Why so serious? The whole thing would never happen anyways so……….
2025 Canadian Political Thread
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Busted Fentanyl Super Lab In Canada Makes "Breaking Bad Look Minor League": Former Trump Official
...border security and efforts to curb fentanyl trafficking was a key factor behind the president's 25% tariff threat.
..."but your problem is your laws: It's the Stinchcombe law. Basically, every time we try to go up on a phone number in Canada, almost all the money laundering networks are tied to China, which is about 90% of all the money laundering in the US. So when we're targeting those numbers - the police have to inform that individual that the US is targeting their number. That's crazy - how can we run an undercover police operation in the country?"
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6641985
...border security and efforts to curb fentanyl trafficking was a key factor behind the president's 25% tariff threat.
..."but your problem is your laws: It's the Stinchcombe law. Basically, every time we try to go up on a phone number in Canada, almost all the money laundering networks are tied to China, which is about 90% of all the money laundering in the US. So when we're targeting those numbers - the police have to inform that individual that the US is targeting their number. That's crazy - how can we run an undercover police operation in the country?"
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6641985
Only an idiot believes that bullshit.
Trump wanted to renegotiate his own free trade deal. The only escape clause he had was the “National Security” provision.
PP is not very likeable and doesn't really have a track record to boast about.
And he has based everything on hating Trudeau & the carbon tax. These two issues have disappeared on him.
And he has to defend his previous support for Trump. And of course he has Musk and Peterson saying he is a great guy............
You're right, he may be fucked and not by any of our lovely ladies.
Oooh, those Belgians have good chocolates 🍫 and good beer. 🍺
Greedy bastards.
Yes! Fuck Greenland! Belgium is a better prize, at least near-term.
Have you noticed that no one is threatening to invade Nunavit?
I don’t suspect J.D. Vance has ever heard of Nunavit. But the reason nobody is talking about invading it is likely because the locals are having None-Of-It.
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I don’t suspect J.D. Vance has ever heard of Nunavit. But the reason nobody is talking about invading it is likely because the locals are having None-Of-It.
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Canadians need to get their heads out of the sand. The tariff question and growing the length of supply chains elsewhere other than America a diversion. Not denying its importance but Canadian souvernty depends on fabricating products consumed in Canada. Any new appliance. Building materials. We're not a nation of at home fixer-uppers anymore. Everything gets bought new. All you're fantasies now about buying Canadian really just a fantasy until Canadians divert their attention to where needed. Explain to your children to major in physics, chemistry, calculus. Don't worry about going across town to a high-end university. Every municipality seems to have a college these days. If not academic enough for university encourage shop courses and staying in school and attending trade schools. Getting on a bandwagon of gizmos doesn't work either. If you can't make money on alternative energy sources alternatives just another fantasy. I'm talking about the things in your home, your garage, your place of work, your place of entertainment and the streets you inhabit going from one to the other. Anything. The screws holding the light switch cover on. The hub caps on your car. The mouse in your hand. And all the guts and small pieces inside most everything else. Work to be done in your neighborhood. Forget the carbon tax. You're going to have a short drive to work.
Or put another way, 1 in 5 Americans do not think it should be up to Canadians to decide our own future. I'd like to say that is weirdly out of line with US thinking, just a MAGA byproduct, but it is not. There has always been a too-large portion of them who think it is their god given right to control how other nations live their lives. That 1 in 5 are the sort of people to just believe whatever the American exceptionalist cult tells them to believe - lies do not matter, because only satisfying their own egos is what counts.
The fentanyl issue now is fake (at least in respect to Canada's alleged role), just like Trump's "200 billion dollar subsidy" is fake, just like his "we should stop protecting them (as if there is anyone but them we need protection from)" is fake. Dealing with this US regime is like dealing with the mafia: "you owe us money when you don't, pay us protection or you shop might suddenly burn down". The way to beat them is to show you are not intimidated, and be ready to retaliate if they are dumb enough to attack. They have to know you are ready and willing to "go to the mattresses", and your own resolve & discipline is what wins this thing. Some bullies will back off at the first sign of resistance, others actually need to be cut up and sent to hospital before they will back off. But we should not feel any remorse for defending ourselves by any means necessary.
