tall guys & short girls

[beaveraddict]

I had a strong reaction to a comment left on a recent escort review. I posted my own comment but then had second thoughts that I was hijacking the thread (a positive review of one of my favourites SPs) so I thought I'd move the conversation here.

TL: DR... do vertically challenged men have a right to be annoyed with very tall men pursuing very petite women?

In a nutshell, a guy claiming to be 6' 3" was bragging about fetishizing very petite (under 5' 2") women. My response was:

Do you realize that guys like me literally hate guys like you?

Maybe be sensitive to the fact that many short guys act-out their fantasy of being with a tall woman with an SP because it never happens in reality (or rarely). Yet that is not what tall guys pooning - let alone dating - "tiny ladies" is all about; you're actually just reinforcing your dominance & sense of entitlement and, likely, her social conditioning. At least be aware of that dynamic.

Out there in "the real world" short guys are discriminated against on dating apps, meet-ups, sports, boardrooms, etc., there's no shortage of hard science on that... not to mention the constant barrage of "micro-aggressions" and the not-so-subtle power plays in male-male interactions. Positions of power in politics & business are disproportionately held by men over 6', who have better salaries and more options in the dating pool. A man who's under 5' 8" literally has a very different life than a guy who's over 6' in many respects.

In the free market of pooning, sure, no harm no foul... but IRL tall dudes should at least leave us the petite ladies!!!

Thoughts?

 

[masterpoonhunter]

My dynamic range of women I like starts at less than 5 ft and goes up from there. Has nothing at all to do with dominance. At times yeah but its the woman dominating me. Has everything to do with how I am attracted to the woman. yeah I'm 6ft but this has nothing about me using my size to dominate. That's a pretty all encompassing and distasteful comment in my opinion. And no, no one has the right to be pissed at a guy going after a woman, regardless of height differential etc. But if so, well whatever floats your boat.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

Well the tiny gals sure do make your dick look big, guess that can make them popular as well.🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Relax10]

Situation dictates a lot of it. We can see some similarities and generalizations about height but no matter our flaws, we work with what we got. It sucks to have any kind of perceived or real disadvantage but it's the cards that are dealt. I saw someone go through this frustration. He got into a dark place and needed a lot of therapy. He gave up on women completely then an internet porn addiction almost cost him his job and his self loathing pushed him to suicidal thoughts. We jumped in with an intervention kind of late but better late then never.

Check out the article in the link below. Here are a few lines from it to make you feel better about the issue.


“Height is a nice bonus, but it’s so overrated. The truth is, a lot of tall women say they don’t date shorter guys, but if a 5’5’’ dude is cool and confident and making her giggle, she’ll forget about her so-called height rule. When it comes to dating amazing women, being a guy who’s smart, cool and funny is better than being 6’4’’ with washboard abs.”.
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"In the end though, it is not height that counts, but rather the connection and chemistry that is developed between a couple and as long as that is there, then other factors relating to physical appearance like height become far less relevant and love takes over."

https://medium.com/illumination/why-women-prefer-taller-men-46d34c321828

 

[oldshark]

I am average height and prefer smaller women. But in my case, I have a disability which makes sex with a heavy or big woman difficult.

I have seen shorter men succeed with taller women. My father was 5'2" and my mother 5'6". A good friend is 5'4" and his wife is 5'9".

But definitely society discriminates against shorter males, also in the workplace.

 

[beaveraddict]

Situation dictates a lot of it. We can see some similarities and generalizations about height but no matter our flaws, we work with what we got. It sucks to have any kind of perceived or real disadvantage but it's the cards that are dealt. I saw someone go through this frustration. He got into a dark place and needed a lot of therapy. He gave up on women completely then an internet porn addiction almost cost him his job and his self loathing pushed him to suicidal thoughts. We jumped in with an intervention kind of late but better late then never.

Check out the article in the link below. Here are a few lines from it to make you feel better about the issue.


