I find it disheartening when people throw around terms like that to basically insult good people who are only trying to debate. You should be ashamed of yourself, your attitude seems to indicate that you are probably unbearable to people in real life.
You'd think someone in the oil industry would be thankful that Trudeau and Notley went against their own bases and got a pipeline, built that ten years of Harper, Kenney and Poilievre couldn't.
Are you so small that you must constantly belittle. You must be a huge disappointment to those who live around you. I am sure that those in your echo chamber applaud you. Everyone else probably realizes your issues and probably avoids you.
Guys like that can never be thankful.
Like the Alberta governemnt whos going to use public funds to clean up after their errant children? Or tell you what you cant say in schools? That Nanny state?
You decry the nanny state while benefiting from it.
They could have built a pipeline.
I think you're purposefully being obtuse and/or otherwise having revisionist history about the TMX twinning project. I don't recall any politician "back in the day" (i.e. 2012/13'ish time frame when the the twinning of TMX was first proposed) that the taxpayers should be footing the bill for it - (or as you put it, "they could have built a pipeline"). Sure, Alberta Provincial politicians wanted it approved. I'm sure the CPC federal govt (at the time it was first proposed) wanted it approved. But that is a far cry from what this current Liberal govt did. Sure, they approved it in (if memory serves) 2017'ish. You want to give them credit for that, fair play. But for some reason, you're implicitly taking a victory lap for the fact that the federal govt bought the damn thing! LOL And again, I don't recall any politician actually wanting that, of course, apparently except for this current federal govt. That thing has cost your neighbours (i.e. fellow Canadian taxpayers) something like $30+ billion! They bought the bloody thing (i.e. the existing pipeline for about $4 or $5 billion), paid for the cost of the expansion (which, I believed quadrupled in cost from it's initial construction estimates/budget) AND the taxpayers (if I recall) also compensated the former owners for the delays in construction up to the point where all Canadian taxpayers bought the bloody thing! LOL And I guess the final kick in the gonads to all your neighbours - if the federal govt keeps it's promise to sell the thing as soon as possible after completion. Well, by all accounts, Canadians will not fully recoup everything we paid (i.e. it's looking like it fair market value is less than the taxpayers dollars we all paid to buy/expand the pipeline). TMX is a prime example why govts should NOT try to be "titans of industry" - commercial risk is too great, it should be left in the private sector. After all, if we sell the bloody thing at a loss, that is a prime example of nationalizing the losses while privatizing the profits! LOL When it comes to a commercial endeavor (which entails great downside risk) that risk (and the reward if it comes to fruition) should be left to the private sector.
The federal government got the pipeline done to mollify Alberta and to shore up Canadian unity. It wasn't done because it was going to make profits. It was a political solution for a problem.
I haven’t noticed any particular benefits from the nanny state. Restricts what guns I can buy, forces me to pay a carbon tax that does nothing but drive up the cost of living.
The reason Harper/Kenney/Poilievre couldn't get the pipeline approved is they tried to cut corners with the approval process and the courts blocked it. It was their incompetence that prevented TMX from going ahead.
This is patently false. Kinder Morgan basically got fed up with all the lawsuits (some of which didn't even involve Kinder Morgan, like BC and Alberta basically suing each other) which created additional uncertainty about that commercial project. And KM basically made a demand of the feds - which basically amounted to "give us certainty about a pathway to complete the expansion or we stop." And the feds' response to KM's deadline for certainty was to buy the bloody thing from KM. Which, oddly enough, didn't even stop the lawsuits. After all, when JT/Libs initially approved the pipeline, that decision was taken to court and the court overturned the initial approval. This current govt actually approved the thing twice! Their first approval (when KM owned it) was overturned by the courts. And 2nd approval occurred when we all owned the bloody thing! LOL
Absolutely false! LOL
And since you love presenting CBC articles as your evidence. Here's a nice little CBC timeline.
This article does NOT prove your assertion/claim that...
The courts blocked because the court ruled that the NEB didn't adequately address certain environmental impacts/assessments (I believe mainly due to shipping considerations). And the court also ruled sufficient first nations consultations did not occur. Now, you can argue all you want that somehow this was Harper "cutting corners." But, if you're familiar with the TMX twinning project (which clearly you are NOT). During Harper's time, the federal govt started the consultation process in 2014 (Phase 1 Consultations). There were a total for, if memory serves 3 or 4 phases of first nations consultations, taking the consultation process all the way into 2018. That process included consultations with over 100 first nations groups in BC and AB, 10's of thousands of written submissions, nearly 50 (if memory serves) public consultations, etc., etc., etc. Leading to well over 100 precedent conditions for the project. Now, if you agree with the court that this was NOT enough consultations - so be it. That said, to lay this all on one government that was NOT in power in 2016, 2017 or 2018 - is absolutely nonsensical! LOL Again, the consultation process with first nations groups started in 2014 and concluded in 2018. But of course, everything that happened in 2016, 2017 and 2018 wrt to consultations with first nations group (according to you) was all of Harper's, Kenney's and Poilievre's fault. Because I guess those three were all part of the federal govt in 2016, 17 and 18, right? LOL I mean, if YOU knew Harper's govt wasn't doing "enough" consultations - surely, the Libs when they won in 2015 (at that point) also knew there wasn't sufficient consultations right? Saying nothing for the fact that consultations with first nations don't simply happen on X date - it's a rather fluid/continual process (for lack of a better term), which is why it was still happening after the 2015 election with THIS current lib govt. But of course, never let the truth get in the way of your own narrative that all these failed consultations in 2016, 2017 and 2018 was clearly the fault of a govt that left office in 2015! LOL
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