Tipping

[Dadb0d]

See my issue is I have no idea what to tip.. I have no problem tipping this certain provider as she gives outstanding service. I just don't want to be what I tip an insult as I don't know if it should be a certain amount/percentage.

 

[AlbertaBill]

See my issue is I have no idea what to tip.. I have no problem tipping this certain provider as she gives outstanding service. I just don't want to be what I tip an insult as I don't know if it should be a certain amount/percentage.

Victoria mayhem summarized it best for me, that she makes an outrageous amount of money servicing, while having fun, with old guys like. Me

You may recall that every Xmas she would match your donation to give to the homeless. Fucking for a good cause!

We all know the girls don’t work 40 hrs a week at XXX$ per hour. But certainly 10. And Lucy’s comments on paying taxes etc to have a good credit rating may apply to the massage business, but for escorts they are buying their condos in cash.

Anyway, we all tip as we pleas.

 

[pussy lover]

Victoria mayhem summarized it best for me, that she makes an outrageous amount of money servicing, while having fun, with old guys like. Me

You may recall that every Xmas she would match your donation to give to the homeless. Fucking for a good cause!

We all know the girls don’t work 40 hrs a week at XXX$ per hour. But certainly 10. And Lucy’s comments on paying taxes etc to have a good credit rating may apply to the massage business, but for escorts they are buying their condos in cash.

Anyway, we all tip as we pleas.

Well said. A MP told me she clears 10 g a month and buys her condo and new car cash. A friend of mine also dated a Sp . She bought a new Jeep, went to Korea to get lots of plastic surgery to make her even more attractive, buys her car cash , and now has opened up a legit premium spa with rmt’s and other health professionals. Tip what you want. Any tip would be appreciated . Unless the tip is a predefined amount for a certain extra, then you have to at least “ tip “ that amount .

 

[davetoo]

Ya I know in my job if I had a 50 buck cash tip in my pocket after work. First thing I would be doing is racing home to report with all respect to Justin Trudeau and his revenue department.....

This thread was about tip’s, gentlemen are on the most part very generous if there is chemistry, and it’s within there budget.

For humour : you should have seen the size of tip I gave to my spouse last time I gave her my money !! Lol

 

[KAM369]

Plenty of us do pay taxes, pretty hard to get a mortgage or anything without claiming income... I'd be really surprised if there any girls who don't claim any of their income, pretty easy to get busted by CRA that way... 🤔

Personally I've found people to be very generous, many people tip up front which is really helpful cuz if we're getting to the end of our time and they're not done then I'm not going to call it, I just go over time and if they say anything I say well you already tipped me so we're square.

I'm also more likely to accept their booking when I'm near closing time, and if they're a really big tipper I consider seeing them on weekend or late evenings, not always doable but if it is I'm more likely to go the extra mile for them. ☺

I especially appreciate tips when people use the POS machine, as it offsets the fees I get charged. 🙏😍

The reason I offer snacks and drinks is because everyone is generally generous and kind and I want to show my appreciation and return the favor. 😉🥰

Many MPS are part time with a legit job,one I know well just laughed when I asked about taxes for her massage work. I doubt one provider reports all her income so I only tip for great service, it's best to find a good regular and treat her well...it's more than 2 days of my net income for 1 hour with top indy escort rates

 

[dattyspecialist]

I think you're making the mistaken assumption that it's $300/hour and a 40 hour week, when it reality it's $300/hour and far less than a 40 hour week. I'm sure there are exceptions but I doubt many girls in town are making 500K+ a year just from escorting.

I think you're also making the mistaken assumption that an hour is just the hour with the client and not considering travel (if outcall) or prep time to make themselves presentable, etc.

I think you are making a mistake by making assumptions about what I assume.

The top tax bracket in bc is$222,420 which is taxed at 53.3%. Take an sp at the lower end of the pay scale, $150/h after overhead, they'd hit that amount working 33 1-hour sessions per week working 10 months of the year.

I usually go to SVIP or IF. They probably keep at minimum 200 per 1 h session, but shorter sessions being more, extras, they likely average 300-400/h with client, so they can hit that top bracket by doing only 10-15 1h-sessions per week.

Even if they pay taxes like the rest of us, they'll still be in the top 5% earners in Canada, working much fewer hours than the vast majority of people, so I don't think anyone should be made to feel guilty for not tipping, or be made to feel like they're not generous for not tipping.

 

[LucysMassage]

I think you are making a mistake by making assumptions about what I assume.

The top tax bracket in bc is$222,420 which is taxed at 53.3%. Take an sp at the lower end of the pay scale, $150/h after overhead, they'd hit that amount working 33 1-hour sessions per week working 10 months of the year.

