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Im on board, but that ship sailed long ago. Plus the whole economy is rigged for constant pop growth.
but it's not working, look at the stats, the majority aren't well enough off to even afford to consume anything but the basics, some can't even get them

specially in the rest of the world, which is now coming here

plus, diminishing returns, applies to people, economics

pop growth isn't necessary for economic growth, that's a lie we've been told for decades

innovation, efficiency, tech advances

interprovincial trade alone would increase our GDP by an estimated 3-4%, with no increase in people

the number 1 problem is too many people, all other problems stem from that

which we're experiencing in Canada right now and no one is willing to accept that, too much demand, artificially imported

which is controllable, that ship didn't sail

it's being steered by a idiot with an ideology that is moronic, THE TURD, and supported by the NDP, and somewhat by the Cons too

cause then they don't have to think/work, put policies in place that would force change

small regular economic growth doesn't require anything other than normal pop growth, 2% naturally, which isn't happening cause people aren't

going to have kids when they can't feed/house/save for themselves
 

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house prices didn't start getting out of whack till the early 2000's the last 20 years
In the 80s a 4 bedroom house in Okanogan was about 80,000.00
https://precondo.ca/toronto-real-estate-prices/
Toronto was about 250 - 300,000.00 The greater Toronto area was first, but it had a steady climb since the 1990s. Even in Victoria the prices started to go up in the 1990s. Mostly I think because the real estate people were pushing condos, inciting the commonwealth games were coming. But I think its was the low below prime interest rates and the government pushing home ownership around 2000.
 

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but it's not working, look at the stats, the majority aren't well enough off to even afford to consume anything but the basics, some can't even get them

specially in the rest of the world, which is now coming here

plus, diminishing returns, applies to people, economics

pop growth isn't necessary for economic growth, that's a lie we've been told for decades

innovation, efficiency, tech advances

interprovincial trade alone would increase our GDP by an estimated 3-4%, with no increase in people

the number 1 problem is too many people, all other problems stem from that

which we're experiencing in Canada right now and no one is willing to accept that, too much demand, artificially imported

which is controllable, that ship didn't sail

it's being steered by a idiot with an ideology that is moronic, THE TURD, and supported by the NDP, and somewhat by the Cons too

cause then they don't have to think/work, put policies in place that would force change

small regular economic growth doesn't require anything other than normal pop growth, 2% naturally, which isn't happening cause people aren't

going to have kids when they can't feed/house/save for themselves
I think you are wrong, you forgot the welfare class, they keep having kids.... creating a voting block that keeps giving money to social causes (ie. their welfare check)....
We used to have immigrants that had education and had to have money to come to Canada, so the government didn't have to support them...They could afford to buy their own homes etc.
Now we take in refugees and along within those refugees some terrorists. So the refugees are not well screened at all.

The Liberal socialist leaning ideas of "lets help some refugees" ; the consequences were lack of housing, how to afford them, what jobs are they qualified for.... no forethought....The problem with refugees is that they all congregate to certain places and will become hotbeds of controversy.

I agree open up intra provincial borders. Especially cross connect the electrical grid in Canada.

For transportation, upgrade and expand major cities rapid transit systems (electric trains). Just by looking at a map for the lower mainland trains from Chilliwack/Abbotsford, down #1 to Vancouver. Abbotsford/white rock/delta/Richmond line. \Mission, Maple Ridge, Port Coquitlam, Vancouver. An inner city loop for Vancouver, Richmond, Surrey, Port Coquitlam. Another line from Maple Ridge, Langley, White rock. A bunch of inter looping loops to get any where in the lower mainland.

Victoria needs a train from downtown out to Sidney/Ferries. Downtown , Langford, then to Duncan. A line from sooke to Langford , Colwood, Esquimalt and downtown.
Its funny nobody from the outer communities likes going into Victoria, as it is hard to find parking for cars (a few years ago they put in bike lanes and changed the traffic lights to accommodate this). No new parking garages are being built due to "reducing cars" in the downtown area. When I grew up parking was free everywhere. Now we get loonied and twonied to death with parking fees.

We are gonna have cars at least for another 50 years. There is not enough battery production in the world to support so many electric cars; let alone the electricity to drive them...Every body that has a house would have to have solar panels. So to reduce emissions build a rapid transport system that fucken works for everyone... build carparks etc...
Trains planes and automobiles still are in function....