The 50% of Americans who oppose the idea are blindsided by this Canada thing - because it was literally conjured out of nothing, against a country they have never had any real problems with and which shows every sign of actually hating the idea along with anyone who proposes it. They're asking themselves "We have a problem with China, so we're attacking Canada, Mexico, Panama, and Denmark? WTF ?" The last time Canadian smuggling into the US was even a real issue was maybe100 years ago with bootleggers supplying them with booze during prohibition (and that was the US causing a problem for itself), and they likely know it. But the question is whether the 50% will just go along with something terrible (again), because they are also just too focused on themselves. That's why Canadian (and others) retaliation must take place, and should already be getting put into place: that 50% need to feel the shock of it personally, not be think this is some far-off foreign issue that does not affect their own lives. When their fuel costs double, when their own factories cannot produce products, when their own power grids start to fail, when their farmers cannot grow crops, then they will realize the price of their country attacking its own allies; then they will realize their enemies are still their enemies and all this did was create more; then they will blame the 20% who are assholes, start to fight them and throw them out of power.
As for the 20% of "Canadian" conservatives who support annexation, they just lost the right to call themselves Canadians. They should move away permanently, to live their American lives serving their American masters, on American soil.
Real Canadians are sick of their anti-Canadian antics and will not be tolerant or merciful this time to those who collaborate or conspire with with Canada's enemy.
Well decade after decade they were told by other that this was the path to earning the best income. It was insinuated more than a little that shop courses and blue collar work was just for bums who dropped out of high school. Nope, but in science, be in business, be in things like marketing, that is what all those "they" experts drummed into peoples' heads.
The business community did the most to set up Canada and the whole world for this, and actively campaigned against national self-sufficiency, in favour of (as always) cheap labour and low standards (environmental, safety, health, labour). And they said, oh but don't worry about it - once you are all highly paid white collar professionals, the economic prosperity will sustain itself on consumption of goods and services alone.
The oligarchs peddled these lies for the last 4 decades, and the public (the voters) unfortunately ignored the critics and bought in. Now the same assholes who suckered us into that game before get ahead politically by basically blaming people for walking on the very path they laid down. The oligarchs change the name of the game, but not its object: they get rich by turning the common people into commodities and robbing them blind.
Northern gateway was an environmental abomination before, and still is now. The "climate denier" crowd were idiotic before and nothing about the political "Trump versus the world" situation today has changed the FACT that the earth is warming up rapidly thanks to carbon emissions, and every aspect of life on earth is becoming harder and more threatened because of that. The "do nothing about it, ever" crowd may score a tactical victory thanks to the political chaos (driven by some world leaders who are pushing the denial movement), but long-term, the world's prospects for survival will still be fucked. One problem does not disappear because another one arises to compete with it for attention.
That is why the east-west pipeline to send Canadian petroleum to Canadian refineries back east for serving Canadian needs is the only pipeline project I will support. (And on that, they need to build it fast, like wartime fast.)
Once that is in place and our refined fuel supply secure from US interference, we (along with Mexico) can cut the exports off, and hopefully the price shock will collapse their corrupt and demented regime.
As for the Albertans' complaints about the revenue, there are ways around that for a smart government, even a carbon-emissions reducing one, plus why would they care where the money comes from as long as it comes? Unless of course the motivation of people like Smith is not about revenue but about their true allegiances.
As for Europe, Canada did not say no to them, but when the USA engineered the Ukraine conflict over long term, part of their motivation was to get Europe to replace Russian oil and gas with exclusively US sources. The LNG projects here were all geared towards Asian customers (hmm), but that was in part because the demand in Europe was spoken for. Now Canada can act on filling that demand, but it is dependent on the Russian and US sources being shunned by the EU.
Either way, we must be self-sufficient in meeting domestic Canadian needs first, then exports to Asia and Europe are secondary, and by that point we may be supplying nothing to the US, and if their shale oil cannot meet their own demand without Canada and Mexico helping, they are fucked (and nobody will feel sorry for them).
