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I pay for a lot of things. I pay for the opportunity to be with a beautiful woman. I pay for a woman who is showing me affection. I pay for an opportunity to live out a few fantasies. I pay to have a conversation. I pay to touch someone beautiful. And most importantly, I pay for having intimacy because my wife - a cancer survivor, through no fault of her own, is unable to engage in sex. A loser? Perhaps. But it helps to keep me balanced and not go off the deep end.
 

Bobert1969

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Lollll, woooo.... I'm a loser, 35 with a 7 figure bank acct....#winning 😅😅 (not sayin this to brag)


Plenty of worthy females that value your time and company around... Move on from this nut case
/\This. Well said.
 

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I've never gotten anything close to that vibe from a provider, but I've gotten it from civilian women.

Seeing providers is what gave me the confidence to pursue a relationship, but having seen providers seems to have disqualified me from dating - at the very least, it's been an issue that torpedoed every relationship I've pursued. So it's a Catch-22.
Wait... how has it torpedoed your relationships?
 
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Dude, I've heard it all from providers.

"Only losers pay for sex"
"I hate all men."
"Wow, hobbyists are so shit like 99% of the time."
"Fucking limp dicked incels. All of them."
etc,.

These are direct quotes from providers who still advertise on Perb/Leo/Tryst.
There are all sorts of personalities that get into the business, and there are those that do deeply resent their clients/men. And to be fair, anyone who has ever held a job eventually resents their client/managemement. This scenario runs deeper though.

Personally, I try not to see these providers because if they're traumatized enough to openly express these opinions, I don't want to add to their trauma. My personal "do no see" list is basically a list of providers who have went on to tell the world or me directly how much they hate/loathe their clientele.

Does their opinion hurt me? A little bit. I mean, I openly admit I don't have the maturity, skills, or charm to meet and be with women the conventional way. I can't take it too personally since its an over-arching narrative in their head that I don't really get a voice in. If they're not happy with me, then I just remove myself from the equation. Find someone who hopefully doesn't mind my company.
Yeah I have heard similar things from providers, I know a few through the party scene in this city and they dont know I participate in this hobby, they mock and belittle their clients all the time, they all have very positive reviews on here.
I also follow quite a few providers on social media, and alot of them bash men and brag about being misandrists.
yet you still see so many guys simping here and thinking they have some deep connection with the girl. its kind of sad.
I think the guys here who treat this hobby as more than what it is , which is simply just paying for sex, might want to reevaluate themselves.
This is why I never understand why so many guys are paying for multi hour sessions, if she liked you, she would offer to spend time with you unpaid, and thats happened to me before, and I know its happened to many other guys in this hobby, Im guessing those guys are just less vocal on the review boards or dont post at all.
30-60 minute sessions are enough for me, I dont need the social interaction or connection, I have enough of that outside the hobby. This hobby is about sex for me.
 

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I asked her if she provided greek after the session was done ( was wondering for next time ).. not even in a rude way ( Well i did say anal ). This triggered her for some reason, and it escalated from there.
"Not even in a rude way"
"Well I did say anal"
Is it possible she was setting boundaries the whole time that you glossed over and this final rude question pushed her over an edge?
Like you said something "triggered her in some way" so I doubt this came down to just this one question. I could be wrong. I'm curious on her perspective now.
 

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I don't have a long shelf life in relationships. I don't even like to take a long drive with anyone. Even 3 hrs is too long with someone.

So I see providers. I have come to realize it is who I am. Some of us just suck at being with someone.
If you tell yourself over and over that you cannot do something eventually it does become a self fulfilling prophecy...
 
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"Not even in a rude way"
"Well I did say anal"
Is it possible she was setting boundaries the whole time that you glossed over and this final rude question pushed her over an edge?
Like you said something "triggered her in some way" so I doubt this came down to just this one question. I could be wrong. I'm curious on her perspective now.
Well she did say she did anal before, so i asked her after if she would do it again for a price... Who cares, the point is she said only losers pay for sex.. Thats all im saying.
 