Increase taxes for corporations. Increase GST to 6%. Tax mineral and precious metals at corporate rate plus 15-70%. Make solar panels and wind farms. Improve the economy, crack down on monopolies, fuck patents (generic products),

The biggest problem Canadians are facing are debts. Mortgages... help Canadians by legislating mortgage loans can only be simple interest. You'll see the debt problem disappear in 15 to 25 years. People could have more money to invest in some infrastucture things like (sky train, high speed transport between cities-Fund me projects).

Revamp the rural construction code to be fire proof buildings in all small towns (cement building(outer walls), with metal roofs and metal siding or cement siding, with outside sprinklers with a 2 X (4 m3) water tanks).

Research Roman concrete -- that shits been standing for about 2000 years now...

The reality is we as Canadians haven't planned that well for our cities, or homes. We take the cheapest route. We need to build for that 1000 year flood. For increase forest fires every year. that super volcanoe, and that large earth quake that will hit Vancouver or Victoria sometime soon... I have I got a tent.... a creek that goes through my property and water filters....
 
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Canada a cuckold entity. Fighting wars for the bad choises of friends. Decades of loosing manufacturing capacity and talented folk.

World War I: Britain's Balfour Agreement with European banks. The law of Empire pulled the rug out from under Palestinians.

World War II: Britain and France sign the Munich Accord. Both committed to war against a force committed to ending Bolshevik communism and avenge murder of millions of eastern Europeans.

Selling out Canadian resources: Canadians looked to be too fierce to let go on their own after WWII. The con job that Canadians didn't need to be providing manufactured goods to the world after being a winner in a major world conflict. Canadians looked the other way while the Canadian officer Corp followed dictates of its oath to the UK monarch as the Empire fell to American business interests that increasingly fell to the same interests that took Palestine away from Palestinians.

Afghanistan: Nothing to do with collapse of World Trade Center buildings September 9, 2001.

Former Yugoslavia: Canadians saw allies live fire on own position to start fight against Serbia to take Kosovo to relocate Afghani allies.

Libya: A war that unleashed a tsunami of migration that upsets European existence.

Ukraine: Global business interests depose, again live fire on own positions to start war and oust legitimately elected government and a replacement that reeks havoc killing 14,000.

Took oath at age 16 for the UK monarch and served it 9 years including 3 in the NATO brigade in Europe. Since then my oath belongs to Canadians. I expect the Canadian officer Corp to do the same and serve the interests of Canadians.
 

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Canada a cuckold entity. Fighting wars for the bad choises of friends. Decades of loosing manufacturing capacity and talented folk.

World War I: Britain's Balfour Agreement with European banks. The law of Empire pulled the rug out from under Palestinians.

World War II: Britain and France sign the Munich Accord. Both committed to war against a force committed to ending Bolshevik communism and avenge murder of millions of eastern Europeans.

Selling out Canadian resources: Canadians looked to be too fierce to let go on their own after WWII. The con job that Canadians didn't need to be providing manufactured goods to the world after being a winner in a major world conflict. Canadians looked the other way while the Canadian officer Corp followed dictates of its oath to the UK monarch as the Empire fell to American business interests that increasingly fell to the same interests that took Palestine away from Palestinians.

Afghanistan: Nothing to do with collapse of World Trade Center buildings September 9, 2001.

Former Yugoslavia: Canadians saw allies live fire on own position to start fight against Serbia to take Kosovo to relocate Afghani allies.

Libya: A war that unleashed a tsunami of migration that upsets European existence.

Ukraine: Global business interests depose, again live fire on own positions to start war and oust legitimately elected government and a replacement that reeks havoc killing 14,000.

Took oath at age 16 for the UK monarch and served it 9 years including 3 in the NATO brigade in Europe. Since then my oath belongs to Canadians. I expect the Canadian officer Corp to do the same and serve the interests of Canadians.

Afghanistan, bullshit, where do you think Bin Laden was operating out of?

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Palestine, there is no such place, there never was, it was a made up name, going back years, never recognized by the international order

and the Arabs/Muslims are the invaders there, the Jews are the Natives, well over 2000 years of reality to back that up

Arabia, is where the Arabs/Muslims are from and everywhere they've invaded, forced their religion/language on those in Asia, look at the current state of things

all the churches that are now mosques

so are you going to address all those places they took away from others?

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Ukraine? what the fuck are you talking about? ousting legitimate gov't? you mean the Russians? the corrupt puppet that used to be there before Zelinsky that Manafort helped steal all that money?
 
