Why would you refuse basic screening with a reputable provider?

[kelcaine]

Well, now since I made this slip up of having a non blurred photo of myself here for my profile photo, someone sent sent me messages through a texting app trying to book me, then called me by my actual name, sent the exact same photo that was my profile photo here through text, and has been harassing and threatening to out me all day.

If this was one of the members here, this is absolutely unacceptable behaviour, and this is just one reason why I don’t book through texting apps unless they confirm a real number of through their PERB account. This is not the first attempted fake booking or harassment I have had through a texting app.

I do appreciate everyone’s input here though as I truly wanted to know the clients side on this topic, and do understand why many would be put off by more intense screening like asking for ID or their LinkedIn and other more personal details, which is why I personally don’t use this for my clients. I just am surprised sometimes when someone is intent on using a texting app opposed to an actual phone or not giving their name (not full name just first name). So thanks to those who commented. I appreciate your viewpoints and time.

 

[UhOh]

The risk/reward math just doesn’t add up. There is nothing to gain by providing any personal information. I’ll simply move on to the next provider not requiring such level of screening.

 

[YaletownFuckboi]

I just am surprised sometimes when someone is intent on using a texting app opposed to an actual phone

probably because you can usually find out someones full name with their phone number:
-maybe its connected through their work
- maybe its connected through their social media,
-maybe its connected through some app they used once
-maybe they sold something online once and its connected through there
-maybe their name pops up if you google their phone number

using a real number is essentially giving their full name. id suggest guys either use a burner phone or text app. or if you have a vpn, switch it to the US and look into google voice numbers. or simply use email.
also alot of providers say "no text app" but then you text them with a text app, and they dont care or dont know.

 

[kelcaine]

probably because you can usually find out someones full name with their phone number:
-maybe its connected through their work
- maybe its connected through their social media,
-maybe its connected through some app they used once
-maybe they sold something online once and its connected through there
-maybe their name pops up if you google their phone number

using a real number is essentially giving their full name. id suggest guys either use a burner phone or text app. or if you have a vpn, switch it to the US and look into google voice numbers. or simply use email.
also alot of providers say "no text app" but then you text them with a text app, and they dont care or dont know.

I said first name and phone number. I personally have an IT background as I graduated from BCIT’s technical web design program a few years ago, and I worked in the IT field for a while, and as an office administrator for an IT company. You would need to have a really extensive technological background and a lot of time on your hands to find that much information about a person just with their name and phone number.

My initial post was asking why people don’t want to provide their first name and phone number, too, just basic information.

I can fully understand why someone would be apprehensive with giving more information, including their full name or pieces of ID. I also understand things from a providers perspective as well and I made this post because I was interested to see clients perspectives on this, too.

 

[MB Mod]

You would need to have a really extensive technological background and a lot of time on your hands to find that much information about a person just with their name and phone number.

There’s a lot of people on this board who have a great deal of free time on their hands, trust me

 

[YaletownFuckboi]

I said first name and phone number. I personally have an IT background as I graduated from BCIT’s technical web design program a few years ago, and I worked in the IT field for a while, and as an office administrator for an IT company. You would need to have a really extensive technological background and a lot of time on your hands to find that much information about a person just with their name and phone number.

No you wouldnt need an "extensive technological background" or "alot of time on your hands" to find that much information

It can be as simple as opening a commonly used app on your phone and going to "find my contacts" . or even typing the phone number into search engines. theres other simple ways too. would take less than 5 minutes, and the average 9th grader today could probably figure it out.

If you want to make an argument from authority fallacy, with your "IT background" , i'll come back at you , that I work in financial tech, and my position is high enough that I would never need to escort, because that would be a significant downgrade in my annual income. not that you need any sort of technological background to do this. Im also in my 20s still, technology is second nature in my generation, and clearly isnt in yours

 

[OF_manager]

You would need to have a really extensive technological background and a lot of time on your hands to find that much information about a person just with their name and phone number.

No way, most people under 35 could easily do that in just a few minutes without any tech experience, just by using technology casually.
Also it's strange to brag about having a piece of paper from BCIT, because even people with master's degrees in computer technology often find that what they learned in school is outdated by the time they finish.

Anyways, maybe we shouldn't listen to tech and privacy advice from a baby boomer who can't even properly blur their face in photos 😂

 

[kelcaine]

No you wouldnt need an "extensive technological background" or "alot of time on your hands" to find that much information

It can be as simple as opening a commonly used app on your phone and going to "find my contacts" . or even typing the phone number into search engines. theres other simple ways too. would take less than 5 minutes, and the average 9th grader today could probably figure it out.

If you want to make an argument from authority fallacy, with your "IT background" , i'll come back at you , that I work in financial tech, and my position is high enough that I would never need to escort, because that would be a significant downgrade in my annual income. not that you need any sort of technological background to do this. Im also in my 20s still, technology is second nature in my generation, and clearly isnt in yours

Using someone’s first name and phone number, yes you would need quite the background in tech. With a full name yes it would be easier to find more information. But do you really think that most escorts who have built a good name for themselves would be nefarious enough to do such a thing? Yes there are scammers and criminals who have infiltrated the industry who may, but there’s few that would. When giving out your business cards/business information to strangers you meet to network do you not think this could happen as well? To meeting random women at a bar or club?