“Height is a nice bonus, but it’s so overrated. The truth is, a lot of tall women say they don’t date shorter guys, but if a 5’5’’ dude is cool and confident and making her giggle, she’ll forget about her so-called height rule. When it comes to dating amazing women, being a guy who’s smart, cool and funny is better than being 6’4’’ with washboard abs.”.
.......................................
"In the end though, it is not height that counts, but rather the connection and chemistry that is developed between a couple and as long as that is there, then other factors relating to physical appearance like height become far less relevant and love takes over."

https://medium.com/illumination/why-women-prefer-taller-men-46d34c321828

Thanks for you thoughtful response RELAX10.

I appreciate your concerns... yes, a lot of men in the "incel" movement come to it due to their real or imagined frustrations. That's not the route I wish to explore... not all incels are short and not all short men share incel beliefs; I'd certainly like to think that I don't. I'm in my 50s, so this is obviously an issue I have had to contend with for a long time and I have certainly managed to make do with what I have!

I'm not trying to disparage women's choices here because they are subject to a lot of social conditioning; if I had a dollar for every time a woman who was half a head shorter than me told me "I prefer taller guys" or for every dating app profile stating "only men over 5' 10", I'd be a millionaire as the saying goes.

But I think MEN need to consider this issue... maybe the Will Smith thing has people taking about "toxic masculinity"? I am curious why men who have already won the genetic lottery still need to reinforce their dominance? It's like a sports team running-up the score when the game is well in hand; we regard that as unsportsmanlike. Yet society seems to accept (to the point of it being a cliché) really tall guys preferring really short women, which 'de facto' further limits the dating pool for shorter men (or tall women, for that matter).

Sure, some tall women do like short guys or simply don't care; I've had lots of girlfriends more or less my height (5' 7") and also had a few flings IRL with very tall women (5' 10" +)... however, it's one thing to fool around, I just don't see too many (yes, a few) longterm couples where there is a big height difference in the woman's favour.

Maybe another question is: why don't "some" really tall guys date tall girls?

 

[johnnydepth]

I'm 5'8", never considered myself tall or short and never really thought it had any effect on my dating life. I think my shortest girlfriend in my adult life was 4'10"and the tallest 6'2". When I'm dating someone height just doesn't matter to me... now girth is another story.

 

[PuntMeister]

WE ARE ALL THE SAME HEIGHT LAYING DOWN.

Get horizontal, and height don't matter.

There are some things I like to do with tall women, there are some things I like to fo with short women, and there’s a whole lot of fun things I like to do with all sizes. Unless I take one of them out of the SP pool, they are there for you to enjoy too, in whatever way you like. My fun has no reflection on your opportunity to have fun too, and certainly does not diminish your value as a human being.

Viva La Difference…

 

[beaveraddict]

WE ARE ALL THE SAME HEIGHT LAYING DOWN.

Get horizontal, and height don't matter.

There are some things I like to do with tall women, there are some things I like to fo with short women, and there’s a whole lot of fun things I like to do with all sizes. Unless I take one of them out of the SP pool, they are there for you to enjoy too, in whatever way you like. My fun has no reflection on your opportunity to have fun too, and certainly does not diminish your value as a human being.

Viva La Difference…

Agreed... but I think you missed the part where I limited this debate to "in real life". Within the SP pool, sure, it's fair game for everyone... but outside, it is not a level playing field.

 

[Chuckerbie]

Agreed... but I think you missed the part where I limited this debate to "in real life". Within the SP pool, sure, it's fair game for everyone... but outside, it is not a level playing field.

We were not all created equal.
I wish I had way more money.
Then I could poon with hi-end SPs.
Oh and by the way when we are horizontal there still is a physical attribute that can be measured vertically.

 

[nscamper]

Interesting topic, Beaveraddict. I'm a guy who can agree to disagree... (doesn't seem to be many people like that around lately)... I understand what you're saying, and you have every right to feel that way, but I do disagree.

It's hard enough to find someone you get along with, have chemistry with, and want to spend your time with... so why would someone limit themself based on specific heights? Out of courtesy to other men? Why would I deprive myself of my possible (oh god, don't say it, don't say it) soulmate and partner in life because of that?

