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Motorman

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You want the rest of the world to fund the American world order. Why should they do that? What is Canada prtotecting? Maybe we should pull out of Nato, let Putin have Europe.
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There can be agreements on defence that dont involve Americans trying to stomp their feet and gnash their teeth to grt their way. Maybe America should lower its defence spending since they cant even pass audit?

Also, tell me who works harder : a Mexican immigrant picking watermelons i a Georgia field i the summer, or Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos? How are they rewarded? Your argument about this is bunk and if you claim the latter are 'working smarter' then why dont STEM guys get billions instrad of tweaked out internet trolls like Elon? Also why do the billionaires have to sprnd so much money to sway legislation?

Trump had played you for a sucker, hes not going to help anyone but him, his cronies, and his coked out sons and daughters. He made a travesty of the justice system in the states and has never been held accountable for all the people hes ripped off, defamed, and demeaned.
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Now because Ive applied the same logic standard you're trying argue with to your arguments im mentally ill? Typical dismissive bullshit when people don't actually have a valid counterpoint. Try harder.

Keep in mind, I very purposefully haven't attacked you as a person but what you're arguing. You might be the nicest person in the world but i simply dont agree with you and if you're allowed to rant then so am I.
 
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Motorman

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Bottomline, Canada and many other countries should have enough pride to fund whatever they want with their own money and not rely on the American taxpayer. The women that advertise on this platform will not provide free service and Americans should not provide Canadians, or other countries free money. My neighbor, a Japanese national, works at the Japanese consulate and last night she told me Japan is frightened of Trump cutting Japan‘s funding. Japan has a huge elderly population they cannot support and now Japan must increase military funding. Tax increases are a foregone conclusion. She said it is long past due and I agree. The exchange rate is killing the country, like Canada, not too long ago it was almost one to one. Nobody thought the twice impeached convicted felon had a chance…..Trump cleaned Kamala’s clock.……for a reason. If….a big if….Trump lowers taxes, ends the war in Ukraine and brings Iran to its knees, liberals will not hold a majority for years to come. Call DJT Hitler or whatever, he won in a landslide! Just pay for yourselves, nothing more, just be self supportive, that’s it! Dear god, have enough pride to live without welfare! AMERICA FIRST and MAGA!
 

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Bottomline, Canada and many other countries should have enough pride to fund whatever they want with their own money and not rely on the American taxpayer. The women that advertise on this platform will not provide free service and Americans should not provide Canadians, or other countries free money. My neighbor, a Japanese national, works at the Japanese consulate and last night she told me Japan is frightened of Trump cutting Japan‘s funding. Japan has a huge elderly population they cannot support and now Japan must increase military funding. Tax increases are a foregone conclusion. She said it is long past due and I agree. The exchange rate is killing the country, like Canada, not too long ago it was almost one to one. Nobody thought the twice impeached convicted felon had a chance…..Trump cleaned Kamala’s clock.……for a reason. If….a big if….Trump lowers taxes, ends the war in Ukraine and brings Iran to its knees, liberals will not hold a majority for years to come. Call DJT Hitler or whatever, he won in a landslide! Just pay for yourselves, nothing more, just be self supportive, that’s it! Dear god, have enough pride to live without welfare! AMERICA FIRST and MAGA!
So what exactly are you doing here anyway? If everyone but the US sucks, why don't you go find a MAGA escort review board to rant and rave on? Find a more receptive audience to your condescending BS. Troll.
 

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Bottomline, Canada and many other countries should have enough pride to fund whatever they want with their own money and not rely on the American taxpayer. The women that advertise on this platform will not provide free service and Americans should not provide Canadians, or other countries free money. My neighbor, a Japanese national, works at the Japanese consulate and last night she told me Japan is frightened of Trump cutting Japan‘s funding. Japan has a huge elderly population they cannot support and now Japan must increase military funding. Tax increases are a foregone conclusion. She said it is long past due and I agree. The exchange rate is killing the country, like Canada, not too long ago it was almost one to one. Nobody thought the twice impeached convicted felon had a chance…..Trump cleaned Kamala’s clock.……for a reason. If….a big if….Trump lowers taxes, ends the war in Ukraine and brings Iran to its knees, liberals will not hold a majority for years to come. Call DJT Hitler or whatever, he won in a landslide! Just pay for yourselves, nothing more, just be self supportive, that’s it! Dear god, have enough pride to live without welfare! AMERICA FIRST and MAGA!
well you started off with some logical arguments and have kinda degraded into repeating whatever talking heads say on Fox News.

i can't comment a lot on Japan but what "welfare" is Canada getting from the US? a trade deficit is not "welfare". Canada sells surplus. and we mostly sell natural resources to the US. no tariffs are going to make the US suddenly the biggest producer of potash in the world! its the idiocy of Trumps economic policy that it appears he just made up himself. its going to be a big drain on Canada to establish new trade routes for all of that potash but it'll happen. maybe the US can buy it off of China after we sell it to them!?

as for NATO, i'm fine for Canada to leave NATO. what the fuck do we need NATO for? you don't get that we pitch in to protect US interests with NATO, not the other way around. we could easily put that money to establishing a nuclear arsenal, developing our own defence technologies to compete with the US globally. fuck we already abandoned the military aerospace industry decades ago at the US's insistence.

