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The Jordan Peterson 's social media "reeducation". I believe he is taking the bastards to court....
He's been back and forth to courts ever since the first anyone heard of him.
However, he's become more and more of a paid partisan demogogue rather than the critical thinker he once was (and got in trouble for).
I was in the bookstore last week, and saw a book by Jody Wilson-Raybould "Indian in Cabinet". Thou I though it would be better Called "How I got bend over and fucked by the PM".
Nothing new as the tactics were the same. Let the minister take the blame and loose their political career.
Nothing new as the tactics were the same. Let the minister take the blame and loose their political career.
I'm curious to what people think of BC's bill C-36? I feel we are going to lose a lot of Drs.
https://www.leg.bc.ca/parliamentary...ament/3rd-session/bills/first-reading/gov36-1
https://www.leg.bc.ca/parliamentary...ament/3rd-session/bills/first-reading/gov36-1
Plays the professional victim card constantly yet claims to be free thinking individual.
Total fuckup in his own life but gets suckers to buy his self help books.
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You are correct. I did not read the whole thing, or anything beyond the table of contents, in order to guess which particular legal clauses or specific issues are alarming to you.
Okay then. I suppose it is mainly this:
So they may no longer spread, produce, or base their medical practice upon medical disinformation (be it scams or unscientific conspiracy theories, anti-vaxxer propaganda, etc.) ? Subject to a big fine or removal from practice, it looks like.
It also seems to cover the use of false credentials, in the same context. Basically takes aim at purveyors of false info in the health care field.
Seems like a crack down. (or a quack-down ?
)I think you should let doctors regulate themselves. Having the government interfere, saying you have to live by all these new rules, really puts a pinch in free speech and actions a doctor could make. The problem is the "doctor's group", when the board has to disipline someone, they rarely do.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/court-repatriate-canadian-syria-1.6721524
So the court ordered the Cdn gov to bring back these Isis members. I think the judge went too far, yes maybe their "charter of rights and freedoms" are being violated, but that can only happen in the jurisdiction of Canada. Unless Canada has the muscle (military might) to force another country to do something. (Usually Canada just gives that country a big monetary bribe).
These idiots went to join a foreign terrorist organization and expect the "Canadian charter of rights and freedoms" to protect them.
No FUCKEN Way! Just because their Mamas back home are "crying" because they miss their sons... Too fucken bad, they should of raised them better than to join foreign terrorist organization.
Let them rot in jail.
But lets look at it another way, they joined ISIS and choose to fuck other people out of their "human rights". Why should they now have human rights now?
Also the issue that the courts can order the government to do stuff that the court is not fiscally responsible for. Courts are getting to powerful against governments and the people in general. Look at Roe vs Wade in the US. Because of political beliefs the US supreme court overturned a woman's right to an abortion.
Here in Canada, it is starting to look like that a person's individual right overrides government function and control.
So the court ordered the Cdn gov to bring back these Isis members. I think the judge went too far, yes maybe their "charter of rights and freedoms" are being violated, but that can only happen in the jurisdiction of Canada. Unless Canada has the muscle (military might) to force another country to do something. (Usually Canada just gives that country a big monetary bribe).
These idiots went to join a foreign terrorist organization and expect the "Canadian charter of rights and freedoms" to protect them.
No FUCKEN Way! Just because their Mamas back home are "crying" because they miss their sons... Too fucken bad, they should of raised them better than to join foreign terrorist organization.
Let them rot in jail.
But lets look at it another way, they joined ISIS and choose to fuck other people out of their "human rights". Why should they now have human rights now?
Also the issue that the courts can order the government to do stuff that the court is not fiscally responsible for. Courts are getting to powerful against governments and the people in general. Look at Roe vs Wade in the US. Because of political beliefs the US supreme court overturned a woman's right to an abortion.
Here in Canada, it is starting to look like that a person's individual right overrides government function and control.
Generally, yes. The courts are too powerful, and concern themselves with the rights of individuals far too much, especially those accused in criminal trials.
The current government, I can think of a few times where they had to eat shit politically because the courts imposed something they never asked for.
But you wouldn't want a partisan court process like in the US. Those judges are 100% partisan, no pretense of objectivity, it is all just ideology and baked-in as long as the appointee is even alive.
So that's the difference. Their judges are all about politics, and ours detached so completely from it, they are completely oblivious to the public will.
As for the ISIS recruits, if anything resembling principles of justice were applied, it would look like this: all the ones (male or female) who were underage upon joining could be considered forgivable if they were now willing to renounce it, or dragged into it by fanatical parents. Maybe Canada is no place for them anymore, and but somewhere like Saudi Arabia might take them in.
But for those who as adults, knowingly left Canada to fight for the enemies of the world (including Canada), they are not soldiers in any recognized army of any real country; nor are they civilian non-combatants. Despite this they took up arms in support of mass murder and committed war crimes. So fuck mercy - the laws of war for soldiers do not apply, and they flushed their own international human rights down the shitter with mass murder, mass rape, mass torture, and the use of chemical weapons.
