggest problem is the senior personal (who don't use the equipment) don't listen to the people who test/use the equipment (or just fucken ignore them), and therefore you get a piece of shit like that Western star vehicle which could not go off road, which is the whole reason they brought it for in the first place. Or the testing is done by inexperienced personnel that don't have a fucken clue, when a experienced person would tell you its a piece of shit....

Probally be more people in the CAF if they had better equipment and more training time to play with that same equipment. Shoot lots and lots of ammo, different types of guns etc. Drive different vehicles etc .
 

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The question is,

the ? is why anyone is wasting time or breath on the non issue

the U.S. won't be invading Canada, just cause one demented old man is in the oval office

so maybe talking about things that actually matter, like how to actually fight back to make

the U.S. public revolt against the orange mental patient would be a better use of people's time

rather than talking about something that will never happen

the solution is really simple

cut off Potash/oil/gas/alum/steel/stop coal from going thru the ports in BC, electricity, full stop

then see how long they take to turn on Trump, come back and beg for things to go back to normal

or keep deluding yourself you're not going to keep

ENABLING A MORON FOR 4 MORE YEARS

MUCH LIKE WE DID WITH A OUR OWN MANCHILD FOR 9 HERE RUINING OUR ECONOMY

SO YEAH, PRETTY MUCH DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT TALK ABOUT DELUSIONAL REALITIES THAT WON'T HAPPEN

LIKE NET ZERO OUR NEWEST CORRUPT LIBERAL'S MAIN ECONOMIC PLAN
 

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Union says 170 jobs lost as B.C. manufacturer Prepac moves operations to U.S.

Prepac opened its Delta facility in 2005 and was acquired in 2019 for $199 million by private equity firm TorQuest Partners.

https://www.biv.com/news/retail-man...cturer-prepac-moves-operations-to-us-10359841

The union calls for boycott of Prepac. Name most likely won't exist after closure and move. TorQuest facility in south-east US.

In the movie the PrePac furniture manufacturing facilities of Delta BC up for equipment auction. As individual pieces just junk and nothing more than conversational pieces. If BC supported shop trained high school graduates the equipment could likely be taken for pennies on the dollar and run by a young team who already likely intimately know and work well with each other. The union workers and friends don't seem to think of collectively buying the operation while union urges boycott of the brand. For morale, British Columbians need to know the equipment taken by at least a responsible Canadian to set up in BC, preferably at the existing Delta BC location.

360 Video of Prepac Manufacturing Auction Site
 

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The sad truth is that if the US decided to invade Canada, our armed forces could only put up a token (if not heroic) resistance. Their military massively outnumbers ours in personnel, equipment, and advanced technology.

Our only slim hope would be a long term grass roots insurgency like the Americans experienced in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

The question is, will Canadians be willing to sacrifice and put up a fight, or bow down to their new overlords?

I think we should be stocking up on thousands of explosive drones (airborne and seaborne), MANPADS (Man Portable Air Defence Systems), anti-tank missiles, and AK-47s (the weapon of choice for the underdog).

And free IED courses at your local community college.
We probably wouldnt fight in all honesty. There would be extreme civil unrest, but if they were to invade, they'd probably police us like an occupier would.

Only thing that would truly discourage aggression in this world is nuclear weapons
 

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We probably wouldnt fight in all honesty. There would be extreme civil unrest, but if they were to invade, they'd probably police us like an occupier would.

Only thing that would truly discourage aggression in this world is nuclear weapons
We are simply too close to us populations for them to use or threaten to use nukes against Canadians. Dirty bombs are easy to make, and being a nuclear nation with an abundance of our own nuclear waste, as well as an abundance of raw uranium, I would not exclude that as a retalatory measure.

This is extreme and definitely off the rails.
 
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We probably wouldnt fight in all honesty. There would be extreme civil unrest, but if they were to invade, they'd probably police us like an occupier would.

Only thing that would truly discourage aggression in this world is nuclear weapons
there wouldn't be a fight. and its not going to happen. this is coming from only a single man and that single man is as dumb as a rock. yeah, he's a good salesman... but that just requires repeating a written sales pitch over and over.

the tyrants dilemma is that they control all the power... and one human can't solve such complex issues.

if the Ukraine army collapses tomorrow and Russia takes all of the county, then the entire Russian army would need to occupy Ukraine for the next three decades under a constant onslaught of insurgency and attempts at political sovereignty.

if every Canadian was thrilled about joining the US then it would be a one to two decade exercise that would cost trillions of dollars and probably dilute conservative US politics.

if every Canadian was NOT thrilled about joined the US then the entire US military would have to occupy Canada to administer it for the next three decades under constant attempts at political sovereignty. there wouldn't even have to be a bullet spent.

the truth is that the human race IS socially coalescing into a smaller number of tribes but that these tribes are predominantly economic unions. NAFTA was that already. Trump is too stupid to know this stuff and no one will tell him.
 

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there wouldn't be a fight. and its not going to happen. this is coming from only a single man and that single man is as dumb as a rock. yeah, he's a good salesman... but that just requires repeating a written sales pitch over and over.

the tyrants dilemma is that they control all the power... and one human can't solve such complex issues.

if the Ukraine army collapses tomorrow and Russia takes all of the county, then the entire Russian army would need to occupy Ukraine for the next three decades under a constant onslaught of insurgency and attempts at political sovereignty.

if every Canadian was thrilled about joining the US then it would be a one to two decade exercise that would cost trillions of dollars and probably dilute conservative US politics.

if every Canadian was NOT thrilled about joined the US then the entire US military would have to occupy Canada to administer it for the next three decades under constant attempts at political sovereignty. there wouldn't even have to be a bullet spent.

the truth is that the human race IS socially coalescing into a smaller number of tribes but that these tribes are predominantly economic unions. NAFTA was that already. Trump is too stupid to know this stuff and no one will tell him.
What i fear is not what would happen now, but a decade or 2 later when the message of annexing Canada had time to marinate in the heads of Americans.
Their propaganda machine is on full blast. It'll only be a matter of when, if such dialogue wasnt squished in its infancy.

It will get worse when our conflict start affecting sensible americans and even their opinion start to shift
 
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