Trump cleaned Kamalas clock because he is an extremely effective populist who convinced enough people that the country was on fire... when in fact the US economy is at an all time high and Americans have never been better off. but thats politics, if you can't find a problem then make one up! trans rights! wokeism! DEI! who the fuck cares? and now you will be shived with a hand full of trillion dollar buy outs to his friends using your money. his plan is to use tariffs to help fund some of this. thats a regressive tax. so, essentially taking from the poor US consumer to give to the rich.

having said all that Trump may be doing exactly what i have predicted and has his eye on boosting the equities market only. i've divested my Canadian equities except for paper gold in advance of the dust up coming in Jan. Trump may just balk, tell everybody he shrewdly got something from Canada and then back to the old system. in which case i will pick up some bargains on the Canadian market. if he doesn't then he's going to ruin the US and CDN economy so i'm good to go with the gold.

enjoy those brown outs when we cut off the electricity.
 
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Let's check the tape.
1. Gas under 2:00 /gal
2. Lower grocery prices
3. 50 % decrease in auto insurance
4. Landlords will reduce rent
5. House prices will go down
6. Sub 3 % interest rates
7. No tax on tips, social security and overtime
8. End the Russia/Ukraine war in January
9.End Israel conflict
10. Lower taxes on families earning 200,000
11. Replace Obomacare with something far superior (conceptually) at least.
12. Pardon the Jan6rs
Just to start

Got the Presidency, Congress, Senate and the Supreme Court.

Should be a cake walk
 

westwoody

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Let's check the tape.
1. Gas under 2:00 /gal
2. Lower grocery prices
3. 50 % decrease in auto insurance
4. Landlords will reduce rent
5. House prices will go down
6. Sub 3 % interest rates
7. No tax on tips, social security and overtime
8. End the Russia/Ukraine war in January
9.End Israel conflict
10. Lower taxes on families earning 200,000
11. Replace Obomacare with something far superior (conceptually) at least.
12. Pardon the Jan6rs
Just to start

Got the Presidency, Congress, Senate and the Supreme Court.

Should be a cake walk
1,3,4. He can't unilaterally tell people what to charge.
2. He's already backtracking on the grocery prices.
5. House prices won't go down with a 25% tariff on building material from Canada.
8. He can't end the Ukraine/Russia war. He might cut funding/aid to Ukraine but that won't stop anything.
9. Israel, wait didn't Kushner resolve that already?
10. Lower taxes on middle class, read the fine print LOL he actually raised them.
11. He's been releasing his healthcare plan "soon" since 2015 LOL again.
12. He will probably do this.

If any of these promises fail he will blame someone else despite having all three branches in his pocket.
The winners will be the ultra wealthy who will enjoy a transfer much like the rise of the oligarchs in Russia. Government institutions will be privatised ie stolen under the guise of efficiency.
It will be interesting to watch health stats if vaccination stops. There may be a big comeback for a lot of horrible diseases like polio and smallpox. Deregulation of the FDA could result in disasters like Thalidomide.
Nobody plans on getting cancer or diabetes, good luck to any Americans who do.
 

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#LuigiForPOTUS2025
Luigi wasn't the first and there might be a LOT more.
America is rapidly turning into pre revolutionary France.
Don't fear people who have a lot to lose.
Fear people who have nothing to lose.

When Trump's followers wake up and realise he doesn't give a shit about them they're going to be pissed.
 
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PolarPlesiosaur

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The same place you are: PERB
Let's check the tape.
1. Gas under 2:00 /gal
2. Lower grocery prices
3. 50 % decrease in auto insurance
4. Landlords will reduce rent
5. House prices will go down
6. Sub 3 % interest rates
7. No tax on tips, social security and overtime
8. End the Russia/Ukraine war in January
9.End Israel conflict
10. Lower taxes on families earning 200,000
11. Replace Obomacare with something far superior (conceptually) at least.
12. Pardon the Jan6rs
Just to start

Got the Presidency, Congress, Senate and the Supreme Court.

Should be a cake walk
Is this a list of things Trump has said he will do?

Looking at his past actions, when has he ever done something that will actually help people that are not him, or that don’t lick his Chinese knockoff boots?
 
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westwoody

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Bottomline, Canada and many other countries should have enough pride to fund whatever they want with their own money and not rely on the American taxpayer
Bottom line: the United States was founded by a bunch of cheapskates who mooched off the English taxpayers who protected them from the French and Spanish.
England wanted the Colonies to pay for their own defence but the colonists revolted instead.
The "Revolutionary War", when looked at in true historical reference, was little more than a proxy was between France and Britain, who were fighting a global war. The USA would not have succeeded without massive outside help from France and European mercenaries.
 

PolarPlesiosaur

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The same place you are: PERB
Bottom line: the United States was founded by a bunch of cheapskates who mooched off the English taxpayers who protected them from the French and Spanish.
England wanted the Colonies to pay for their own defence but the colonists revolted instead.
The "Revolutionary War", when looked at in true historical reference, was little more than a proxy was between France and Britain, who were fighting a global war. The USA would not have succeeded without massive outside help from France and European mercenaries.
A significant reason for the success of the Americans was that one battle where George Washington rowed an entire army across a large river in winter, at night, losing a ton of soldiers in the process, and catching a British field army with the pants down because the British commander literally could not conceive of in a million years that Washington would do something that fundamentally stupid as he did. Washington was basically Jar Jar Binks in that one battle at the end of Ep. I completely accidentally lucking into victory.
 
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An Open repair for an Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm
I just saw this, glad you made it! Near miraculous.
A few years ago we had a guy drop collapse at work from that, he did not survive.
 
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