I usually go to SVIP or IF. They probably keep at minimum 200 per 1 h session, but shorter sessions being more, extras, they likely average 300-400/h with client, so they can hit that top bracket by doing only 10-15 1h-sessions per week.

Even if they pay taxes like the rest of us, they'll still be in the top 5% earners in Canada, working much fewer hours than the vast majority of people, so I don't think anyone should be made to feel guilty for not tipping, or be made to feel like they're not generous for not tipping.

33 1 hour sessions a week???? So you think most providers see 6 clients a day??? In an 8 hour shift?? Or taking home $300-400 per client AFTER agency fees ie 10-15 sessions per week?

Too many assumptions here... All at the extreme high end scenario...

I just do massage but I need minimum 30 minutes between clients just to shower, change bedding, clean and touch up my hair and makeup... Not including a coffee break or replying to messages. (Hence I leave a full hour between.)

Throughout the eons on perb people have tried to assume and estimate SP wages and it's never logical or accurate, their actual incomes can vary widely, so its therefore a waste of time to speculate....

PS I don't think anyone is being "made to feel guilty or not generous if they don't tip..." Everyone is just saying when and why THEY do tip... Nobody is saying you should feel obligated so justifying not tipping because you feel they make x amount isn't necessary. Unless you are saying that you would tip a part time SP because she IS in a lower tax bracket and not only for exemplary service?

 

[dattyspecialist]

33 1 hour sessions a week???? So you think most providers see 6 clients a day??? In an 8 hour shift?? Or taking home $300-400 per client AFTER agency fees ie 10-15 sessions per week?

Too many assumptions here... All at the extreme high end scenario...

I just do massage but I need minimum 30 minutes between clients just to shower, change bedding, clean and touch up my hair and makeup... Not including a coffee break or replying to messages. (Hence I leave a full hour between.)

Throughout the eons on perb people have tried to assume and estimate SP wages and it's never logical or accurate, their actual incomes can vary widely, so its therefore a waste of time to speculate....

PS I don't think anyone is being "made to feel guilty or not generous if they don't tip..." Everyone is just saying when and why THEY do tip... Nobody is saying you should feel obligated so justifying not tipping because you feel they make x amount isn't necessary. Unless you are saying that you would tip a part time SP because she IS in a lower tax bracket and not only for exemplary service?

You're right, you are making too many assumptions here.

I didn't say most providers make that much. Someone stated that getting paid cash meant a potential 20% tax savings, and I pointed out that at the $200/h earning rate being discussed in prior posts, they would be in higher tax bracket than 20%. Anyone, who makes more than $800 in one week would be.

Someone than accused me assuming I though girls work 40h a week, which I never said, and that they make 500K which I also never said. Thus, I pointed out that the top tax bracket is only 220K, and in fact to be in the tax bracket to be taxed at the 45% I said comes in at 150K. I just did the math to show that you can achieve those brackets without having to work 40hours, and without having to make 400/h, to show that my statements did not reflect the assumptions I was accused of making.

I never said that most girls work x amount. I also never said all girls don't pay taxes. I specifically said that even working less and PAYING their taxes, they would still be some of the highest paid individuals in Canada, because if you earn 129K BEFORE taxes, you are in the top 5% income earners in Canada.

I realize there are providers out there who don't earn $200 for a 1 h session; but that amount is certainly not an extreme example as you say, given that the girls discussed here are usually from one of the agencies or well established Indy's. 1h GFE at IF is $390, 1h GFE with well reviewed Indy is $400, and they are the girls that are commonly discussed here.

The guys who said they don't tip were specifically referencing these higher paid SPs. They specifically mentioned that just like they don't tip their lawyers because they bill $200/h, they also don't tip the high end sp's they see because they are professionals, charging rates of professionals; and not minimum wage earners, whose bosses are not paying the salary they should, because they want them to make a living from their tips. Your lawyer, dentist, accountant, and other professionals whose services you use, and who usually don't receive tips, yet they also have overhead, unpaid down time, commutes, and taxes etc.

I'm not saying don't tip; but I also don't feel you have to pay extra, before the session starts and you know it was even any good, sometime first time you meet some one, just to show that you're generous guy, like some of the posts of those who tip have said they do. Or tip even if the service wasn't great.

 

[davetoo]

cash in pocket is tax free, period....the more the better
guys are much more desired because they tip much more. ask any MP who they prefer.
as for ripping the gov. Justin Trudeau is the king of money laundering, corruption in Canada... oh ya, "I"m sorry Justin"
as he travels around on his Lear Jet, making a quick phone call from, there now its gov. business trip...... again I'm Sorry

 

[Taylor007]

I'd be really surprised if there any girls who don't claim any of their income, pretty easy to get busted by CRA that way

You think every sp claims their income? 🤦‍♂️ That's the funniest thing I've heard today!