A smart Canadian government would have just arranged for them to quietly "disappear" into some hole in the desert.
The courts here wouldn't like it, but who fucking cares? They have no sovereignty in that part of the world. It is Syrian, Iraqi, or possibly Kurdish law that applies out there. And they are more inclined to say "those who live by the sword, die by the sword".
I believe that even if you are younger than the adult age and you make a decision (bad or good), you still have to live with it. No do overs... Reason by the time you are 12 to 14 years old you should start to be thinking of making your own decisions. Yes the law and parents have to protect the kids under legal age.
But what I don't believe is that the courts should not have the power to tell the government to bring back criminals from another country. Tax payers should not be footing the bill for this.
But what I don't believe is that the courts should not have the power to tell the government to bring back criminals from another country. Tax payers should not be footing the bill for this.
If you are concerned about extraterritoriality, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Many countries believe their laws apply wherever & whenever they want, sometimes even if none of their own citizens are even involved.
You say the courts were wrong to push the issue in this case, and maybe so, but plenty of times we're told we must uphold "universal human rights" as some sort of holy gospel of western nations, or enact sanctions upon other sovereign lands, for causes which have nothing to do with our own country's survival. How are you or any "taxpayers" going to be picky-choosy about which terrorists are a threat and which deserve a "boys will be boys" free pass no matter what they do to harm & threaten this country?
Canada does not even do this as aggressively as some others, but just look at how quick both Con and Lib governments have been to enforce sanctions that are not even in Canada's own interests.
These are not the result of consistent principles - it is simply going whichever way the wind seems to blow, following the agenda set by someone else, and if it is contradictory or hypocritical, "so be it".
Some in this country international law or human rights is a weapon to be used on others, but they are quick to make sure it is never applied to ourselves and especially not our "allies" with anything resembling consistency.
And yet at the same time, we have real terrorists here: Well armed, well funded (from abroad), ideologically committed to political violence, with a long history of attacks both attempted and carried out (lethally).
Yet they somehow never get called out as the terrorists they really are, much less end up feeling the sharp end of the "national security" sword which we taxpayers have already paid for!
Responding to "Canada is broken"
Interesting, but the problem is that Canadians see that everything is well, leave the system alone.
There is a history in Canada on why we have health care, and a social security system.
As humans we need shelter, food, water and air to survive. The big problem in Canada is that it gets cold and the long distances between cities and towns. This comes down to maintenance (heat) and infrastructure (roads, water supply, waste water, energy etc.).
Canadians also need jobs to make money. Taxes are used for infrastructures.
Looking back at the 50 & 60s, the post war boom in population and wealth for Canadians. (Based on company towns/support where companies employed people and made housing for them, gave health care and day care and other benefits to maintain employees). 70s was the oil/energy crisis and cost of high inflation. Phase out of company towns, into the 90s. In the 90s it was the dying of the autopac in Ontario (start of the world economy). Throughout the 90s companies were paying less on benefits and pension plans and that has continued on today.
So from the 90s onward was the house construction/remodeling boom. This is where the increase of house prices came from (actually its from the no capital gains on primary house) is from people flipping houses (and the constant reassesment of house values, not due to regular market issues, but the deliberate inflation of house worth through banks and assessment brokers)(scamers using legal means). The need for people to move from job to job. The house prices needed to be maintained so high, because of the large loans and the thousands of people trying to flip houses/apartments etc. The other side of this is real estate agents conspiring help inflated house prices in a "hot market" further overvaluing the price of homes. (house set at 100,000.00, real estate agent says put in bid of 105,000. Real estate agent comes back and tells you there is a bid of 109,000.00 and suggests a bid of 112,000.00, and so on until the house finally sells for 130,000.00).. Its great for the seller, and the agent who makes more on the increased price. But the new home owner has now a higher mortgage to pay, and when they finally come to sell again they are part of an increasing cyclic of house prices, that will eventually lead to paying interest only, until the next market increase in house prices. All because the people want to keep the equity in the house and the banks want to make long term interest off the mortgage.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/CAN/canada/inflation-rate-cpi
Using 80,000 (say avg price of house in 1980) 4 bedroom with basement. 4% inflation rate over 40 years. Price comes out to 385,000.00. (compound interest calculator).
So after 30 years of this happening in Hot Markets (Toronto, Vancouver), the price in way overinflated for an average house. And because of the overinflated house prices in hot markets, other markets have increased, due to flipping and the creation of "hot local markets". Compare it to the 1929 stock market crash and aftermath (the speculation of stocks and the drought of the 1930s). Loss of the autopac in the 90s and people turned to other means (flipping houses).
So young people today are looking at house prices that are astronomical, and their ability to pay off that mortgage. Yeah I say they are not happy.