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The biggest problem Canadians are facing are debts.
no, the biggest problem is TAXES, it's the biggest bill people face, not just income, but all the other taxes/hidden one's, taxes on taxes, ect......

add to that, incompetent governments, inefficient, complete lack of value for money/taxes

way too many people working for the government, at all levels, making more money than the average taxpayer, better benefits, retirement benefits

while not getting better "services" the mouthpieces for gov't/politicians keep trying to tell us they'd have to cut, cause they can't balance any budgets

do you think you're getting 50% better service from the Feds? cause that's what the Turd increased the payroll by

same with Provinces, they're all increasing the roll

same with Municipal, none want to change
 

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no, the biggest problem is TAXES, it's the biggest bill people face, not just income, but all the other taxes/hidden one's, taxes on taxes, ect......

add to that, incompetent governments, inefficient, complete lack of value for money/taxes

way too many people working for the government, at all levels, making more money than the average taxpayer, better benefits, retirement benefits

while not getting better "services" the mouthpieces for gov't/politicians keep trying to tell us they'd have to cut, cause they can't balance any budgets

do you think you're getting 50% better service from the Feds? cause that's what the Turd increased the payroll by

same with Provinces, they're all increasing the roll

same with Municipal, none want to change

If you don't want to pay taxes, you are free to move to one of those wonderful countries without taxes like Somalia.

What's stopping you?
 
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If you don't want to pay taxes, you are free to move to one of those wonderful countries without taxes like Somalia.

What's stopping you?
Congratulations, dumbest post of the day.

He didn't say he didn't want to pay taxes.

Somalia has personal income taxes, corporate income taxes and a VAT of five percent.

People may or may not pay them, but they have them.

How do you get through the day?

You must have help.
 

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Canada a cuckold entity. Fighting wars for the bad choises of friends. Decades of loosing manufacturing capacity and talented folk.

World War I: Britain's Balfour Agreement with European banks. The law of Empire pulled the rug out from under Palestinians.

World War II: Britain and France sign the Munich Accord. Both committed to war against a force committed to ending Bolshevik communism and avenge murder of millions of eastern Europeans.

Selling out Canadian resources: Canadians looked to be too fierce to let go on their own after WWII. The con job that Canadians didn't need to be providing manufactured goods to the world after being a winner in a major world conflict. Canadians looked the other way while the Canadian officer Corp followed dictates of its oath to the UK monarch as the Empire fell to American business interests that increasingly fell to the same interests that took Palestine away from Palestinians.

Afghanistan: Nothing to do with collapse of World Trade Center buildings September 9, 2001.

Former Yugoslavia: Canadians saw allies live fire on own position to start fight against Serbia to take Kosovo to relocate Afghani allies.

Libya: A war that unleashed a tsunami of migration that upsets European existence.

Ukraine: Global business interests depose, again live fire on own positions to start war and oust legitimately elected government and a replacement that reeks havoc killing 14,000.

Took oath at age 16 for the UK monarch and served it 9 years including 3 in the NATO brigade in Europe. Since then my oath belongs to Canadians. I expect the Canadian officer Corp to do the same and serve the interests of Canadians.
Canadian people being in charge of their destiny. That's nice, only if its true. Its more likely by law that the government of the "King" is the one at the top of this system called Canada. The Canadian people don't count. Why? The problem is not every voice can be heard. So the majority rules through the Parliament, which is controlled by the PM by his majority government. The position of Governor General is a rubber stamp machine. Whatever government its is (Liberal or Conservative), its the same old thing.... over and over again. Apparently the head of the Canadian government is the King, so the oath of allegiance goes to him. Technically the head of all armed forces is answerable to the Governor General, not the PM. The PM controls the military through budgets... Since Trudeau seniors time, the Number of personal and equipment has been cut down.

The people that run the world are the money guys (Banks and multinationals that control trillions of dollars). They need to make profit. What is more profitable then war...They control government through lobbyists and political contributions.

During WW1 the biggest threat to government (monarchies) was communism. It was such a big threat that between WW1 and WW2, it was fascism that was used to fight communism. 1930s Hilter started to build a war machine. When America was preparing for war, Roosevelt made a deal with the industrialists of 10% profit. American companies got rich in profits from WW1 and WW2. America rebuilt Germany and Japan after defeating them. Only after the cold war did Europe kinda kick America out of Europe. The fall of the USSR in 1990s, proved that communism didn't work, Russia turned into a criminal oligarchy, meanwhile alot of Russians migrated out of Russia for better opportunities (I would guess most Russians outside of Russia still support Putin, because it against the western powers of money/capitalism); kinda like us vs them.