And I only said today because I heard some pretty funny shit yesterday and didn't want to exaggerate.

 

[Twigs and berries]

Usually when they post cash only is a sign if they claim any income. I dont blame them for liking a tip on top of what they post for hourly rate. More money the better in anyone's eyes. Tip if you wish or not. For me t has never reflected the service I received. Always happy it's not like I'm eating and running lol. Have fun with whoever you decide to choose and give your money to.

 

[pussy lover]

I just saw a viral TikTok thread where a hooters girl said she makes about 1200 to 1300 in tips a week. But her hourly salary is only 2.13.
I agree that if a indie or business says cash only , its likely that not all income is reported. A local MP charges gst for email transfers bc that income is now traceable and reportable.

 

[RobBC]

So I think this thread has strayed from the original question into discussions about whether or not SP's pay taxes/report their income/etc.

Can we all agree that SP's are well compensated for their time, that tips are "bonus" (not required) and get back to the original topic of do you tip and if you tip how much, how often, etc?

 

[AlbertaBill]

Well said!

 

[davetoo]

Put the man in the fun side of moody, and he will put out. As was discussed with a high ranking perb member, we both had gracefully tipped this one provider, lots. She is a hidden gem, low hourly rate, but can be a hoot.... hence, I gave her a single brown once for hourly rate and tip. This equaled 150% tip.... laughing out loud, I left smiling all the way to the bank machine to load up, for the next interlude.....

 

[LucysMassage]

You think every sp claims their income? 🤦‍♂️ That's the funniest thing I've heard today!

Yes I think any money anybody puts in the bank becomes traceable by the CRA, and many things can no longer be paid in cash... such as utility bills, credit card bills, Amazon purchases etc. Years ago I used to pay rent etc in cash to lower my reported income but I was never stupid enough to claim no income. Even my pot guy claims some income... 😄

 

[Cumalittlecloser]

Do a lot of you tip? If so what's the going rate?

I almost always tip up front. And it's enough to be noticed and sometimes questioned. "You know you gave me too much." "Yes." My thought process is that tipping up front can assure not only good service, but perhaps better service, what ever that may look like. And I never see someone I suspect might not provide great service to begin with.

 

[80watts]

The lawyer always wins. Despite have a clear cut case, the lawyers fee could easily add up to you winnings or more. Vancouver lawyers are up to 400 to 500 Per hour. I had one that did not respond to 3 calls and 3 emails over a 2 week period. The result? He billed me for listening to each voice mail and reading the emails. Billing was at min 15 mins each. Each voice and email merely stated “ I have not heard for you for awhile, can I please get an update “ No reply…but yay! 15 mins billed . Let’s do that 6 more times and make a free 6 hrs labour . So who won? The lawyer did. Would I tip him ? No .

Bend over again.... getting fucked by a lawyer with no satisfaction.... fiqures...

 

[80watts]

Put the man in the fun side of moody, and he will put out. As was discussed with a high ranking perb member, we both had gracefully tipped this one provider, lots. She is a hidden gem, low hourly rate, but can be a hoot.... hence, I gave her a single brown once for hourly rate and tip. This equaled 150% tip.... laughing out loud, I left smiling all the way to the bank machine to load up, for the next interlude.....

Have to do some math here....
Let X = tip ; Let y = hourly rate
Therefore:
X + Y = $100.00 -----------------------------and 1.5Y = X ( -X + 1.5Y = 0); an 150% tip would be 1.5 times hourly rate as stated above.
-X + 1.5Y = 0
--------------------------------
2.5Y = $100.00 (Adding the 2 equations)

Y = $40.00
and X = $60.00

The hourly rate and tip = $100.00

Now people will want to know the provider who only charges 40.00 an hour.....

 

[davetoo]

Have to do some math here....
Let X = tip ; Let y = hourly rate
Therefore:
X + Y = $100.00 -----------------------------and 1.5Y = X ( -X + 1.5Y = 0); an 150% tip would be 1.5 times hourly rate as stated above.
-X + 1.5Y = 0
--------------------------------
2.5Y = $100.00 (Adding the 2 equations)

Y = $40.00
and X = $60.00

The hourly rate and tip = $100.00

Now people will want to know the provider who only charges 40.00 an hour.....

But, you are the laughing stock. Check your local listings and you will actually find her...
well known and positive reviews...also lots of fun... so, rocks in a glass house does apply here