Do you even like women?

[LC18]

I would like to start by saying that if I didn’t like perb, I wouldn’t be on here every other day.

With that being said, a lot of you will routinely ask in person or on the forum “why do girls seem to hate review boards so much?”

It’s more than just the reviews, a lot of women value discretion and having reviews about you just confirm that you are doing sex work. They can be used as proof when travelling to the US for exemple.

Beyond the reviews, some users of this website speak about women with so much violence and dehumanizing approches. It’s human nature to generalize and I know that those isolated threads have gained you the reputation of being very antiwomen. For that reason, many SPs simply do not feel welcomed or safe advertising, replying or even just browsing.

I have a few times attempted to bring some of my colleagues, the “ask us anything” thread was yet another attempt.

Even without an account, it is possible to read some of the content on this website and truly sometimes it makes us wonder “do you even like women?”

I’m very happy when I see fellow members replying with “hey dude chill” “no need to insult so&so” and whatnot.

Once again, I would just like to point out that if I didn’t like this website I wouldn’t come on here that often. I just try my best to ignore certain people.

 

[Equity Market investor]

I try and go by the biblical saying --- treat others as you would like to be treated. The internet has given birth to trolls beyond imagination. It's unfortunate when you read woman in this trade avoiding sites for the reasons you mention. Real sad. Why people act like trolls online? Oh, I dunno....maybe it allows them to have their 15 minutes of fame due to their own " real life " troubles? A disturbed life? Attention and jealousy, or maybe it's just childish behavior for all reasons mentioned? Could be culture reasons too? I work with some " cultured " guys who detest and treat woman like crap because of their upbringing an background. Yes...sad and true.

And for the record. To the OP ..... I love woman and respect them with honesty and friendly.

 

[Dick Ford]

Some men are so obssessed with getting their money's worth, or not getting played or not getting ripped off, that they forget about the real human connection they're paying for, and the real human waiting on the other side of that door. Sure, it doesn't always work out, and sometimes you're just not compatible, but is that always on them and not you? And is it really worth it to voice those frustrations on this very public forum to give yourself a fleeting moment of satisfaction?
We could all do with a look in the mirror at times and think a bit more about how we treat these women, and really how we treat all people we encounter in this thing called life. Lead with love and you can never go wrong.

 

[westwoody]

As Dick Ford says, some worry too much about losing money. If everything doesn’t go their way they take it personally and get all butthurt.
#1 this is a risky business
#2 nothing in life is guaranteed
#3 if you cannot accept risk, or cannot afford a failure, don’t do this
#4 don’t blame your failures on someone else if you have repeated fails with highly reviewed ladies maybe you are the problem, not them

 

[Forum mod]

There are some guys, many of whom have been banned more times than I can count who clearly have issues. They objectify and denigrate women at basically every opportunity. They have very little in the way of empathy or feelings, of any kind save anger, hate and misogyny. The terms they use are often gross and insulting. They are the worst example of toxic men, and I often think sex for them is a power move and not much else. They end up banned because they can't or won't act like adults, or even a human being and as long as they keep coming back, we will keep banning them.

The locker room mentality is so 2005. Now is the time to share truthful information in an open and honest way. Even bad reviews can be done with class and dignity of all parties being maintained. That's a lofty aspiration perhaps, but it's one the community should always strive for and zero tolerance for the incel/misogynist clowns who need therapy more than they need to get laid. Ok, that was a bit of a rant, but it's proven all too true lately here.

 

[rinamood]

One of my motivators to be on here is to protect myself from slander. There are some people who don't like me because I have refused them for my own safety. Being here, people know not to fuck around with me. Most are nice about me even when I'm away 🍀 Even when I'm away from promoting here, I'm watching for the safety of myself and my dear friends.

Seeing misogynistic rhetoric seems to be almost a daily thing here nowadays, but people shrug it off as "that's just their opinions/preference". When we break women down into stereotypes and stigmas on their age, their race, and their level of tattoo coverage, to the extent of actually saying nasty things.... Well, I'm reminded that people lose their ability to see us ladies as humans sometimes. There's a difference between looking for certain attributes, and putting down others for wanting different. How silly would it be to have a person seeking flatchests only to have the thread be filled with hate for even wanting such a thing? That would be so strange, but I've had fans tell me they do experience this among their peers 🤯

They say to treat people the way you want to be treated. They say if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. There's a proper expectation of decency in rating how one's service and looks align with preferences and I think reviews have looked reasonable even with caveats, but when it gets to discussions? It feels like that goes out the window and the misogyny rises with great volume. This is a good topic to bring up with recent threads having gotten out of hand 🙏 Thank you for doing this 💐

 

[FreeG]

IN GENERAL, forums have been helpful to me in the far past. When I knew absolutely nothing, it was useful to see other people's experiences so many (not all) my initial experiences were pretty positive. TER was one that I used... now I regret it because i see how objectifying and even degrading the reviews can be there. I know some women don't mind them, and some even enjoy them, but I prefer to default to what would be well received by many.

I do see the mods are tending towards a better atmosphere here. Its still disappointing to see some folks I respect get kicked off/banned for their opinions, its disappointing to see mysoginy still present, and its disappointing that SW's perspectives/rights aren't more broad or welcoming. And I sense the exhaustion from SW's of combating every single "what-about-ism" raised by the thick-headed, and the overall lack of respect to women & fellow humans in general. Personally, I also tire of the 'white knight' BS thrown at anyone who stands up for women/SW. Its tiring, pathetic, and boorish.