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Yeah I have heard similar things from providers, I know a few through the party scene in this city and they dont know I participate in this hobby, they mock and belittle their clients all the time, they all have very positive reviews on here.
I also follow quite a few providers on social media, and alot of them bash men and brag about being misandrists.
yet you still see so many guys simping here and thinking they have some deep connection with the girl. its kind of sad.
I think the guys here who treat this hobby as more than what it is , which is simply just paying for sex, might want to reevaluate themselves.
This is why I never understand why so many guys are paying for multi hour sessions, if she liked you, she would offer to spend time with you unpaid, and thats happened to me before, and I know its happened to many other guys in this hobby, Im guessing those guys are just less vocal on the review boards or dont post at all.
30-60 minute sessions are enough for me, I dont need the social interaction or connection, I have enough of that outside the hobby. This hobby is about sex for me.
It is sad.. I already notice the simps and white knights on this post.
 

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The thing about escorts is you can get your fix of things non industry girls find a bit too prudish.
Tired of putting it in the same hole, in the mood for anal, cim, cum on face…, get your fill of any of that and just leave.
You get what you want, the girls gets compensated, you both get on with your day.
 

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Yeah I have heard similar things from providers, I know a few through the party scene in this city and they dont know I participate in this hobby, they mock and belittle their clients all the time, they all have very positive reviews on here.
I also follow quite a few providers on social media, and alot of them bash men and brag about being misandrists.
yet you still see so many guys simping here and thinking they have some deep connection with the girl. its kind of sad.
I think the guys here who treat this hobby as more than what it is , which is simply just paying for sex, might want to reevaluate themselves.
This is why I never understand why so many guys are paying for multi hour sessions, if she liked you, she would offer to spend time with you unpaid, and thats happened to me before, and I know its happened to many other guys in this hobby, Im guessing those guys are just less vocal on the review boards or dont post at all.
30-60 minute sessions are enough for me, I dont need the social interaction or connection, I have enough of that outside the hobby. This hobby is about sex for me.
Absolute hard truth, thanks for putting this into words.
 
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[QUOTE="baconcheeseburger, post: 2481121, member: 234298"

This is why I never understand why so many guys are paying for multi hour sessions, if she liked you, she would offer to spend time with you unpaid, and thats happened to me before, and I know its happened to many other guys in this hobby, Im guessing those guys are just less vocal on the review boards or dont post at all.
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Perhaps some of the guys who book multiple hrs know full well it’s a fantasy/ act but are more or less ok w it if that’s the best option they have .
We are after all human , have you seen what happens to some of the incels after yrs of no pleasant interaction w women ?

Also I preface by saying that this is no way white knighting but if they are out partying on the weekends maybe that speaks to the fact that perhaps the providers you mentioned are simply different types of people period than say a provider who lives a pretty standard domestic style life outside of her work.
And I say that as someone who used to party 3-5 nights per week for close to ten yrs .
 
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I don't view it as such. Simple business transaction, plain and simple. Fortunately, it's all been civil between me and ladies I've seen, even if the session wasn't great.
 
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I used to identify as a misandrist (which I don’t really think is a thing kinda like reverse racism but that’s a whole other can of worms). I was explaining to a client recently that I’ve transitioned from expecting nothing because I’ve been disappointed so many times to truly thinking men can do better. I believe in men and I think you can all put in the effort to raise the bar. Men are dynamic, adaptable, and capable.

…he said that was worse. 😂
 

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We all pay for sex, the method and currency varies. Dating - the dinners, shows, trips, etc pay for it. Marriage - the house, kids, cars etc pay for it.
At a later point in life, when I have the itch for something different occasionally, an SP is a far cheaper option than an affair
I’ve actually almost never dated a dude richer than me in my civ life because in my experience I find they’re SO much more emotionally demanding. They always act so entitled to everything because they’ve paid and feel that they own me. I’d rather be the breadwinner or on par and share or get my own shit.
 

vanperb

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They're never, ever cool with it. Once they find out I've slept with providers they're no longer interested.
Um... don't share. I don't even know how it comes up in conversation.
If they ever ask "Have you ever been with a hooker/escort?" say "No, but I respect their rights to make a living as sex workers." Then ask them if they're hungry. It's a no win topic.
 

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I used to identify as a misandrist (which I don’t really think is a thing kinda like reverse racism but that’s a whole other can of worms). I was explaining to a client recently that I’ve transitioned from expecting nothing because I’ve been disappointed so many times to truly thinking men can do better. I believe in men and I think you can all put in the effort to raise the bar. Men are dynamic, adaptable, and capable.

…he said that was worse. 😂
Just curious, what are the things the men you experienced did wrong and what should they have done instead to meet those expectations of doing better?
 
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