Solutions:
Simple interest for home owners. (yeah fuck the banks they deserve this).
Long term transportation projects. High speed Maglev trains between cities. Transport that relies on renewable energy. Solar- electricity to run trains etc.
Better roads and planning of them. Today we did up streets to get at sewer line etc. Potholes, due to water leaking/undermining the base structure, which means the base structure was cheaply built in the first place.
A better heavy transport system. eg trains. Therefore more track will be needed. Less big rigs for cross country work.
Air ships for tourists.
Energy sharing between provinces (electricity). We have more electrical infrastructure between Canada and USA then between all the provinces. Wonder why?
Manufacture plastics. Due to the nature of the tarsands, raw supply shouldn't be a problem.
80% natural resources have to be turned into finished products here in Canada. This gives jobs to Canadians. Every time raw resources go out of Canada, we are fucking Canadians over.
Foreign Companies pay taxes in Canada for profits made by Canadian materials.
Keep everything simple.
REHASH the TAX system. Simple tax, no refunds or write offs. keeps it simple. Probally around 25%.
Redistribution of wealth?? tax any thing over 200,000/family at 30%. The rich will always find a way to recover it.
Interesting, but the problem is that Canadians see that everything is well, leave the system alone.
There is a history in Canada on why we have health care, and a social security system.
As humans we need shelter, food, water and air to survive. The big problem in Canada is that it gets cold and the long distances between cities and towns. This comes down to maintenance (heat) and infrastructure (roads, water supply, waste water, energy etc.).
Canadians also need jobs to make money. Taxes are used for infrastructures.
Looking back at the 50 & 60s, the post war boom in population and wealth for Canadians. (Based on company towns/support where companies employed people and made housing for them, gave health care and day care and other benefits to maintain employees). 70s was the oil/energy crisis and cost of high inflation. Phase out of company towns, into the 90s. In the 90s it was the dying of the autopac in Ontario (start of the world economy). Throughout the 90s companies were paying less on benefits and pension plans and that has continued on today.
So from the 90s onward was the house construction/remodeling boom. This is where the increase of house prices came from (actually its from the no capital gains on primary house) is from people flipping houses (and the constant reassesment of house values, not due to regular market issues, but the deliberate inflation of house worth through banks and assessment brokers)(scamers using legal means). The need for people to move from job to job. The house prices needed to be maintained so high, because of the large loans and the thousands of people trying to flip houses/apartments etc. The other side of this is real estate agents conspiring help inflated house prices in a "hot market" further overvaluing the price of homes. (house set at 100,000.00, real estate agent says put in bid of 105,000. Real estate agent comes back and tells you there is a bid of 109,000.00 and suggests a bid of 112,000.00, and so on until the house finally sells for 130,000.00).. Its great for the seller, and the agent who makes more on the increased price. But the new home owner has now a higher mortgage to pay, and when they finally come to sell again they are part of an increasing cyclic of house prices, that will eventually lead to paying interest only, until the next market increase in house prices. All because the people want to keep the equity in the house and the banks want to make long term interest off the mortgage.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/CAN/canada/inflation-rate-cpi
Using 80,000 (say avg price of house in 1980) 4 bedroom with basement. 4% inflation rate over 40 years. Price comes out to 385,000.00. (compound interest calculator).
So after 30 years of this happening in Hot Markets (Toronto, Vancouver), the price in way overinflated for an average house. And because of the overinflated house prices in hot markets, other markets have increased, due to flipping and the creation of "hot local markets". Compare it to the 1929 stock market crash and aftermath (the speculation of stocks and the drought of the 1930s). Loss of the autopac in the 90s and people turned to other means (flipping houses).
So young people today are looking at house prices that are astronomical, and their ability to pay off that mortgage. Yeah I say they are not happy.
Solutions:
Simple interest for home owners. (yeah fuck the banks they deserve this).
Long term transportation projects. High speed Maglev trains between cities. Transport that relies on renewable energy. Solar- electricity to run trains etc.
Better roads and planning of them. Today we did up streets to get at sewer line etc. Potholes, due to water leaking/undermining the base structure, which means the base structure was cheaply built in the first place.
A better heavy transport system. eg trains. Therefore more track will be needed. Less big rigs for cross country work.
Air ships for tourists.
Energy sharing between provinces (electricity). We have more electrical infrastructure between Canada and USA then between all the provinces. Wonder why?
Manufacture plastics. Due to the nature of the tarsands, raw supply shouldn't be a problem.
80% natural resources have to be turned into finished products here in Canada. This gives jobs to Canadians. Every time raw resources go out of Canada, we are fucking Canadians over.
Foreign Companies pay taxes in Canada for profits made by Canadian materials.
Keep everything simple.
REHASH the TAX system. Simple tax, no refunds or write offs. keeps it simple. Probally around 25%.
Redistribution of wealth?? tax any thing over 200,000/family at 30%. The rich will always find a way to recover it.
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