The threat of religious intolerance in the Muslim world since the 1980s started with small terrorist activities to gulf war1, 911, invasion of Afghanistan, then Iraq. America won those battles until they withdrew from |raq and Afghanistan. American companies always made big profit from these conflicts.

But where the muslim and western idealogies differ is how they consider patents and who can make things ( manufacturing). So the west and the east bump heads....

The reality today is the conflict is between the haves and the have nots....
 

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Afghanistan, bullshit, where do you think Bin Laden was operating out of?

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Palestine, there is no such place, there never was, it was a made up name, going back years, never recognized by the international order

and the Arabs/Muslims are the invaders there, the Jews are the Natives, well over 2000 years of reality to back that up

Arabia, is where the Arabs/Muslims are from and everywhere they've invaded, forced their religion/language on those in Asia, look at the current state of things

all the churches that are now mosques

so are you going to address all those places they took away from others?

and

Ukraine? what the fuck are you talking about? ousting legitimate gov't? you mean the Russians? the corrupt puppet that used to be there before Zelinsky that Manafort helped steal all that money?
There is more to the type of population in the middle east then that.
There are biblical stories, alot of those are from when the Hebrews were in Babylon. The stories were taken from the archives of the Sumer/Akkad/Assyrians/Babylonians.

With the Late Bronze age Collapse around 1200 BC, there was a 300-400 year so called Dark age. You should read Eric H. Cline books 1177 The year Civilization Collapsed, and After 1177 The Survival of Civilizations.

In the second book, the middle east is between 2 superpowers. Hittites and Eygptians. Their influence over the middle east waned or dissappeared. So Philistines, Phoenicans, Israelites ( Kingdoms of Isreal and Judah), Canaanites, Moab, Ammon, Damascus all had to survive and some did better than others. Although there were many different people and tribes they all lived nearby on the eastern Mediterrean.

The Jews after coming out from Egypt, conquered land in the middle east. See ( Kingdoms of Isreal and Judah). They were forced moved by the Assyrians out of the "palestine"area.
Only after a jewish revolt and their ejection from the middle east , did the roman emperor at the time call the land Palestine.

So the jews were kicked out of "Palestine" 2 times....

Also Muslim is a religion not a people. So the people living in Gaza and the West Bank are Muslims, but not of any specific race/tribe.

PS. The Catholics built churches over religious sites in Mexico, any where the conquistadors went.... maybe we should rip all churches/mosques down and build pyramids....
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On another note, talk about tanking a political party.......got to love Falcon and BC United. I have no idea how that idiot ever thought he could lead a horse to water let alone the Liberals to victory.
 

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If you don't want to pay taxes, you are free to move to one of those wonderful countries without taxes like Somalia.

What's stopping you?

do you read the papers? listen to the media? the internet?

when people coming here from the 3rd world, where it's usually worse than here

talk about going back, due to how much they have to pay in taxes here, which causes the cost of living to be so high

you got a problem

not to mention

only a complete simp would think we've been getting VFM from our taxes

name one thing the feds are doing well?

border, no, defence, no, immigration, no, trade relations, no, could go on but try, just one or two THAT THEY DO WELL, REALLY WELL? TRY

then go to the Provinces, where 2/3rds goes to 2 things, Health/Edumacation

the 2 most bitched about things going

then go to the muni, who do nothing well but clog the streets and hike your property taxes yr after yr with no better services

VFM, no, higher paid employees, more of them

that's what your taxes are getting you, not that you're paying your fair share

CAUSE IF YOU WERE PAYING YOUR TAXES, EVERYONE WAS, THERE WOULD BE NO DEBT OR DEFICITS
 
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On another note, talk about tanking a political party.......got to love Falcon and BC United. I have no idea how that idiot ever thought he could lead a horse to water let alone the Liberals to victory.

at least he eventually did the right thing

he at least deserves credit for that, to take down the left wing zealots from the NDP
 

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he at least deserves credit for that, to take down the left wing zealots from the NDP
Won't work. Too many folks in Vancouver and on the Island find Rustad and his anti-vax, anti-gay freak show off-putting.

The hicks in the interior will send a lot of assholes to the legislature, though.
 

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PRC narcos in Toronto are "command and control" for North American money laundering networks used in TD Bank case: US investigator

"In almost all the investigations as far as money laundering, we’d seize their phones, and see Canada light up like a Christmas tree": State Department official on US banking investigations

SAM COOPER
AUG 29, 2024
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Big Circle Gang leader Tse Chi Lop, a PRC immigrant from Guangdong who is a Canadian citizen, directed global drug trafficking and money laundering operations in North America from his base of Markham, Ont., US investigators say.