I guess we should all be careful who we give out our information to these days.

Also, I don’t “need” to escort. I choose to escort. I love my job, and make more money doing this than when I was an educator or worked in IT, and again I am grateful that I enjoy having sex with strangers, and my job overall as a provider. I also do other part time work too, and again very thankful to enjoy all of my work I do.

 

[kelcaine]

No way, most people under 35 could easily do that in just a few minutes without any tech experience, just by using technology casually.
Also it's strange to brag about having a piece of paper from BCIT, because even people with master's degrees in computer technology often find that what they learned in school is outdated by the time they finish.

Anyways, maybe we shouldn't listen to tech and privacy advice from a baby boomer who can't even properly blur their face in photos 😂

I wasn’t bragging. Mentioning ones educational background isn’t bragging. I felt it was relevant to this conversation as I do have an IT background.

I am not a baby boomer, lol. I’m a millennial, and I do properly blur my face, I accidentally uploaded a non blurred photo to my profile here, and didn’t notice it was like that for a couple of days. I’m human and make mistakes just like everyone else. Maybe my mind was elsewhere when finding out a friend of mine passed away recently. Again I’m human.

 

[YaletownFuckboi]

Using someone’s first name and phone number, yes you would need quite the background in tech. With a full name yes it would be easier to find more information. But do you really think that most escorts who have built a good name for themselves would be nefarious enough to do such a thing? Yes there are scammers and criminals who have infiltrated the industry who may, but there’s few that would. When giving out your business cards/business information to strangers you meet to network do you not think this could happen as well? To meeting random women at a bar or club?

I guess we should all be careful who we give out our information to these days.

Also, I don’t “need” to escort. I choose to escort. I love my job, and make more money doing this than when I was an educator or worked in IT, and again I am grateful that I enjoy having sex with strangers, and my job overall as a provider. I also do other part time work too, and again very thankful to enjoy all of my work I do.

No, just the number.

You're line of thinking and argument is basically that if YOU are unable to do something, then no one else can do it.

This is pointless, because you ignored all the examples I gave of how someone could do this task easily and quickly, even without any special skills.

You questioned why a provider would do something like that, but many people in this conversation have shared stories of seeing "reputable providers" behaving in this way.

People I network with, do business with, or girls I meet at the bar, arent witnessing me participate in an illegal activity such as hiring an escort is.

dunning-kruger effect on display once again on perb.

 

[kelcaine]

No, just the number.

You're line of thinking and argument is basically that if YOU are unable to do something, then no one else can do it.

This is pointless, because you ignored all the examples I gave of how someone could do this task easily and quickly, even without any special skills.

You questioned why a provider would do something like that, but many people in this conversation have shared stories of seeing "reputable providers" behaving in this way.

People I network with, do business with, or girls I meet at the bar, arent witnessing me participate in an illegal activity such as hiring an escort is.

dunning-kruger effect on display once again on perb.

I never said I’m unable to do this, I’m just saying more of the general population can’t do this or would not think of doing this.

I didn’t ignore your examples. Yes I have read what others have said here and as I said before I appreciate hearing from the side of clients and their experiences and perspectives.

I have worked in the corporate world and if you think there isn’t illegal or illicit activities going on in it, then you don’t know that world. You don’t think some girls you meet at a bar aren’t involved in any illegal activities? Oh and escorting is not illegal. It’s not decriminalized, but not illegal.

 

[Ickypootang]

Oh and escorting is not illegal. It’s not decriminalized, but not illegal.

"...Hiring an escort is."

I think you misread that.

 

[YaletownFuckboi]

I never said I’m unable to do this, I’m just saying more of the general population can’t do this or would not think of doing this.

I didn’t ignore your examples. Yes I have read what others have said here and as I said before I appreciate hearing from the side of clients and their experiences and perspectives.

I have worked in the corporate world and if you think there isn’t illegal or illicit activities going on in it, then you don’t know that world. You don’t think some girls you meet at a bar aren’t involved in any illegal activities? Oh and escorting is not illegal. It’s not decriminalized, but not illegal.

I don't think you can have a sensible, rational discussion. I also don't think you can learn from or consider different viewpoints.
plus the paranoia and victimhood mentality coming from you is a bit concerning.

 

[kelcaine]

I don't think you can have a sensible, rational discussion. I also don't think you can learn from or consider different viewpoints.
plus the paranoia and victimhood mentality coming from you is a bit concerning.

You’re the one arguing with me and making snarky remarks. I have listened to others viewpoints here. You seem to be the one not listening to me, or engaging in respectful debate. Gaslighting me won’t work either. I’ll end this discussion by wishing you well and having a good day.

 

[MB Mod]

That’s it this thread is done!