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The difference is that “toxic feminists” don’t brag about raping men, sexually assaulting men, degrading men as objects, or beating the shit out of men.
Yeah, we just complain about how much we hate men who do that. And men who joke about rape. Not the same at all.
 
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Yeah, toxic masculinity is rampart. What do you say when you hear it?
Usually a sharp “HEY!! Cut that shit out!” They know what they’re saying; the silent majority empowers it and their lapdogs further strengthen their belief it’s ok. It sometimes only takes one voice change what’s acceptable to many.
 

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Usually a sharp “HEY!! Cut that shit out!” They know what they’re saying; the silent majority empowers it and their lapdogs further strengthen their belief it’s ok. It sometimes only takes one voice change what’s acceptable to many.
Why is it my responsibility? If they know what they’re saying, they shouldn’t say it. The voice should be another man, not mine.
 

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That wasn’t OK to say and OP is in the right to feel the way she did.

As to “toxic masculinity“, that’s a bigoted term to me. It doesn’t mean anything and it’s a blank canvas for misandry. It doesn’t really bother me to hear it used, I just think less of the person saying it. I was at a group meeting once and another guy talked about how he learned about toxic masculinity and blah blah blah. When he was done, with his feminist rant, I said I’m the opposite of him and a toxic male. I drive a truck, I like hunting, I like motorbikes, I lift weights and I like watching fighting and I’m not going to apologize for it. Men and women are different and there is nothing wrong with men and women being different. Men don’t need to be defective females and women don’t need to be defective males.
 

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That wasn’t OK to say and OP is in the right to feel the way she did.

As to “toxic masculinity“, that’s a bigoted term to me. It doesn’t mean anything and it’s a blank canvas for misandry. It doesn’t really bother me to hear it used, I just think less of the person saying it. I was at a group meeting once and another guy talked about how he learned about toxic masculinity and blah blah blah. When he was done, with his feminist rant, I said I’m the opposite of him and a toxic male. I drive a truck, I like hunting, I like motorbikes, I lift weights and I like watching fighting and I’m not going to apologize for it. Men and women are different and there is nothing wrong with men and women being different. Men don’t need to be defective females and women don’t need to be defective males.
None of those things are toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity is spewing paragraphs about how you don’t like the term “toxic masculinity” on a thread about how a client joked about raping me. See what I mean? You’re making this about you. That’s toxic masculinity. You’re right, you are a toxic man 🤷🏼‍♀️ good for you. Your name is even “dangerousdan”. At least you come with a warning, I guess. You aren’t welcome to book with me.
 

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Yeah, we just complain about how much we hate men who do that. And men who joke about rape. Not the same at all.
My response was poorly worded. I meant feminists DO NOT do the shit that toxic men do.
 
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That wasn’t OK to say and OP is in the right to feel the way she did.

As to “toxic masculinity“, that’s a bigoted term to me. It doesn’t mean anything and it’s a blank canvas for misandry. It doesn’t really bother me to hear it used, I just think less of the person saying it. I was at a group meeting once and another guy talked about how he learned about toxic masculinity and blah blah blah. When he was done, with his feminist rant, I said I’m the opposite of him and a toxic male. I drive a truck, I like hunting, I like motorbikes, I lift weights and I like watching fighting and I’m not going to apologize for it. Men and women are different and there is nothing wrong with men and women being different. Men don’t need to be defective females and women don’t need to be defective males.
Why do you categorize motorbikes, weight lifting, watching fights, driving a truck as male attributes? I know women who are into those things. If you don’t like the term toxic masculinity, I’ll just say stop spreading bullshit.
 

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Fuck this thread is making me cringe. Why would a guy joke about sexually assaulting somebody who was a victim of sexual assault????? Why the fuck would anybody else try to turn it into a discussion??? This is NOT OK! Charlee, I feel for you and I hope it didn't bring back any unpleasant memories or trigger points for you. Enough said, virtual hug to you.
 

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I drive a truck, I like hunting, I like motorbikes, I lift weights and I like watching fighting and I’m not going to apologize for it.
Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself?
Women do all those things. Some might do them better than you.
None of them make you manly.
Lacking self confidence is not very manly.
 
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