Chinese State-Triad Nexus: David Asher claims that Chinese Triads like the 14K and Sun Yee On have been co-opted by the Chinese Communist Party to facilitate global money laundering and drug trafficking.

Toronto Command Center: U.S. investigations indicate that key command-and-control operations for North American money laundering are based in Toronto and other Canadian cities.

Chinese International Students Used as Mules: Tasked within Beijing’s foreign influence arm, the United Front Work Department, Chinese students are systematically used to deposit fentanyl cash for Triads and Mexican cartels into North American banks, Asher said.

TD Bank Under Fire: TD Bank's alleged involvement in laundering fentanyl-related funds has triggered regulatory and criminal investigations that could cost TD more than $4 billion, but Asher suggests this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Major U.S. Banks: Investigators believe financial institutions have been allowing internationals “from China on student visas to drop billions of dollars a month into all of the biggest banks in the U.S.,” Asher said.

Canada’s Inaction: Asher criticizes the Canadian government for inadequate cooperation in the Tse Chi Lop and broader fentanyl-trafficking and Triad money laundering investigations and suggests possible political and financial influences are hampering effective law enforcement.

Fentanyl Crisis Link: The failure to disrupt these networks is contributing to the ongoing fentanyl crisis, which claims tens of thousands of lives annually in the U.S. and Canada.

Beijing Subsidizing Meth Trafficking: Asher disclosed that U.S. Congressional investigators allege the People’s Republic is not only incentivizing fentanyl precursor exports but also methamphetamine sales.

Call for Action: Asher, currently a Senior Fellow with the Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C., calls for stronger international cooperation and more aggressive action to dismantle these sophisticated transnational criminal networks.

Lenghty article. Only read first few paragraphs:
https://www.thebureau.news/p/prc-na...mand?r=l2dv4&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
 

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PRC narcos in Toronto are "command and control" for North American money laundering networks used in TD Bank case: US investigator

"In almost all the investigations as far as money laundering, we’d seize their phones, and see Canada light up like a Christmas tree": State Department official on US banking investigations

SAM COOPER
AUG 29, 2024
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Big Circle Gang leader Tse Chi Lop, a PRC immigrant from Guangdong who is a Canadian citizen, directed global drug trafficking and money laundering operations in North America from his base of Markham, Ont., US investigators say.

Chinese State-Triad Nexus: David Asher claims that Chinese Triads like the 14K and Sun Yee On have been co-opted by the Chinese Communist Party to facilitate global money laundering and drug trafficking.

Toronto Command Center: U.S. investigations indicate that key command-and-control operations for North American money laundering are based in Toronto and other Canadian cities.

Chinese International Students Used as Mules: Tasked within Beijing’s foreign influence arm, the United Front Work Department, Chinese students are systematically used to deposit fentanyl cash for Triads and Mexican cartels into North American banks, Asher said.

TD Bank Under Fire: TD Bank's alleged involvement in laundering fentanyl-related funds has triggered regulatory and criminal investigations that could cost TD more than $4 billion, but Asher suggests this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Major U.S. Banks: Investigators believe financial institutions have been allowing internationals “from China on student visas to drop billions of dollars a month into all of the biggest banks in the U.S.,” Asher said.

Canada’s Inaction: Asher criticizes the Canadian government for inadequate cooperation in the Tse Chi Lop and broader fentanyl-trafficking and Triad money laundering investigations and suggests possible political and financial influences are hampering effective law enforcement.

Fentanyl Crisis Link: The failure to disrupt these networks is contributing to the ongoing fentanyl crisis, which claims tens of thousands of lives annually in the U.S. and Canada.

Beijing Subsidizing Meth Trafficking: Asher disclosed that U.S. Congressional investigators allege the People’s Republic is not only incentivizing fentanyl precursor exports but also methamphetamine sales.

Call for Action: Asher, currently a Senior Fellow with the Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C., calls for stronger international cooperation and more aggressive action to dismantle these sophisticated transnational criminal networks.

Lenghty article. Only read first few paragraphs:
https://www.thebureau.news/p/prc-na...mand?r=l2dv4&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Some of this would explain million dollar crackshacks in Canada being bought while seaside housing in California for about the same price sits empty - the investigative power of the FBI and the Fed are quite a detterent.
 
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