I applaud @LC18 for raising good topics and keeping such open dialogues. We can't expect every SW will do so, so I think its extra important for eveyrone to be respectful when SW's do speak up and share on here.

 

[wincity23]

Being new to this in 2023, i have found these forums invaluable. However, i've refrained from reviewing for my own reasons and have learned to be highly suspect of anyone's postings that clearly do not align with mine. It might be a sad statement, but i don't see any more misogyny on here than what you can find anywhere or in a personal convo. That's the major problem. At least online, there's usually a handy block or mute option-i wish i had that in RL

 

[Bizzaynass]

I love woman.

Just not a big fan of woman who try to false advertise and get upset when men acknowledge and point out their deception. also not a big fan of woman who are hateful towards men and get upset at men for having standards or preferences. or ones who engage in the exact same stereotyping and hateful behaviour they are accusing others of. I will continue to be honest with my reviews of SP's, and thats not because im scared of "wasting money" I have more than enough money. I just dont like wasting my time, and I dont particularly like having to go through with sessions were I feel as if I have been deceived, it makes me feel gross, and like my consent isnt respected.

As much as some of my comments and reviews on here may be viewed as harsh, and I will acknowledge that I sometimes cross the line, I know for a fact that every SP I have seen has been treated with absolute kindness and respect. I have been told by many of SP's that I am one of if not their favourite client, that im a breath of fresh air, and that im a nice break from some of their other clients. have also been told by girls at different agencies who I havent seen before that other girls at the agency have told them about me and that im known as the favourite client who all the girls are hoping I will book with them. I also take extra precaution to make sure my perb handle can never be connected to my phone number or identity.

As far as the white knight comments ect. I have been told by many of woman, both SP's and civillian girls , that the white knights and, simpy guys tend to be the creepiest of men. Makes sense, its a deceptive sexual strategy, kind of like when you meet someone who tells you "how nice of a guy they are" they usually are a huge asshole. if your truly a nice guy, you dont have to say it. Ive had girls tell me some of the guys who write the most glowing reviews on here were the ones who had the least respect for their boundaries, consent and treated them like an object.

Theres plenty of guys who can only get laid via this hobby, and it shows in the way they navigate this forum.

Obviously people are in this hobby for different reasons, when it comes down to it, looks are at the forefront of what I am looking for , I do value a connection and a warm friendly lady who I get along with, but if the looks arent there, I might as well just be friends with them and not be paying them for sex. thats why I believe its fair to be honest with reviews.

plus I have talked to alot of members in the DM's who will write a glowing review publicly but its not soo positive in the privacy of the DM's

The irony here is hilarious

 

[Lets Review]

Do SWs even like men?

 

[Crookedmember]

Could you imagine if the ladies had a review board for customers?

Crookedmember came to see me today, and it was a day of infamy.

Crooked appears to stand about 5'1", but this may be an illusion fostered by his beer belly that seemingly stretches from sea to shining sea.

Personal hygiene was suspect, and Crooked smelled like--I struggle for words here--a Chinese restaurant after a bad kitchen fire.

His darting glass eye is just plain creepy.

After finally motivating his sloppy three inches of manhood to stand at some semblance of attention, the actual sex was something akin to being mauled by a hungry marmot. Only messier.

Repeat? You couldn't get me drunk enough.

 

[VinVan]

how ? explain

Well, my interpretation is something like this: to start, the description under your handle is a pejorative that I’m guessing most women would find grossly misogynistic. I may be running in the wrong circles, but I’ve not met too many women who wish to be addressed as “Hoe.”

 

[TallDark&Handsome]

Do SWs even like men?

I would say all of the woman who are constantly active on perb with the exception of @LC18 seem to have a deepseated hatred of men, the misandry , resentment, and dehumanizing is palpable.

I used to work in the nightlife and hospitality industry, met alot of SP's though my time in it. I would say 90% absolutely hate their clients and men in general. the other 10% were just nymphos who loved sex.

 

[Real Sonny Burnett]

Woman- singular. Women- plural.

 

[littleasiancock]

as a short , scrawny, introverted asian man, woman dont even treat me like im a human being. even woman I pay to like me often just laugh when they first see me and make condescending comments.

I like woman despite this.

escorts have been the least friendly type of woman to me, yet I do not hate or resent them, I will keep trying, some treat me nice, most do not.

 

[LC18]

Thank you for not derailing this thread, please remain respectful when you share your opinions. Not everyone will agree with you and that’s ok.

 

[reader69]

I like women that provide what they are advertising after getting the amount of money (and proper treatment and hygiene) they asked for.

 

[westwoody]

Could you imagine if the ladies had a review board for customers?

What makes you think they don’t?

 

[VanCityNewb]

Ever since college, I’ve firmly believed that like 60-80% of guys are just trash and don’t know how to behave towards women. And certainly a few of them in this thread easily fall in there. Especially in this field, a lot of guys just want to feel superior to someone, and it makes it easy for them to show up thinking that they can treat women as lesser. Quite a lot of BS to have to put up with.

 

[TallDark&Handsome]

What makes you think they don’t?

they definitely do trade notes, have group chats, and discuss certain clients. ive seen it, and been shown it.
do they have a review board? not that im aware of haha, but I wouldnt be surprised if they have something like that.
theres different cliques of providers though, and I know some cliques and girls really dont like other cliques and girls in the industry. then theres the "lone wolf" types.

wouldnt be surprised if theres something similar to those "are we dating the same guys" facebook groups. those groups are way way harsher than anything on this review board.