It also needs to be said that any moves we and Europe can make simultaneously to reduce our carbon fuel demand actually make it easier to solve this problem as we go along. You might hate the idea of EV's (why?) or carbon pricing, but strategically it puts us in a improved position to benefit from having less domestic civilian demand. Like in wartime, the more fuel we save, the more the "war effort" goes well for the sharp end of our society.
I will point this fact out: in the conversation:
Since the outbreak of Ukraine hostilities the Russians also completed a number of oil and gas pipelines that go directly to China, and their trade of carbon energy to China has grown a lot, even using things like their arctic shipping route.
Even assuming the Ukraine war ends with an end to energy sanctions on the Russia to Europe trade, there is no guarantee that Europe will be able to draw upon Russian sources like they used to. That is leaving aside whether they even want to restart it on either side for political reasons.
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Trudeau was actually never much of an ideologue.
The opposition reacted to anything he did in an rabidly oppositional way, but that is just political hype & hysteria. In truth the real knock against Trudeau was how little serious ideological commitment there was. Mostly what you saw was a lot of optics, a lot of gimmicks, and very little progress towards even their own stated goals. Often they would weaken their stances or even reverse them, or undermine their own supposed causes by not fighting for it or not knowing how to fight for it effectively. Really you have to wonder if they were ever really committed to those ideals at all, or thought it could be achieved on its own without expending effort.
That does not indicate an ideologue, that indicates and opportunistic view.
What did Trudeau say once - "Better is always possible" ? Well, no shit, bub - but people wanted actual not possible.
It's all a moot point now. His failures are at an end, and the fight is no longer about him or the past but Canada's survival in the future.
I hope Carney - if it is even him at all - has the actual vision and guts to get things done which need to be done. Whether one is a pragmatist or an idealist, there must be more delivering, less dithering.
I follow the trends not single polls, but yes there definitely is a trend now that drops Conservative support and increases Liberal. (And to a lesser degree drops NDP and increases Liberal.)
Though most would say Conservative support is still ahead by a decent margin (several percent), the Cons are seeing erosion of their support while Lib support basically doubled (from an abysmal 16% at Trudeau's resignation to 32% if Carney is the leader) and that sort of general shift is taking place with the Liberal party leadership unknown and no firm policies on offer yet.
So okay, it is a contest once again, and even with the CPC still holding a lead, it still ends the old prediction of the CPC blowing out the Liberals' candles forever.
In fact this lab is apparently linked to the drug trade between Canada and Australia. A few months ago they started intercepting shipments and busting these labs all over BC, AB, and Australia; some caught mainly with meth, some with fentanyl, and lots of guns of course.
For all the talk of people of getting at the money laundering more (I agree), anyone who is yammering about that but also supporting cryptocurrency and the "right" to have offshore banks in tax shelter countries is supporting money laundering and is therefore a hypocrite. You want to look where all that money is being washed? You can also look at the real estate market (and how housing affordability really got destroyed).
Then there is how the arms industry and gun lobbyists conspire to flood the market with weapons and cripple enforcement, enabling all the gangs to wage war on each other and the cops. The politicians backing this position do nothing to curtail black market access to weaponry, and they know that almost all of it is ending up in criminal hands, but they still like to complain about crime groups.
By all means, bust the labs, bust the dealers, bust the weapon smugglers, but the criminal machine is bigger than that, and it is global. The oligarchs who support Trump are part of that machine too, no matter how many "law and order" lies they tell.
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Smuggling is a problem, the border undefended on both sides. Smuggling of cigarettes through Indian Reservations happens alot for high taxed items in Canada coming from the states.
Big corporations are american in attitude if not owned by them.
They won't press for bigger manufacturing of raw materials here in Canada. I have never seen big bussiness here in Canada demand more Cdn manufacturing. Mostly you have to listen to what they are not saying and read between the lines of BS....
One thing is certain, going more for manufacturing, 3D printing will come in handy. Look into metal 3d printing.
One thing that might have to be done is the elimination of "patents". Especially for military equipment. Which will make it alot cheaper.