First, I'd like to say that I'm not like I'm sniping short ladies in a mean spirited bid to deprive other men of them. I'm over 6ft and I my physical preference has always been for tall ladies. However, as someone said in one of the earlier posts, it all comes down to chemistry. For whatever reason, most ladies I've been with IRL have been 5'3"-5'7". It's not like i go looking for someone shorter, but that's where I've found the chemistry... and why should I feel obliged to give up happiness? It's one thing if I knew that I would be depriving a specific person of their happiness by doing this, but we really don't know that do we? If I decided not to date someone who was short based on that idea, and then I let her go for guys who are shorter, nothing says she isn't going to go and find someone as tall as me again.

I'd like to assure you that dating shorter ladies has nothing to do with dominance or fetish with me. I'm just happy I've met a nice lady and she likes me back, regardless of her height or my height. When I make a decision to date someone, other men have absolutely nothing to do with the decision regardless of their height, her height, or my height. It simply never enters my mind.

(Just a few rambling thoughts... sorry I don't have time to polish this post and refine it a bit. I'm sure you'll have something to say about that last comment.)

 

[beaveraddict]

yeah I'm 6ft but this has nothing about me using my size to dominate.

I'm over 6ft ... I'd like to assure you that dating shorter ladies has nothing to do with dominance or fetish with me.

Hmm, there seems to be a pattern here and I'll take responsibility for not being clearer.

Firstly, the word "dominance" was not meant in the BDSM context, it was meant in the context of social interactions.

Secondly, and I do mean this lightheartedly, but a couple of 6-footers weighing-in about how "height doesn't matter" is kinda like a white man wondering "why are all these black people and women always whining about "privilege"?" Respectfully, you just don't know, or at least not to the same extent, what it means to be short in our society.

I do appreciate that there is a lot of randomness regarding who we experience chemistry with and end-up in partnerships or "serious" relationships... and there are definitely cultural differences about what is perceived to be "a good catch", etc. So, no, I am not suggesting that you decline to date someone with whom you experience a real connection if she is petite just to allow a shorter man an opportunity!!! Maybe my point was too subtle because these absurd examples are not helping to elaborate the debate.

My point is that there ARE deeper dynamics at work.

Again, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to most women in this equation because of their social conditioning (that's a bigger ship to steer and I doubt that there are a lot of civilian women here anyway, although I'd luv to hear from any of the SPs eavesdropping)... but tall dudes are a lot more clear-eyed than they pretend to be IMHO.

I return to the analogy of the sports team running up the score even through the game is well in hand... or a big guy picking on a small guy... most people would agree neither situation is sporting or fair. In the dating game, tall dudes have more options than short dudes... so why is that any different?

 

[RalphiEboy]

I had a strong reaction to a comment left on a recent escort review. I posted my own comment but then had second thoughts that I was hijacking the thread (a positive review of one of my favourites SPs) so I thought I'd move the conversation here.

TL: DR... do vertically challenged men have a right to be annoyed with very tall men pursuing very petite women?

In a nutshell, a guy claiming to be 6' 3" was bragging about fetishizing very petite (under 5' 2") women. My response was:

Do you realize that guys like me literally hate guys like you?

Maybe be sensitive to the fact that many short guys act-out their fantasy of being with a tall woman with an SP because it never happens in reality (or rarely). Yet that is not what tall guys pooning - let alone dating - "tiny ladies" is all about; you're actually just reinforcing your dominance & sense of entitlement and, likely, her social conditioning. At least be aware of that dynamic.

Out there in "the real world" short guys are discriminated against on dating apps, meet-ups, sports, boardrooms, etc., there's no shortage of hard science on that... not to mention the constant barrage of "micro-aggressions" and the not-so-subtle power plays in male-male interactions. Positions of power in politics & business are disproportionately held by men over 6', who have better salaries and more options in the dating pool. A man who's under 5' 8" literally has a very different life than a guy who's over 6' in many respects.

In the free market of pooning, sure, no harm no foul... but IRL tall dudes should at least leave us the petite ladies!!!

Thoughts?

Gee! Us taller gents are at a real disadvantage. All human hearts 🫀 are the same size so ours work a lot harder. I love ❤ all ladies of all sizes, shapes and colours if they’re nice 😊 to me…

 

[dickdoes]

If she is a foot taller than I am then I don’t have to bend over to suck her juicy pert firm nipples.

 

[Forum mod]

That's quite enough of this.